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Apr 17, 2022 13:11:09   #
FallenOak Loc: St George Utah
 
Tiptop789 wrote:
Funny


One of my good friends was a member of the 'Chosen Few".

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Apr 17, 2022 13:20:02   #
Tiptop789 Loc: State of Denial
 
FallenOak wrote:
One of my good friends was a member of the 'Chosen Few".


That's incredible. I once had the opportunity to hear MOH receiptient, Master Sergeant Raul Perez "Roy" Benavidez, give a speech. They are in a special class.

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Apr 17, 2022 13:25:27   #
PeterS
 
Canuckus Deploracus wrote:
Question Peter... What are the Ukrainian military's losses to date???

You seem pretty aware of Russia's... So I'm sure your equally aware of the Ukraine's...


The topic starter, and how the Russian military wasn't standing up to either American or Ukrainian technology. This wasn't about Russia vs Ukraine--or I would have put Ukraine in the title. But if you really want Ukrainian casualties this, below, is from the first hit I got on google (and bear in mind, if you are looking at Russia, they would likely include civilians so they could make the number as palatable as possible for those that will be broadcast to; namely the Russian proletariat, plus the rest of the world):

Snip>>>Ukraine Has Lost Up to 3,000 Soldiers, Zelenskiy Says (1:25 a.m.)
President Volodymyr Zelensky estimated Ukraine's military casualties at between 2,500 to 3,000 dead and about 10,000 injured, according to excerpts from an interview with CNN's “State of the Union” set to be broadcast Sunday.

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Especially as they aren't lying like the Russians...
I'll wait while you post that information

Do you think the Russians are lying? I was under the impression that you believed their propaganda? At least you said you believed the only source that Putin will allow the Russia, or the world, to listen to; or did you think a right-wing European would think that much differently than the right-wing propaganda minister in Russia, namely Vladimir Putin? Do you think that I am wrong; that one follows the other? So show me any disagreement with Putin and I will change what I wrote.

And you should read all I wrote because I think it's interesting how American conservatives have juxtaposed how Putin was taught to behave by the Soviet Union and how Fox New has been taught to behave by American conservatives. Both believe in the same threat, only with opposites dancing to the tune being played!

You should be able to see how Putin has taught those below him to behave, or else...being the cutting of one's throat! This is how Fox News has been taught, only with its viewers being the ones in possession with the, or else! It's the same threat only with opposites in control of the preverbal ax, only Fox is threatened with cancellation and not the actual cutting of its throat...if that were possible, that is!

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Apr 17, 2022 13:59:52   #
FallenOak Loc: St George Utah
 
Tiptop789 wrote:
That's incredible. I once had the opportunity to hear MOH receiptient, Master Sergeant Raul Perez "Roy" Benavidez, give a speech. They are in a special class.


So very true.

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Apr 17, 2022 14:14:49   #
Smedley_buzkill
 
Milosia2 wrote:
I just love it when Bullies like Putin and trump get their asses kicked .
They go from superior beings to Victims
In seconds flat.


How would any Progtard know anything about superior beings?

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Apr 17, 2022 19:19:21   #
Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall
 
PeterS wrote:
Do you think the Russians are lying? I was under the impression that you believed their propaganda? At least you said you believed the only source that Putin will allow the Russia, or the world, to listen to; or did you think a right-wing European would think that much differently than the right-wing propaganda minister in Russia, namely Vladimir Putin? Do you think that I am wrong; that one follows the other? So show me any disagreement with Putin and I will change what I wrote.

And you should read all I wrote because I think it's interesting how American conservatives have juxtaposed how Putin was taught to behave by the Soviet Union and how Fox New has been taught to behave by American conservatives. Both believe in the same threat, only with opposites dancing to the tune being played!

You should be able to see how Putin has taught those below him to behave, or else...being the cutting of one's throat! This is how Fox News has been taught, only with its viewers being the ones in possession with the, or else! It's the same threat only with opposites in control of the preverbal ax, only Fox is threatened with cancellation and not the actual cutting of its throat...if that were possible, that is!
Do you think the Russians are lying? I was under t... (show quote)


I have provided you with sources from across the spectrum...

As you well know...

And I don't blindly follow Russian sources, although I do read them...

Your argument seems to be that an individual can only trust one side of the spectrum...Whereas my argument is that all sides should be read and assessed...

You trust only Ukrainian numbers.... And seem to trust the explicitly...
I look at both sides...

Both sides have been caught using propaganda... But you don't seem to mind when the side you support does it...

Bias rarely lends itself to critical thinking...

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Apr 17, 2022 19:45:43   #
Tiptop789 Loc: State of Denial
 
Canuckus Deploracus wrote:
I have provided you with sources from across the spectrum...

As you well know...

And I don't blindly follow Russian sources, although I do read them...

Your argument seems to be that an individual can only trust one side of the spectrum...Whereas my argument is that all sides should be read and assessed...

You trust only Ukrainian numbers.... And seem to trust the explicitly...
I look at both sides...

Both sides have been caught using propaganda... But you don't seem to mind when the side you support does it...

Bias rarely lends itself to critical thinking...
I have provided you with sources from across the s... (show quote)


You seem to have nothing to say, no country in this fight to wish success, yet you always claim to pray for peace, that you've provided reliable sources, blah, blah, blah. The t***h of the matter is its been much tougher for Russia than Putin was led to believe. Ukrainian losses probably don't matter, because their fighting for their lives. Russia is the invade. Someone had to convince their troops the fight is worthwhile. Remember the brilliant strategic move capturing the Chernobyl nuclear site and prompt digging trenches. That wasn't such a brilliant move. The Russian cruiser Moskva is now an undersea wreck. The Russian claim fire of unknown causes and sink in rough seas while being tied to Port. The weather was calm. No wonder the world (most) disbelieve all claims from Putin. Yet you choose to believe this is all according to plan? Makes one wonder.

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