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May 31, 2022 14:43:12   #
WinkyTink Loc: Hill Country, TX
 
DASHY wrote:
It is a fact that if the shooter was not able to acquire a gun, he could not have murdered 19 innocent people. Guns don't k**l people, people k**l people. It's the combination that leads to trouble. When a gun lands in the hands of a deranged 18-year old, you have the potential for mass murder. In a free society it is hard to control people. We still have the ability to control guns, if we really care about Public Safety.


It is a fact that if the shooter could not acquire that weapon from that shop, he would have obtained another weapon by other means to fulfill his desire.

The only people you can hope to control are the ones that don't need control.

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May 31, 2022 14:47:43   #
DASHY
 
WinkyTink wrote:
Not everyone agrees with the kind of public safety reform you are after. If your ideas were any good, you would have no trouble gaining sufficient Republican support.

I don't need any federal government legislation to improve my safety. I am well prepared to take care of that myself or die trying.

Soft targets can be sufficiently hardened.
Criminals can be held for trial and jailed with significant sentencing when they use a gun in their crime.


I am a soft target. I do not own a gun. How could I be sufficiently hardened (wh**ever that means)? The fear of punishment did not stop the Texas shooter. I rely on public safety laws to keep me from being murdered. It's not my ideas that are important, it is the combined effort of elected, appointed and employed public officials to bring about Public Safety measures to protect all Americans.

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May 31, 2022 14:52:08   #
Rose42
 
DASHY wrote:
Everyone agrees that Public Safety reforms are needed. Senate Republicans recently blocked a bill designed to combat domestic terrorism. The Democrats need the cooperation of Republican lawmakers in their attempt to satisfy the demand from American v**ers to enact legislation that will improve the Public Safety for all Americans.


Leave it to you to try and make this a partisan issue.

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May 31, 2022 14:59:53   #
WinkyTink Loc: Hill Country, TX
 
DASHY wrote:
I am a soft target. I do not own a gun. How could I be sufficiently hardened (wh**ever that means)? The fear of punishment did not stop the Texas shooter. I rely on public safety laws to keep me from being murdered. It's not my ideas that are important, it is the combined effort of elected, appointed and employed public officials to bring about Public Safety measures to protect all Americans.


People are soft and can choose to harden themselves or not. I carry 95% of the time. It improves my odds, but guarantees nothing other than not to be shot dead, defenseless, pleading for mercy. It's your choice bubba.

Your either purposely obtuse or non-thinking. The hardening I refer to is the security at all schools and other gun-free zones. You can choose to immediately take effective action or continue down the fruitless path of attempting to legislate our guns away. The people you are trying to control through your gun laws are the people who do not need to be controlled. It's logic, practicality and prioritization, not emotional. Do you want to protect children or take my guns? Go for it and we will see you in November!

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May 31, 2022 15:03:23   #
DASHY
 
JFlorio wrote:
Sure he could have. The Bath School disaster, which took the lives of 38 children and six adults in 1927. It remains the deadliest mass murder in a school in American history.

In his new book, Maniac, author Harold Schechter tells the horrifying story of the massacre, in which a farmer-politician bombed a school in Bath Township, Mich. It's not an easy book to read — the details of the terrorist act are, as you might expect, extremely horrifying — but it's a fascinating look at one of the most unspeakable events in American history. You have still not given your solution. all you do is whine. typical prog.

I noticed you said in a free society. Are you the type to give up freedoms for security? History has shown us when you do this, you get neither.
Sure he could have. The Bath School disaster, whic... (show quote)


I believe it is illegal to buy or own bombs, or any personally constructed WMD. We could also make it illegal to buy or own certain hand held weapons. The freedom to bomb a school should be illegal. The freedom to murder schoolkids with a handheld weapon should be illegal. I willingly give up my freedom to k**l people.

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May 31, 2022 15:05:24   #
DASHY
 
Rose42 wrote:
Leave it to you to try and make this a partisan issue.


I didn't make it a partisan issue. It is already a partisan issue.

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May 31, 2022 15:08:31   #
LogicallyRight Loc: Chicago
 
DASHY wrote:
Training days are fun and informative. When faced with the prospect of actually confronting a deranged shooter holding a military-style weapon, training day instructions get lost in thoughts about self preservation. Cops would have a better chance of stopping a shooter if military-style weapons were not present.


