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If Putin doesn't take biden seriously (and he doesn't), how in hell will biden deter Russian invasion of Ukraine????🙄🤯🙄
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Dec 5, 2021 18:49:25   #
proud republican Loc: RED CALIFORNIA
 
Kevyn wrote:
Putin is a pissant bully. We have states with bigger economies than Russia’s and a military that puts theirs to shame. Their only aircraft carrier had to be towed home from its last mission. Putin doesn’t have video of Biden receiving golden showers from hookers to blackmail him with. We can cripple their economy with sanctions and freeze the assets and end travel of the oligarchs that shore up Putin’s regime so they turn on him. It would also do good to provide Ukrainian forces with anti aircraft and anti armor weapons along with signal intelligence. Don’t worry we are far better off with Biden’s leadership than Putin’s pathetic lapdog Trump.
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Still talking about your fantasy to be 'golden showered' I see???;😁😁😁 BTW, all this golden showers BS has been debunked!!🙄

https://www.realclearinvestigations.com/articles/2019/12/09/watchdog_fbi_knew_pee_tape_unfounded_didnt_tell_trump_121551.html

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Dec 6, 2021 05:18:34   #
Kickaha Loc: Nebraska
 
LogicallyRight wrote:
Can anyone take biden seriously.

Putin doesn't want to invade Ukraine. Putin justifiably doesn't want NATO to continually grow right up to Russia's border and essentially strangle Russia. These expansions have long been an aggression towards Russia. That old war is over, and it is NATO that won't stop fighting it, at least to the extent of trying to cut off Russia from the West. Current Russia's only threat to Europe, the purpose of NATO, is economically. Open markets limit those threats. More pipelines from the Middle East and Russia help to open markets.

NATO has long been an in your face threat to Russia. Russia's interest in taking Ukraine would be as a buffer against NATO's expansion, which is totally unnecessary. That was also part of the reasons behind the taking of Crimea. And also of strong consideration is that Crimea has a very large ethnic Russian population. As does Eastern Ukraine. Russia has legitimate interests in protecting these people. That is one reason for supporting those in the Ukraine conflicts.

One must also consider that Ukraine had a list of rulers of questionable integrity or value to the Ukraine people Corrupt. But thy were v**ed in. Then the West supported and aided a c**p that threw out a leader who was close to Russia, and installed a leader who would be close to the West. This was a threat to Russia and initiated Russia's action. The West doesn't have clean hands here.

As for a conference between Putin and biden, it is like a chess master playing a once a week casual player of no discernible talent, losing his ability to think or even talk in reasonable logical streams. In a fair duel of wits, Putin would eat biden's lunch.

Remember when President Trump talked to Kim Jong-un, little rocket man. I have bigger rockets. Well, Russia can match the USA on Rockets, so we don't want to go there. All biden can do is threaten sanctions, and winter is coming, and Russia has oil and natural gas, and NATO needs oil and natural gas.

Logically Right
Can anyone take biden seriously. br br Putin doe... (show quote)


One reason for the high percentage of ethnic Russian population in Crimea and eastern Ukraine, is that for years while Ukraine was annexed into the Soviet Union, the Russians removed Ukrainians and moved in Russians. This is a tactic that has been used through out time around the world to control conquered territory.
I don't believe Putin wants an armed conflict. He has forces in place for it if necessary, but he will try to bully Ukraine and the west to back down and let him have his way. From day one, Biden has been caving in to both Russia and China. It's hard to be taken seriously if you spend all your time kissing their a$$es.

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Dec 6, 2021 05:22:20   #
skyrider
 
Kickaha wrote:
One reason for the high percentage of ethnic Russian population in Crimea and eastern Ukraine, is that for years while Ukraine was annexed into the Soviet Union, the Russians removed Ukrainians and moved in Russians. This is a tactic that has been used through out time around the world to control conquered territory.
I don't believe Putin wants an armed conflict. He has forces in place for it if necessary, but he will try to bully Ukraine and the west to back down and let him have his way. From day one, Biden has been caving in to both Russia and China. It's hard to be taken seriously if you spend all your time kissing their a$$es.
One reason for the high percentage of ethnic Russi... (show quote)



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Dec 6, 2021 08:08:44   #
guzzimaestro
 
LogicallyRight wrote:
Can anyone take biden seriously.

Putin doesn't want to invade Ukraine. Putin justifiably doesn't want NATO to continually grow right up to Russia's border and essentially strangle Russia. These expansions have long been an aggression towards Russia. That old war is over, and it is NATO that won't stop fighting it, at least to the extent of trying to cut off Russia from the West. Current Russia's only threat to Europe, the purpose of NATO, is economically. Open markets limit those threats. More pipelines from the Middle East and Russia help to open markets.

NATO has long been an in your face threat to Russia. Russia's interest in taking Ukraine would be as a buffer against NATO's expansion, which is totally unnecessary. That was also part of the reasons behind the taking of Crimea. And also of strong consideration is that Crimea has a very large ethnic Russian population. As does Eastern Ukraine. Russia has legitimate interests in protecting these people. That is one reason for supporting those in the Ukraine conflicts.

