WEBCO

I see the regressives and liberals destroying my country. You must be really bored to try and follow a foreign countries politics. I could care less about Canadian politics. Seems you're dealing with a regressive woke PM who's controlled by the WEF and their agenda. You might want to spend more time trying to save your country.

microphor Loc: Home is TN

Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON

Who appointed you the judge of who is and who isn't a patriot?
You should get out more, take a look around, the divisions in our country are not just two political parties vying for power.

The E******n Ignorance of Judge J. Michael Luttig
A J****** 6 statement that appalls.

by Jeffrey Lord

It is amazing what the effect of dissent from Establishment gospel induces in presumably otherwise sensible adult Americans.

The latest in this craziness on parade comes from retired federal Judge J. Michael Luttig. A George H. W. Bush appointee to the Fourth Circuit, the retired judge, with a heretofore sterling reputation, presented a statement to the corrupt J****** 6 C*******e that was a shining example of either outright ignorance or Establishment contempt for democracy and those millions of Americans who believe the Establishment has corrupted our nation’s most treasured institutions.

Judge Luttig begins by saying this:

A stake was driven through the heart of American democracy on J****** 6, 2021, and our democracy today is on a knife’s edge.

America was at war on that fateful day, but not against a foreign power. She was at war against herself. We Americans were at war with each other — over our democracy. J****** 6 was but the next, foreseeable battle in a war that had been raging in America for years, though that day was the most consequential battle of that war even to date.

In fact, J****** 6 was a separate war unto itself, a war for America’s democracy, a war irresponsibly instigated and prosecuted by the former president, his political party allies, and his supporters. Both wars are raging to this day.

Hello? Where was Judge Luttig after the 2016 e******n, when the Establishment in its many institutions refused to accept the legitimacy of Donald Trump’s e******n victory?

Where was Judge Luttig when the Democratic Party and its Establishment allies in the media launched the Trump-Russia collusion h**x? A h**x invented, paid for, and signed off on, as we have learned from the recent testimony of her campaign manager, by Hillary Clinton herself?

Where was Judge Luttig when l*****t mobs r**ted in the streets after Trump’s e******n and on the day of his inauguration?

Next up Judge Luttig simply lies about the events of J****** 6. He says this:

Called to Washington D.C. that day by the president, the president himself, and the president’s followers, supporters, and allies gathered near The White House for a “Stop the Steal” rally. The president maintained at that rally that the 2020 p**********l e******n had been “fraudulently stolen” from him. The president addressed his faithful followers thus: “We’re going to the Capitol…. We’re going to try and give them [the Republicans in the Congress, presumably] the kind of p***e and boldness that they need to take back our country…. We will never give up. We will never concede.”

Inflamed, the gathered mob marched up the hill from The White House to the United States Capitol to protest, disrupt and prevent the counting of the e*******l v**es for the presidency, which the president falsely charged were wrongly about to be counted by the Congress in his political opponent’s winning favor and in his own losing favor.

To be blunt: This is 100 percent bunk.

As I have noted in this space before, I personally was at that White House rally, with a literal front-row seat. I heard the president’s speech from beginning to end. Note well, Judge Luttig never notes that the president specifically said to the crowd to go and “peacefully and patriotically make your voices heard.”

In fact, not only did that part of the president’s speech not make Judge Luttig’s statement, it was, as Ohio’s Republican Congressman Jim Jordan has noted, also edited out of the committee’s video of that event. Imagine that.

I did not go to the Capitol but returned to my hotel room to do a television interview and a Zoom call with a Pennsylvania newspaper. But at no time was anyone in my vicinity at the White House rally — which included thousands of people — suggesting anything close to violence. In fact, people were dancing to the rock music blaring through the loudspeaker. But that doesn’t make it into the judge’s statement. He has swallowed liberal media garbage about that rally hook, line, and sinker.

It is worth noting that even MSNBC’s Rachel Maddow didn’t swallow this nonsense. Said Rachel to fellow host Chris Hayes recently:

Just a key point, that yes, there was a pro-Trump rally at which the president spoke. And we can absolutely talk about all the things the president said there.

