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Jan 16, 2022 17:32:50   #
Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON
 
Ginny_Dandy wrote:
How did the N**is murder "6 million Jews" when they only had control of 4.5 million in all of Germany?

https://codoh.com/library/document/jewish-survivors-of-auschwitz-birkenau/en/

Jewish Survivors of Auschwitz-Birkenau

This document is part of the Inconvenient History periodical.

In addition to numerous Jewish survivors of Auschwitz-Birkenau I have met, it is amazing how many survivors of these camps are mentioned in pro-Holocaust books and other mainstream sources. This article will discuss some of these Jewish survivors and other eyewitnesses who prove that genocide did not take place at Auschwitz-Birkenau.
How did the N**is murder "6 million Jews"... (show quote)
I h**e having to repeat a post in the same thread. Apparently you don't follow a thread, you just react to individual posts without context or concern.

Twice now, you've asked, "How could the Germans have exterminated 6 million Jews when there were only 4.5 million Jews under Germany's control?"

Twice now, I give you the answer.

In 1939, there were 16.6 million Jews worldwide, and a majority of them – 9.5 million, or 57% – lived in Europe, according to DellaPergola’s estimates. By the end of World War II, in 1945, the Jewish population of Europe had shrunk to 3.8 million, or 35% of the world’s Jewish population.

About 6 million European Jews were k**led during the Holocaust. That is an indisputable fact.
Because the "Final Solution to the Jewish question" - the extermination of the Jews - was official state policy, the Holocaust is the most thoroughly documented atrocity in human history. The perpetrators themselves were bureaucratic zealots, the N**is kept records of everything.

In January, 1945, the Russian 322nd Rifle Division liberated Auschwitz-Birkenau.
One of the soldiers was the division's historian and film photographer.
Warning - This historical documentary contains some explicit Scenes that are of a violent nature and may be disturbing to some viewers!

To be specific so there is no misunderstanding about Jews under German control:

In 1939, the year Hitler started the war, there were an estimated 210,000 Jews in Germany, 3,300,000 in Poland, 300,000 in France, 90,000 in Belgium, 150,000 in Holland, 60,000 in Austria, 305,000 in Czechoslovakia, 404,000 in Hungary, 57,000 in Italy, 75,000 in Yugoslavia, 75,000 in Greece, 50,000 in Bulgaria, 850,000 in Romania, 150,000 in Lithuania, 100,000 in Latvia and Estonia, 8500 in Scandinavia, and 3,200,000 in Russia.

The map below shows the extent of Hitler's conquests at their peak in 1942, all that was under "German control".



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Jan 16, 2022 17:43:22   #
Radiance3
 
Ginny_Dandy wrote:
You are deceived, but I'm the liar? God help you!!

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I am not deceived. I won't allow you to deceive me.
Jesus was a Jew. His 12 Apostles were Jews.

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Jan 16, 2022 18:26:08   #
okie don
 
Wonder what became of the Khazar's from Khazaria

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Jan 16, 2022 18:27:14   #
okie don
 
I have always wondered how many are in Israel pretending to be authentic Jews...

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Jan 16, 2022 19:20:31   #
Justice101
 
[quote=Radiance3]===============
Where else shall I get this but from the Holy Bible.
Soros ancestry did not descend from Judah. There are many of them who were labeled as Jews since they have come from Canaan, the land given by God to Israel. There are 7 Tribes in Canaan.[b] The Hebrew Bible considers the Canaanites and groups associated with them—Amorites, Hittites, Jebusites, Hivites, Perizzites, and Girgas**tes. These God asked Joshua to destroy them when they entered Canaan from the s***ery of Egypt. These tribes survived in various kinds.

That would make Soros ancestors Palestinians or Arabs if what you are saying.......

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Jan 16, 2022 19:27:01   #
lindajoy Loc: right here with you....
 