One must also consider that Ukraine had a list of rulers of questionable integrity or value to the Ukraine people Corrupt. But thy were v**ed in. Then the West supported and aided a c**p that threw out a leader who was close to Russia, and installed a leader who would be close to the West. This was a threat to Russia and initiated Russia's action. The West doesn't have clean hands here.

As for a conference between Putin and biden, it is like a chess master playing a once a week casual player of no discernible talent, losing his ability to think or even talk in reasonable logical streams. In a fair duel of wits, Putin would eat biden's lunch.

Remember when President Trump talked to Kim Jong-un, little rocket man. I have bigger rockets. Well, Russia can match the USA on Rockets, so we don't want to go there. All biden can do is threaten sanctions, and winter is coming, and Russia has oil and natural gas, and NATO needs oil and natural gas.

Logically Right
Can anyone take biden seriously. br br Putin doe... (show quote)


Good post LR. Putin is a master strategist and what he says on the world stage might be different than his private negotiations. By the way, I can see why he might be skeptical of the Ukraine Leadership, they did business with H****r

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Dec 6, 2021 09:57:40   #
microphor Loc: Home is TN
 
LogicallyRight wrote:
Can anyone take biden seriously.

Putin doesn't want to invade Ukraine. Putin justifiably doesn't want NATO to continually grow right up to Russia's border and essentially strangle Russia. These expansions have long been an aggression towards Russia. That old war is over, and it is NATO that won't stop fighting it, at least to the extent of trying to cut off Russia from the West. Current Russia's only threat to Europe, the purpose of NATO, is economically. Open markets limit those threats. More pipelines from the Middle East and Russia help to open markets.

NATO has long been an in your face threat to Russia. Russia's interest in taking Ukraine would be as a buffer against NATO's expansion, which is totally unnecessary. That was also part of the reasons behind the taking of Crimea. And also of strong consideration is that Crimea has a very large ethnic Russian population. As does Eastern Ukraine. Russia has legitimate interests in protecting these people. That is one reason for supporting those in the Ukraine conflicts.

One must also consider that Ukraine had a list of rulers of questionable integrity or value to the Ukraine people Corrupt. But thy were v**ed in. Then the West supported and aided a c**p that threw out a leader who was close to Russia, and installed a leader who would be close to the West. This was a threat to Russia and initiated Russia's action. The West doesn't have clean hands here.

As for a conference between Putin and biden, it is like a chess master playing a once a week casual player of no discernible talent, losing his ability to think or even talk in reasonable logical streams. In a fair duel of wits, Putin would eat biden's lunch.

Remember when President Trump talked to Kim Jong-un, little rocket man. I have bigger rockets. Well, Russia can match the USA on Rockets, so we don't want to go there. All biden can do is threaten sanctions, and winter is coming, and Russia has oil and natural gas, and NATO needs oil and natural gas.

Logically Right
Can anyone take biden seriously. br br Putin doe... (show quote)


good post

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Dec 6, 2021 09:59:34   #
microphor Loc: Home is TN
 
Kevyn wrote:
Putin is a pissant bully. We have states with bigger economies than Russia’s and a military that puts theirs to shame. Their only aircraft carrier had to be towed home from its last mission. Putin doesn’t have video of Biden receiving golden showers from hookers to blackmail him with. We can cripple their economy with sanctions and freeze the assets and end travel of the oligarchs that shore up Putin’s regime so they turn on him. It would also do good to provide Ukrainian forces with anti aircraft and anti armor weapons along with signal intelligence. Don’t worry we are far better off with Biden’s leadership than Putin’s pathetic lapdog Trump.
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The golden showers can be found on H****r's lap top along with his ho, ho, ho's!

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Dec 6, 2021 14:27:14   #
Carol Kelly
 
proud republican wrote:
https://nypost.com/2021/12/04/joe-biden-vows-to-deter-russian-invasion-of-ukraine/

I'm pretty sure Putin is 'shakin' in his boots from Biden's threat!!😁😁😁 NOT!!!


LOL! We all know what Putin thinks of Biden. The entire world has a good idea.

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Dec 6, 2021 15:05:58   #
River Reb Loc: MS Delta
 
proud republican wrote:
https://nypost.com/2021/12/04/joe-biden-vows-to-deter-russian-invasion-of-ukraine/

I'm pretty sure Putin is 'shakin' in his boots from Biden's threat!!😁😁😁 NOT!!!


O'biden will deter nobody from anything. He is an international babbling i***t.

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Dec 6, 2021 15:09:56   #
guzzimaestro
 
River Reb wrote:
O'biden will deter nobody from anything. He is an international babbling i***t.


post turtle

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Dec 6, 2021 16:08:39   #
Bach
 
How can we or Putin take Biden seriously?

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Dec 6, 2021 20:27:23   #
martsiva
 
LogicallyRight wrote:
Can anyone take biden seriously.