They were civilian rifles not your misnamed military-style weapons

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May 31, 2022 15:09:45   #
LogicallyRight Loc: Chicago
 
Milosia2 wrote:
They take the
“To Serve and Protect”
To mean “to serve and protect themselves.”


For once we seem to maybe agree.

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May 31, 2022 15:14:35   #
DASHY
 
WinkyTink wrote:
People are soft and can choose to harden themselves or not. I carry 95% of the time. It improves my odds, but guarantees nothing other than not to be shot dead, defenseless, pleading for mercy. It's your choice bubba.

Your either purposely obtuse or non-thinking. The hardening I refer to is the security at all schools and other gun-free zones. You can choose to immediately take effective action or continue down the fruitless path of attempting to legislate our guns away. The people you are trying to control through your gun laws are the people who do not need to be controlled. It's logic, practicality and prioritization, not emotional. Do you want to protect children or take my guns? Go for it and we will see you in November!
People are soft and can choose to harden themselve... (show quote)


Do you really believe that it is your gun that "guarantees" that you will not be shot dead? Only 5% of the time you will be defenseless, pleading for mercy? Where do you live?

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May 31, 2022 15:15:15   #
LogicallyRight Loc: Chicago
 
DASHY wrote:
Everyone agrees that Public Safety reforms are needed. Senate Republicans recently blocked a bill designed to combat domestic terrorism. The Democrats need the cooperation of Republican lawmakers in their attempt to satisfy the demand from American v**ers to enact legislation that will improve the Public Safety for all Americans.


When democrats sit down with Republicans to jointly write laws, with equal input, from an equal balanced committee, then I'll listen to your bull s**t. But all they do is write law after law taking away our rights and blaming Republics for not kissing their c*******t asses. They can go and FO. Feel free to join them.

Any law written in passion, after a catastrophe, will be bad law.

Logically Right

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May 31, 2022 15:17:25   #
LogicallyRight Loc: Chicago
 
DASHY wrote:
It is a fact that if the shooter was not able to acquire a gun, he could not have murdered 19 innocent people. Guns don't k**l people, people k**l people. It's the combination that leads to trouble. When a gun lands in the hands of a deranged 18-year old, you have the potential for mass murder. In a free society it is hard to control people. We still have the ability to control guns, if we really care about Public Safety.


And remove his drivers license too. Wait, if you steal a car, with intent to run through a playground and k**l kids. you probably don't need a drivers license.

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May 31, 2022 15:19:57   #
LogicallyRight Loc: Chicago
 
DASHY wrote:
I am a soft target. I do not own a gun. How could I be sufficiently hardened (wh**ever that means)? The fear of punishment did not stop the Texas shooter. I rely on public safety laws to keep me from being murdered. It's not my ideas that are important, it is the combined effort of elected, appointed and employed public officials to bring about Public Safety measures to protect all Americans.


Yes, you are a soft target. And when the government takes away gun after gun until no one has guns but the government, the government will squish you between their toes.

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May 31, 2022 15:21:39   #
JFlorio Loc: Seminole Florida
 
DASHY wrote:
I believe it is illegal to buy or own bombs, or any personally constructed WMD. We could also make it illegal to buy or own certain hand held weapons. The freedom to bomb a school should be illegal. The freedom to murder schoolkids with a handheld weapon should be illegal. I willingly give up my freedom to k**l people.


No kidding? When did that ever stop a criminal. It is a personal choice, to murder or not. Making it illegal has never stopped a murderer.

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May 31, 2022 15:22:15   #
LogicallyRight Loc: Chicago
 
DASHY wrote:
I believe it is illegal to buy or own bombs, or any personally constructed WMD. We could also make it illegal to buy or own certain hand held weapons. The freedom to bomb a school should be illegal. The freedom to murder schoolkids with a handheld weapon should be illegal. I willingly give up my freedom to k**l people.


*** I willingly give up my freedom to k**l people.
>>>And that is exactly what will happen when you have no freedom. The government k*****g you.

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May 31, 2022 15:23:11   #
WinkyTink Loc: Hill Country, TX
 
DASHY wrote:
Do you really believe that it is your gun that "guarantees" that you will not be shot dead? Only 5% of the time you will be defenseless, pleading for mercy? Where do you live?


I said shot dead defenseless. I may be shot dead but I'll be reaching for it when it happens.

The only time I do not carry is when I'm out drinking or going into a courthouse both of which are rare.

I live next to you. I often patrol the property border. Just waiting.

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