JR-57 wrote:
Excellent is an understatement when describing your summation and clarity. I’ve heard said that the pendulum always naturally swings from hard left to hard right and given time, back again. In our current situation I believe that pendulum is going to need a strong, unrelenting push to have it swing back the other way. A nudge and a suggestion will not be enough to start it’s swing. I ask myself; What cataclysmic event is required for us to sacrifice and rise up like those who have gone before us, to rise and stand for all that is good? The decades of chipping away at our once great nation has now evolved into a daily full blown assault upon the foundation of our country. And here we sit, pontificating about its demise. Myself included. What single event is required to trigger the revolt? Who among us have the courage to forego the failed passive resistance and begin the process of turning back the assault with all might and follow through to completion? I wonder if that courage our founders displayed are in any of us. I fear it won’t be found.
Excellent is an understatement when describing you... (show quote)



I think what both of you has to say is accurate and sounding the horn as you share thoughts is more than just important but fundamental to the unthinkable changes in course direction by many an over reach never to have been allowed but which was taken by abuse all under the purvey of righteous misgivings…
We elect our representatives and they enact laws which are “supposed to be within the framework of the Constitution.” It should be the expectation of Americans that those we entrust with our delegated sovereignty would craft laws in accordance with our wishes as expressed in the founding document of our government. Namely limited government, personal liberty, and economic freedom…What we have actually gotten is suppression of our will and over reach of a government that seeks power and control of the people rather than defending their freedoms or that of our country..

And unicorns flew with the Christmas elves and reindeer until the cow jumped over the moon too!!

The perpetually re-elected “who control the two houses of our legislature make law with no regard for the limits, the spirit, or the letter of our Constitution… “ A mistake in allowing these perpetrators to dictate law for so long and where true term limits ever so clear should have always been and now needed if we are to have any hope in changing the course of these egregious breeches we can not now control… In this case they have decreed not participating in Commerce is commerce, free trade is not free trade and that a penalty is not a tax, that is a tax,( think of the hell that took place with the ACA forced passage) and then isn’t again under new leadership..After years of stepping so far over the line they have forgotten there was a line to begin with and one that needed the utmost strictest adherence!!! The Party of Power has finally legislated us to the point of no return. If the court of last resort gives this power grab the green light what limits are left? And they have no doubt done so!!!

Laws have been passed over the overwhelming rejection of the v**ers that cement the dictatorship of a Party in the t***sformation of America from what we have known into what we would never choose. The Court appears to be our last line of defense. But where does the Supreme Court get its power? Three bodies of government or have we forgotten???

Does the government have the power to compel a citizen to enter into a contract? No ~~ Is a contract made under duress valid? No!!! Does Congress have the power to make the purchasing of a product necessary to maintain the status of a law abiding citizen? ( v*****es~ no, but they c*********d in their ruling) how about the v*****e card mandate, another No yet they are trying to force it upon us…If the answer to what should be rhetorical questions is not a resounding “NO!” we have strayed beyond the pale of liberty and are adrift in the seas of arbitrary power.!!!

As we look to an unconstitutional process to save the Constitution perhaps we need to reflect on the state of our Republic.!!!Get out and study what The Federalist papers tell us and our founding fathers saw and warned of.. Since we are living in the world they predicted maybe we should take a second look at what they recommended as an alternative to what we have become? Lest we do nothing and tyranny run over us!!! As if it isn’t already in the process as you so astutely point out...and for gosh sakes get strict term limits enacted from the SCOTUS all the way down to state as well as federally!!!

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Jan 16, 2022 19:27:30   #
Radiance3
 
[quote=Justice101][quote=Radiance3]===============
Where else shall I get this but from the Holy Bible.
Soros ancestry did not descend from Judah. There are many of them who were labeled as Jews since they have come from Canaan, the land given by God to Israel. There are 7 Tribes in Canaan.[b] The Hebrew Bible considers the Canaanites and groups associated with them—Amorites, Hittites, Jebusites, Hivites, Perizzites, and Girgas**tes. These God asked Joshua to destroy them when they entered Canaan from the s***ery of Egypt. These tribes survived in various kinds.

That would make Soros ancestors Palestinians or Arabs if what you are saying.......[/quote]
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Ginny did not want to admit that. She even defended Bin Ladin about the 9/11 terror attack. She accused the Jews, PM Netanyahu and president Bush.