But the idea that that rally is the thing that got out of hand and that somehow resulted in the breaching of the capitol — That rally was very far from the capitol and the people who, as you say, did the initial breach, that allowed everybody else to come in, they never even went to that rally.

Bingo.

Judge Luttig also says that Trump “had lost fair and square and as to which there was not then, and there is not to this day, evidence of fraud.”

No evidence of fraud? Seriously?

As I have said previously, anyone who believes such a bald unt***h owes it to themselves to read investigative reporter Mollie Hemingway’s R****d: How the Media, Big Tech, and the Democrats Seized Our E******ns.

As I noted, Mollie uses exhaustive detail to document that “there are abundant reasons to suspect the e******n was r****d at every step”:

Those “abundant reasons to suspect the e******n was r****d at every step” include the following 2020 events just from my home state of Pennsylvania alone:

The Trump campaign in Philadelphia, per a Commonwealth Court judge, was deprived of its “statutory right to have poll watchers present at places where e*****rs cast and submit v**es in person” and in “unparalleled” numbers.

B****t harvesting is not allowed in Pennsylvania. Yet Philadelphia allowed it. The notoriously partisan Democrat Attorney General Josh Shapiro — now the Democrats’ nominee for governor in the 2022 e******n — said that objecting to b****t harvesting was now suddenly “illegal v**er intimidation.”

The Democrat Pennsylvania Supreme Court ruled the “Democrats in Philadelphia did not have to allow the Trump campaign any observation of the v**e counting.”

“The Trump campaign had a legal right to observers within a reasonable distance from the counting,” Mollie writes. “Why did e******n officials in overwhelmingly Democratic Philadelphia go out of their way to deprive the campaign of that right?”

Since Judge Luttig has chosen to jump into this discussion in this way, he has revealed that he is either willfully or unintentionally abysmally ignorant about my home state’s abysmal history of v***r f***d that goes way beyond 2020.

As I have documented here, Pennsylvania e******ns in 1994, 2008, 2012, 2014, 2015, and 2016, all had v***r f***d. As a retired federal judge, Judge Luttig should have been aware of this New York Times story from 1994 that, speaking about a then-sitting federal judge in Philadelphia, said this:

Saying Philadelphia’s e******n system had collapsed under “a massive scheme” by Democrats to steal a State Senate e******n in November, a Federal judge today took the rare step of invalidating the v**e and ordered the seat filled by the Republican candidate.…

Judge Newcomer ruled that the Democratic campaign of William G. Stinson had s****n the e******n from Bruce S. Marks in North Philadelphia’s Second Senatorial District through an elaborate fraud in which hundreds of residents were encouraged to v**e by absentee b****t even though they had no legal reason — like a physical disability or a scheduled trip outside the city — to do so.

And, as Judge Luttig should be aware, just days ago this headline came out of the Department of Justice:

Former U.S. Congressman and Philadelphia Political Operative Pleads Guilty to E******n F***d Charges.

With all of this on the record, I can hardly believe that someone as highly regarded as Judge Luttig would make this kind of statement to the J****** 6 C*******e, a committee that is itself nothing more than a corrupt lynch mob designed by Speaker Nancy Pelosi to do one thing and one thing only: smear Donald Trump.

There are only two possible answers. Either Judge Luttig is ignorant of the facts, or he believes that the Establishment’s war on millions of Americans who disagree with them is justified.

