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Feb 12, 2022 11:38:29   #
tbutkovich
 
fullspinzoo wrote:
I only wish there was a Super Bowl every weekend.


Can’t do much damage strapped to his easy chair watching TV with his telephone and network services disconnected.

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Feb 12, 2022 11:51:25   #
bggamers Loc: georgia
 
proud republican wrote:
With all due respect I disagree with you here.. There could be a lot of reasons they can't get out...in time.Like for example they're sick, or in the hospital, or they're taking care of the family .. So they should die, because our Government doesn't have balls to get our citizens out?


If people were warned PR how many of our militaries is it ok with you to die getting you out of an area you were told you needed to leave. Just asking if I'm not mistaken afghans werent even warned the military just moved out and people were told to go to airports, unfortunately, they couldn't reach them this is a Biden withdrawal. This is the way I understood it happened could be wrong

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Feb 12, 2022 12:01:27   #
fullspinzoo
 
bggamers wrote:
If people were warned PR how many of our militaries is it ok with you to die getting you out of an area you were told you needed to leave. Just asking if I'm not mistaken afghans werent even warned the military just moved out and people were told to go to airports, unfortunately, they couldn't reach them this is a Biden withdrawal. This is the way I understood it happened could be wrong


It was botched big time. Miliary left first and $85 Billion in military support was left behind. No problem to the left. They'll just raise taxes.

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Feb 12, 2022 12:06:41   #
bggamers Loc: georgia
 
fullspinzoo wrote:
It was botched big time. Miliary left first and $85 Billion in military support was left behind. No problem to the left. They'll just raise taxes.


They had 7 months to get people and equipment out and to warn allies HEY WE'RE LEAVING

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Feb 12, 2022 12:13:05   #
woodguru
 
proud republican wrote:
If you don't leave now,we're not going to rescue you!! You're on your own!!!🤮🙄😡😡


There is a window where it's easy to facilitate assistance in getting out, past that point if the worst comes to pass those stupid Americans become a huge liability. Under war terms rescue planes may be shot down, special rescue operations put soldier's lives at risk, and for what? Some i***t with their heads up their butts is what they are supposed to risk their lives for?

There comes a time when simply being an american is not enough to risk other american's lives.

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Feb 12, 2022 12:16:17   #
fullspinzoo
 
bggamers wrote:
They had 7 months to get people and equipment out and to warn allies HEY WE'RE LEAVING


Good point. Instead, we arm them to the max. Trump always stressed a strong military build up....and NOT for the Taliban. Aiding and abetting a foreign enemy? Treasonous.

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Feb 12, 2022 12:16:47   #
woodguru
 
bggamers wrote:
They had 7 months to get people and equipment out and to warn allies HEY WE'RE LEAVING


I guess you would never understand the trigger leaving would have sparked, the Taliban would not have patiently waited for an orderly withdrawal, they would have escalated actions against US support personnel we wanted to get out. And the right has never had the ability to understand that trump did nothing to expedite getting Afghan allies out before they were dead meat to the Taliban.

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Feb 12, 2022 12:21:21   #
woodguru
 
fullspinzoo wrote:
Good point. Instead, we arm them to the max. Trump always stressed a strong military build up....and NOT for the Taliban. Aiding and abetting a foreign enemy? Treasonous.


Like he "helped" Ukraine? He withheld the military support they needed to defend against russian tanks...and because it would have made Putin very unhappy to have the US give the Ukraine weapons that would have decimated their tanks.

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Feb 12, 2022 12:25:20   #
woodguru
 
microphor wrote:
What about those who may not be able to just pack up and leave, maybe ill or child is ill, just had surgery, doctor recommends they don't fly right now........ FJB


You've got to stop living in a what if fantasy world, we are talking about everyone getting out, no if and or buts, stay at your own peril is not that hard to understand.

Now is when to get out under an orderly and orchestrated manner, not later when the crap hits the fan and getting out is a chaotic and dangerous prospect that puts lives at risk.

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Feb 12, 2022 12:26:06   #
woodguru
 
proud republican wrote:
That's what I said too..👍👍👍


Those are different situations to be dealt with as needed.

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Feb 12, 2022 12:30:27   #
woodguru
 
microphor wrote:
Reality is that none of us really know what's going on over there, I remember all the confusion around Afghanistan and I wouldn't believe one word this admin is telling us!


Where does that leave you? Russian media is there pumping out it's FOX level propaganda

Knowing what to believe is about filtering sources and putting a picture together, something believers can't do, you pick a source and have chosen to either believe it or not believe anything they say. This is the sad state of people who have been barraged with misinformation to where they no longer know what to believe.

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Feb 12, 2022 12:35:34   #
microphor Loc: Home is TN
 
woodguru wrote:
Like he "helped" Ukraine? He withheld the military support they needed to defend against russian tanks...and because it would have made Putin very unhappy to have the US give the Ukraine weapons that would have decimated their tanks.

well at least he didn't give them blankets

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Feb 12, 2022 12:35:37   #
woodguru
 
Milosia2 wrote:
The ones they interviewed didn’t want to leave .


Which puts them in a category that they refused assistance and advice, when the chaos starts they are not the government's problem anymore.

Why don't those on the right respect people's right to chose and understand they have to take responsibility for their decisions? People's bad decisions should not put highly trained american lives at risk when they chose stupid paths.

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Feb 12, 2022 12:40:44   #
bggamers Loc: georgia
 
woodguru wrote:
I guess you would never understand the trigger leaving would have sparked, the Taliban would not have patiently waited for an orderly withdrawal, they would have escalated actions against US support personnel we wanted to get out. And the right has never had the ability to understand that trump did nothing to expedite getting Afghan allies out before they were dead meat to the Taliban.


But wood Trump had a plan in place which Biden ignored and it didn't help he had no plan and he had 7 months to get these people out of BS is BS left or right he botched it. If I didn't know better I'd swear he was behind Vietnamese withdrawal as well both similar in both left people who trusted us behind. A shame this country will not be able to easily shake off hell we still haven't lost the Vietnamese shadow yet

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Feb 12, 2022 12:45:40   #
bggamers Loc: georgia
 
woodguru wrote:
You've got to stop living in a what if fantasy world, we are talking about everyone getting out, no if and or buts, stay at your own peril is not that hard to understand.

Now is when to get out under an orderly and orchestrated manner, not later when the crap hits the fan and getting out is a chaotic and dangerous prospect that puts lives at risk.


Exactly stay at your own risk because passed a certain point we cant help you

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