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Jan 16, 2022 19:36:06   #
Justice101
 
lindajoy wrote:
I think what both of you has to say is accurate and sounding the horn as you share thoughts is more than just important but fundamental to the unthinkable changes in course direction by many an over reach never to have been allowed but which was taken by abuse all under the purvey of righteous misgivings…
We elect our representatives and they enact laws which are “supposed to be within the framework of the Constitution.” It should be the expectation of Americans that those we entrust with our delegated sovereignty would craft laws in accordance with our wishes as expressed in the founding document of our government. Namely limited government, personal liberty, and economic freedom…What we have actually gotten is suppression of our will and over reach of a government that seeks power and control of the people rather than defending their freedoms or that of our country..

And unicorns flew with the Christmas elves and reindeer until the cow jumped over the moon too!!

The perpetually re-elected “who control the two houses of our legislature make law with no regard for the limits, the spirit, or the letter of our Constitution… “ A mistake in allowing these perpetrators to dictate law for so long and where true term limits ever so clear should have always been and now needed if we are to have any hope in changing the course of these egregious breeches we can not now control… In this case they have decreed not participating in Commerce is commerce, free trade is not free trade and that a penalty is not a tax, that is a tax,( think of the hell that took place with the ACA forced passage) and then isn’t again under new leadership..After years of stepping so far over the line they have forgotten there was a line to begin with and one that needed the utmost strictest adherence!!! The Party of Power has finally legislated us to the point of no return. If the court of last resort gives this power grab the green light what limits are left? And they have no doubt done so!!!

Laws have been passed over the overwhelming rejection of the v**ers that cement the dictatorship of a Party in the t***sformation of America from what we have known into what we would never choose. The Court appears to be our last line of defense. But where does the Supreme Court get its power? Three bodies of government or have we forgotten???

Does the government have the power to compel a citizen to enter into a contract? No ~~ Is a contract made under duress valid? No!!! Does Congress have the power to make the purchasing of a product necessary to maintain the status of a law abiding citizen? ( v*****es~ no, but they c*********d in their ruling) how about the v*****e card mandate, another No yet they are trying to force it upon us…If the answer to what should be rhetorical questions is not a resounding “NO!” we have strayed beyond the pale of liberty and are adrift in the seas of arbitrary power.!!!

As we look to an unconstitutional process to save the Constitution perhaps we need to reflect on the state of our Republic.!!!Get out and study what The Federalist papers tell us and our founding fathers saw and warned of.. Since we are living in the world they predicted maybe we should take a second look at what they recommended as an alternative to what we have become? Lest we do nothing and tyranny run over us!!! As if it isn’t already in the process as you so astutely point out...and for gosh sakes get strict term limits enacted from the SCOTUS all the way down to state as well as federally!!!
I think what both of you has to say is accurate an... (show quote)


BRAVO LindaJoy

We, the People can make changes to our Constitution-Check out the Convention of States. We're making progress!

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Jan 16, 2022 20:06:32   #
martsiva
 
Ginny_Dandy wrote:
I think you're mistaken. Jesus would've denounced Stalin and c*******m. The trouble is, you believe the lie about the holocaust and Hitler.


Yes Jesus would have denounced Stalin and c*******m but I do understand there were many lies told of what happened during the Holocaust and what lie about Hitler are you referring to?

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Jan 16, 2022 21:00:14   #
Oldsalt
 
JR-57 wrote:
Excellent is an understatement when describing your summation and clarity. I’ve heard said that the pendulum always naturally swings from hard left to hard right and given time, back again. In our current situation I believe that pendulum is going to need a strong, unrelenting push to have it swing back the other way. A nudge and a suggestion will not be enough to start it’s swing. I ask myself; What cataclysmic event is required for us to sacrifice and rise up like those who have gone before us, to rise and stand for all that is good? The decades of chipping away at our once great nation has now evolved into a daily full blown assault upon the foundation of our country. And here we sit, pontificating about its demise. Myself included. What single event is required to trigger the revolt? Who among us have the courage to forego the failed passive resistance and begin the process of turning back the assault with all might and follow through to completion? I wonder if that courage our founders displayed are in any of us. I fear it won’t be found.
Excellent is an understatement when describing you... (show quote)

I fear it’s not the courage we need…it’s the leadership. I for one will go the distance, but I need leadership.