And if democracy dies as a result? He’s signing on for it.[/i]

Elrond51 Loc: New Mexico

I know the party is not entirely made up of that group, any more than the Democratic party is made up of radicals. However, they are the visible, vocal part and get the attention. Plus neither party is doing anything to curtail their activity. The Republican party seems to be embracing the radical right. Similarly B*M and a****a people get lots of attention. I will wager that very few a****a people are actually Democrats, they typically are anarchists and don't join either. Can't say about B*M, since I just don't know.
I wasn't aware that Democrats were destroying women's center - I know that where I live it is conservatives that are messing with those.
I no longer attend ralleys or concerts. My spouse has neurological issues that make it impossible to be in any crowds - however did for years - both Republican and Democratic ralleys. Met people of all ages, and all were concerned for our country and the future.

slatten49 Loc: Lake Whitney, Texas

Blade, I never doubted that you or someone could find a counter-article on Judge Luttig. Yet, his impeccable resume and credentials speak volumes against the whimpers of resistance to his testified t***hs. BTW, short of slander and libel...one's opinion in judging another is a right/entitlement all Americans have.

Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON

So you are not just the Judge of patriotism, you are also the arbiter of t***h.

There is no such thing as a politician or a judge with an "impeccable resume and creds".

Take your blinders off, slat, get real, for crying out loud, and look closely at the disaster your party has created.
Consider the consequences.

The Democrats' Road to Hell
By Tim Jones

The ruling political class in Washington D.C. is always making matters worse through what appear to be appropriate solutions for serious problems facing the country. Then when they don't work out as advertised many years after they've been implemented, they tell us that they've got the solutions for the newer, more serious problems that to the unsuspecting and unknowing public seem as if they came out of nowhere, and who are clueless as to how they began in the first place.

Two good examples of the long reach of history and major problems originating with Washington are one, how a permanent underclass that exists today was created during the 60s by Lyndon Johnson's Great Society programs and the other, the Great Recession that began in 2008 when the country's financial system melted down and in turn created the worst financial collapse since the Great Depression that began in 1929.

It was Daniel Patrick Moynihan, one of the last great Democrats before the party became unmoored from any roots it had in traditional constitutional principles, sounded the alarm as Assistant Secretary of Labor in the Johnson administration that the new welfare state was creating an abundance of unintended consequences that were destructive to b****s, the primary demographic whom it was supposed to help. He came out with his "controversial" Moynihan Report in 1965 officially titled “The Negro Family: The Case for National Action,” that described those destructive consequences and how they started, the most significant one being the breakdown of the black family because of the perverse incentives created by welfare that was actually making poverty worse and creating a permanent underclass.

The origins of the financial crisis of 2007/2008 can be traced back to Jimmy Carter's administration (another well-intentioned but misguided Democrat president) with the passage of the Community Reinvestment Act (CRA) of 1977. Like Johnson's welfare programs, the CRA was supposed to benefit primarily low-income b****s, it turned out to be the big bang event that led to wickedly destructive financial consequences for everyone many decades later. The original purpose of the CRA was to loosen lending standards by banks so that more b****s could participate in the American Dream by being able to buy a house and to overcome what at the time was called "redlining," an allegedly discriminatory practice by banks making it difficult for b****s to buy a home in non-urban neighborhoods.

Fast-forward to 1999, the last year Bill Clinton was in office as president, when on a bipartisan basis you had the wall between commercial and investment banking torn down with the repeal of the Glass-Steagall Act of 1933. This allowed all the high-powered investment banks to bundle and securitize all of the mortgage loans from across the country into asset-back securities called Collateralized Debt Obligations (CDO). With the low interest rates down to almost zero following 9/11 by the Bush Administration, the housing market took off like a rocket for the next six years helped along with a great deal more loosening and degradation of mortgage loan standards by banks as required by Congress that began in 1977 with the passage of the Community Reinvestment Act.

Unfortunately, a trillion-dollar market for specialized investments turned out to be a house of cards built on sand constructed out of the housing boom’s easy-to-get home mortgages. Many were extremely risky loans (called subprime mortgages) and were doomed to foreclosure. And all the new CDOs with exotic names such as synthetic CDO, Mortgage-backed Securities and Credit Default Swaps crashed within weeks, bringing down the world economy with them.

The moral of these two stories is that government should stay out of the social engineering business, as history has proven time and time again that it has a terrible track record and usually makes matters worse either in the short term or the long term or both. The rhetoric rarely matches up with the intended reality of social policy objectives and instead policy prescriptions most often end up being weaponized to bludgeon the Republicans for being cruel and heartless for not always going along with the Democrats.