Putin doesn't want to invade Ukraine. Putin justifiably doesn't want NATO to continually grow right up to Russia's border and essentially strangle Russia. These expansions have long been an aggression towards Russia. That old war is over, and it is NATO that won't stop fighting it, at least to the extent of trying to cut off Russia from the West. Current Russia's only threat to Europe, the purpose of NATO, is economically. Open markets limit those threats. More pipelines from the Middle East and Russia help to open markets.

NATO has long been an in your face threat to Russia. Russia's interest in taking Ukraine would be as a buffer against NATO's expansion, which is totally unnecessary. That was also part of the reasons behind the taking of Crimea. And also of strong consideration is that Crimea has a very large ethnic Russian population. As does Eastern Ukraine. Russia has legitimate interests in protecting these people. That is one reason for supporting those in the Ukraine conflicts.

One must also consider that Ukraine had a list of rulers of questionable integrity or value to the Ukraine people Corrupt. But thy were v**ed in. Then the West supported and aided a c**p that threw out a leader who was close to Russia, and installed a leader who would be close to the West. This was a threat to Russia and initiated Russia's action. The West doesn't have clean hands here.

As for a conference between Putin and biden, it is like a chess master playing a once a week casual player of no discernible talent, losing his ability to think or even talk in reasonable logical streams. In a fair duel of wits, Putin would eat biden's lunch.

Remember when President Trump talked to Kim Jong-un, little rocket man. I have bigger rockets. Well, Russia can match the USA on Rockets, so we don't want to go there. All biden can do is threaten sanctions, and winter is coming, and Russia has oil and natural gas, and NATO needs oil and natural gas.

Logically Right
Can anyone take biden seriously. br br Putin doe... (show quote)


You have done your homework and you are correct!! NATO was supposed to be only used as protection against the Soviet Union after WWII but was never disbanded after the Soviets fell - no surprise there!! It is now a big part of the g*******t`s expansionist plans for the world. All of is going on in Ukraine should be no surprise to anyone since it borders Russia.

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Dec 6, 2021 20:33:35   #
Elwood Loc: Florida
 
proud republican wrote:
https://nypost.com/2021/12/04/joe-biden-vows-to-deter-russian-invasion-of-ukraine/

I'm pretty sure Putin is 'shakin' in his boots from Biden's threat!!😁😁😁 NOT!!!


Biden is a push over as is the head of our military! Bye bye Ukraine!

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Dec 6, 2021 20:37:37   #
martsiva
 
Kevyn wrote:
Putin is a pissant bully. We have states with bigger economies than Russia’s and a military that puts theirs to shame. Their only aircraft carrier had to be towed home from its last mission. Putin doesn’t have video of Biden receiving golden showers from hookers to blackmail him with. We can cripple their economy with sanctions and freeze the assets and end travel of the oligarchs that shore up Putin’s regime so they turn on him. It would also do good to provide Ukrainian forces with anti aircraft and anti armor weapons along with signal intelligence. Don’t worry we are far better off with Biden’s leadership than Putin’s pathetic lapdog Trump.
Putin is a pissant bully. We have states with bigg... (show quote)


Your pathetic arrogance is not only stupid but a menace to anyone around you!! You are so dense that you will not see how dangerous this is since Putin has nukes at his disposal!! It is people like you who need to be put in a rubber room because your attitude is what gets others k**led!!!

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Dec 6, 2021 20:48:31   #
martsiva
 
LogicallyRight wrote:
Thank you and I do appreciate your observation, especially because of your closeness to the issue at hand.

One of my earlier, much earlier, thoughts on the Russian/Ukraine situation was back during the c**p. And even earlier, And Crimea. My thoughts were, 'What would I do if I were in Putin's position?' I might do many of the same things. He took over Russia right after the fall of the U.S.S.R. He is a Russian. That is his country. They just lost the cold war. Save face? Fortify Russia? And then try to make Russia a major player and successful nation for the people. As I understand it, there was some sort of agreement to not extend NATO beyond Germany absorbing East Germany. Well, now it is one nation away from knocking on Russia's door and setting up missile sites inside Ukraine near Russia's border. We're at peace. There is no war going on between Russia and the U. S.

I believe that the Warsaw Pact nations should have stayed intact as a huge buffer between Russia and NATO. Then the U. S. should have slowly dropped out of NATO and let a Western European NATO and an old Warsaw Pact Eastern European bloc and Russia, iron out their own problems without the U. S. sticking their nose into everything.

Cheers and have a good day.
Logically Right
Thank you and I do appreciate your observation, es... (show quote)


The 'agreement' about NATO not being expanded into East Germany was made by George HW Bush to Gorbachev and Bush broke it by expanding into E. Germany like the good little New World Order g*******t that he was! This is just a classic example of how NATO is being used by New World Order g*******ts!

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Dec 6, 2021 21:35:02   #
Carol Kelly
 
Hug wrote:
The Ukraine has been a part of Russia since the days of Gingis
Khan. We don't have a dog in this fight.


I believe we do.

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