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Jan 16, 2022 21:34:48   #
Radiance3
 
lindajoy wrote:
I think what both of you has to say is accurate and sounding the horn as you share thoughts is more than just important but fundamental to the unthinkable changes in course direction by many an over reach never to have been allowed but which was taken by abuse all under the purvey of righteous misgivings…
We elect our representatives and they enact laws which are “supposed to be within the framework of the Constitution.” It should be the expectation of Americans that those we entrust with our delegated sovereignty would craft laws in accordance with our wishes as expressed in the founding document of our government. Namely limited government, personal liberty, and economic freedom…What we have actually gotten is suppression of our will and over reach of a government that seeks power and control of the people rather than defending their freedoms or that of our country..

And unicorns flew with the Christmas elves and reindeer until the cow jumped over the moon too!!

The perpetually re-elected “who control the two houses of our legislature make law with no regard for the limits, the spirit, or the letter of our Constitution… “ A mistake in allowing these perpetrators to dictate law for so long and where true term limits ever so clear should have always been and now needed if we are to have any hope in changing the course of these egregious breeches we can not now control… In this case they have decreed not participating in Commerce is commerce, free trade is not free trade and that a penalty is not a tax, that is a tax,( think of the hell that took place with the ACA forced passage) and then isn’t again under new leadership..After years of stepping so far over the line they have forgotten there was a line to begin with and one that needed the utmost strictest adherence!!! The Party of Power has finally legislated us to the point of no return. If the court of last resort gives this power grab the green light what limits are left? And they have no doubt done so!!!

Laws have been passed over the overwhelming rejection of the v**ers that cement the dictatorship of a Party in the t***sformation of America from what we have known into what we would never choose. The Court appears to be our last line of defense. But where does the Supreme Court get its power? Three bodies of government or have we forgotten???

Does the government have the power to compel a citizen to enter into a contract? No ~~ Is a contract made under duress valid? No!!! Does Congress have the power to make the purchasing of a product necessary to maintain the status of a law abiding citizen? ( v*****es~ no, but they c*********d in their ruling) how about the v*****e card mandate, another No yet they are trying to force it upon us…If the answer to what should be rhetorical questions is not a resounding “NO!” we have strayed beyond the pale of liberty and are adrift in the seas of arbitrary power.!!!

As we look to an unconstitutional process to save the Constitution perhaps we need to reflect on the state of our Republic.!!!Get out and study what The Federalist papers tell us and our founding fathers saw and warned of.. Since we are living in the world they predicted maybe we should take a second look at what they recommended as an alternative to what we have become? Lest we do nothing and tyranny run over us!!! As if it isn’t already in the process as you so astutely point out...and for gosh sakes get strict term limits enacted from the SCOTUS all the way down to state as well as federally!!!
I think what both of you has to say is accurate an... (show quote)

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Great analysis Linda!
Fact of the matter is, it is already happening. Reasons why our elected officials and those appointed to certain positions are obliged to take an oath to uphold the constitution as they discharge their duties. But that oath does not matter anymore.

And what party violates what they've sworn to uphold the constitution? The C*******t-democrats. Got worst since Barack Obama took office in 2009.
https://www.govinfo.gov/content/pkg/CHRG-112hhrg75846/html/CHRG-112hhrg75846.htm

The 3 separation of powers do not function effectively. What has Congress done against president Trump under Pelosi? All but constitutional violations.

And now Biden though demented, seems to have succeeded t***sforming this country to Marxism. I think there is power behind him that enabled it to happen. Even his DOJ, does not function justice, but politics.

We the people, face the greatest challenge to fix these problems, come 2022 mid-term, and beyond .