Government assistance has morphed from safety net to entitlement where there is no accountability for the failures of the ruling political class that perpetually creates problems, as well as government incentives to "right social wrongs" that do the same by distorting the marketplace in ways that are not good for anyone.

So as the sun always comes up in the morning, the ruling political class will always present itself as the savior to all those unknowingly and adversely affected by problems it created in the first place. The road to hell is indeed paved with good intentions, but in America, that's okay with many, since the perpetrators will always be rewarded with re-e******n again and again in an endless and hellish vicious cycle.

slatten49 Loc: Lake Whitney, Texas

The American Stinker, eh

Not surprising that you would turn to such a source. However, the article had some good points. Yet....

From Wikipedia: American Thinker is a daily online magazine dealing with American politics from a politically conservative viewpoint. It was founded in 2003 by attorney Ed Lasky, health-care consultant Richard Baehr, and sociologist Thomas Lifson, and initially became prominent in the lead-up to the 2008 U.S. P**********l e******n for its attacks on then-candidate Barack Obama. The magazine has been described as a conservative blog. The Southern Poverty Law Center has called the site "a not so thoughtful far-right online publication."

In the aftermath of Donald Trump's loss in the 2020 U.S. P**********l e******n, the American Thinker promoted a variety of false conspiracy theories and claims of e******n f***d as part of the Republican Party's attempt to overturn the e******n result. Faced with a lawsuit from D******n V****g Systems, Lifson acknowledged that the site had relied upon "discredited sources who have peddled debunked theories". The American Thinker likewise admitted that its e******n claims were "completely false and have no basis in fact" and that "it was wrong for us to publish these false statements." Kudos to them for that admission.

Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON

American Thinker is a conservative clearing house for over 3000 contributors, including lawyers, doctors, medical researchers, military officers, historians, teachers, university professors, students, independent and investigative journalists, scientists, businessmen and women, CEOs, philosophers, TV and radio personalities, political strategists, foreign policy experts, senators and reps, clergymen, Rabbis, priests, and Imams, and more, in addition to foreign contributors in many countries around the globe.

And, you're gonna hang your argument on one man's opinion?

Whether you accept this or not, these people have every right to speak their minds.
Lots of POVs, lots of perspectives, but t***h seekers none the less.
You're not gonna dismiss these people so handily, slat, get over yourself.

microphor Loc: Home is TN

Conservatives tend to be pro life, why would they destroy pregnancy centers?

"Jane's Revenge is an American far-left militant organization, which has perpetrated and threatened domestic terror attacks in the name of defending a******n rights. The group has committed acts of firebombing, vandalism, and arson. The group was formed in 2022 in response to the leak of a possible Supreme Court ruling overturning Roe v. Wade."

slatten49 Loc: Lake Whitney, Texas

[quote=Blade_Runner] "And, you're gon'na hang your argument on one man's opinion?"

Actually, Blade, no. I'm h*****g my arguments on the t***h of what many Americans believe with regard to Trump and his sycophantic cult: He's a con-man, a chronic sociopathic liar and grifter. They, in step, follow suit. If you don't see and understand that...then, you simply haven't been paying attention.

https://historynewsnetwork.org/article/165404

Take your blinders off, Blade...get real for crying out loud and look closely at the disaster Trump and his followers have created. You and others should truly consider the consequences.

Elrond51 Loc: New Mexico

My bad. Did not do my usual research. I don't agree with nor condone violence from either side.

microphor Loc: Home is TN

[quote=slatten49]

You mean like the Democrats who altered documents in order to prevent and/or unseat a president because it wasn't what they wanted-that kind of lies? That kind of con? That kind of grifter?

microphor Loc: Home is TN

I agree 100%.

LogicallyRight Loc: Chicago

If michael-luttig was really a judge, i'm sure glad I never appeared before him. His judgment is lacking.
***"A stake was driven through the heart of American democracy on J****** 6, 2021, and our democracy today is on a knife's edge.
>>>Proof? There were problems people on that day. Some agitators from the right, and some agitators from the left and some government agitators. And a whole lot of patriotic Americans in Washington to celebrate their president, Donald Trump.
They believed in the Big Lie. At least the l*****ts and government plants did. That the e******n was clean and not fraudulent. The rest believed in the t***h, that that e******n was the biggest Fraud ever perpetrated on the American people. And more and more proof is coming out. Like 2000 Mules.

***"In fact, J****** 6 was a separate war unto itself, a war for America's democracy, a war irresponsibly instigated and prosecuted by the former president, his political party allies, and his supporters.
>>>"In fact, J****** 6 was a war unto itself. Patriots starting to show their grit against the c*******t/democrats, (and not all are. Some are damn fine people roped into the insanity of these l*****ts like they are trying to do to the right, by force or fraud) in a war for America's democracy. Something that our former President was trying to warn us about, even above the constant shouts of the likes of pelosi, sanders and schumer and a bunch of other anti-Americans.

Liberty Tree, You got it right ***The J6 c*******e is a threat to democracy.

RascalRiley, Just because you sheep in canada gave up your freedom and country to a girly boy l*****t dictator doesn't mean we have to follow. We still have courageous Republicans and Conservatives willing to fight for America, freedom and our Constitution.

WEBCO You got it right. *** It's a committee that is purely partisan that was put together in a way that has NEVER been done before. If we allow a political kangaroo court to continue we are just another banana republic.>>>Explained over and over. You can teach those that haven't learned. But you can't fix stupid

Blade_Runner, >>>Great rebuttal

slatten49, ***Blade, I never doubted that you or someone could find a counter-article on Judge Luttig. Yet, his impeccable resume and credentials speak volumes against the whimpers of resistance to his testified t***hs. >>>His impeccable resume falls flat on its face when he comes out with utter bull s**t.
*** BTW, short of slander and libel...one's opinion in judging another is a right/entitlement all Americans have. >>>and we freely can say that your opinions expressed on this thread are also a lot of bull s**t.

Blade_Runner, >>>Great rebuttal again

microphor ***Conservatives tend to be pro life, why would they destroy pregnancy centers? "Jane's Revenge is an American far-left militant organization, >>>Summed it up nicely.

slatten49***Actually, Blade, no. I'm h*****g my arguments on the t***h of what many Americans believe with regard to Trump and his sycophantic cult: He's a con-man, a chronic sociopathic liar and grifter. They, in step, follow suit. If you don't see and understand that...then, you simply haven't been paying attention.
>>>Actually, Slatten you are h*****g your arguments on the lies from the left. Many Americans believe in biden and his l*****t puppet masters. But the numbers are falling. He's a con-man, a chronic sociopathic liar and grifter. As is his family. He has never accomplished a thing of value in 40 years in politics. If you don't see and understand that...then, you simply haven't been paying attention.
>>>Take your blinders off, Slatten. Get real for crying out loud and look closely at the disaster biden and his puppet masters have created. You and others should truly consider the consequences.

It is fun calling out bull s**t

Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON

Unf*ckingbelievable! Talk about projection.

THE TRUMP H**E CULT is nearly 7 years old and you're gonna ignore its disastrous policies and the consequences?

The high priests of postmodern secular progressivism (democrats) and their propaganda machine declared war on
Donald Trump the day he announced his candidacy for POTUS, and the war escalated to encompass over half the American people. This political vendetta has been raging unabated with no end in sight. It is a political character assassination unprecedented in American history. Clearly, it is the greatest political scandal our nation has ever seen.

And look now at the consequences. Look closely at the consequences of a corrupt, dysfunctional, incompetent, inept, and thoroughly unconstitutional mob of miscreants and malcontents steering the USS Hellbound.

Our country is on the brink of collapse and you're gonna blame Donald Trump?
There's another word for you and it sure as hell isn't "patriot."

Oh, yeah man, I should take my blinders off.