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Jan 16, 2022 21:41:22   #
Radiance3
 
[quote=Justice101][quote=Radiance3]===============
Where else shall I get this but from the Holy Bible.
Soros ancestry did not descend from Judah. There are many of them who were labeled as Jews since they have come from Canaan, the land given by God to Israel. There are 7 Tribes in Canaan.[b] The Hebrew Bible considers the Canaanites and groups associated with them—Amorites, Hittites, Jebusites, Hivites, Perizzites, and Girgas**tes. These God asked Joshua to destroy them when they entered Canaan from the s***ery of Egypt. These tribes survived in various kinds.

That would make Soros ancestors Palestinians or Arabs if what you are saying.......[/quote]
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Wherever Soros came from, but he is NOT from the ancestors of Jews who descended from Judah.

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Jan 16, 2022 23:26:03   #
Justice101
 
Radiance3 wrote:
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Wherever Soros came from, but he is NOT from the ancestors of Jews who descended from Judah.


You wrote:

George Soros is not a Jew. Jewish means those who descended from the tribe of Judah, who came from Israel.

Here are the groups where Soros could have came from:
The Canaanites and groups associated with them—Amorites, Hittites, Jebusites, Hivites, Perizzites, and Girgas**tes—constituting what tradition calls the “seven nations of Canaan,”
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So, that would probably be the ancestors of the Palestinians who declare that Israel belongs to them.
The Canaanites and their "nations" were certainly sinfully depraved.

Israel was never commanded in the Bible to k**l the Canaanites merely to take control of the land. Rather, Yahweh made it clear that the Canaanite people were being destroyed for their sin. The land that was then vacant after the conquest was to be given to Israel as a blessing for their obedience, but if they sinned as Canaan had, then they too would lose the land.

The reason Yahweh repeatedly gives for the extermination of the Canaanites is that it is their judgment for their sin and r*******n against Him (Gen. 15:16; 18:20-21; Lev. 18:20-30; Deut. 7:3-4; 9:4-5). The Canaanites, as a whole culture, committed sins of idolatry, holy temple prostitution, adultery, homosexuality, incest, murder, bestiality, gang rape, and child sacrifice. Though other cultures also participated in some of these practices, it was the widespread involvement and acceptance of these sins that brought the Canaanites under Yahweh’s judgment. These sins exist in every culture, then and now, but are forbidden by most governments and are socially condemned by the majority of people in the culture. However, in Canaanite culture these sins were pretty much universally practiced and accepted because this is what their gods were like. Not only did they declare these acts as righteous morality, but they also participated in these acts in the worship of their gods as a means of gaining the gods’ approval.

Later Israel did commit the same sins as the Canaanites, and Yahweh took them into exile as judgment, as He said He would. He used another nation to do it just as He had used Israel to judge the Canaanites (2 Kgs. 17:7-23; 24:20-25:30). This fact makes it very clear that the extermination of the Canaanites had everything to do with the righteous justice of Yahweh and nothing else.

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Jan 16, 2022 23:37:48   #
microphor Loc: Home is TN
 
Ginny_Dandy wrote:
How did the N**is murder "6 million Jews" when they only had control of 4.5 million in all of Germany?

https://codoh.com/library/document/jewish-survivors-of-auschwitz-birkenau/en/

Jewish Survivors of Auschwitz-Birkenau

This document is part of the Inconvenient History periodical.

In addition to numerous Jewish survivors of Auschwitz-Birkenau I have met, it is amazing how many survivors of these camps are mentioned in pro-Holocaust books and other mainstream sources. This article will discuss some of these Jewish survivors and other eyewitnesses who prove that genocide did not take place at Auschwitz-Birkenau.
How did the N**is murder "6 million Jews"... (show quote)


I believe the survivors of the camps. Not the authors, the guards, the eye witnesses, the N**is.

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Jan 17, 2022 00:30:44   #
lindajoy Loc: right here with you....
 
Justice101 wrote:
BRAVO LindaJoy

We, the People can make changes to our Constitution-Check out the Convention of States. We're making progress!


I’m aware of the Convention of States. I am a participating member and do support its purpose!

Thank You…

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