Obama: "I got it wrong about ISIS, Iraq" (Page 2): Most Christians go to church occasionally---when was the last time you saw that Muslim in church!!!!!! For that matter when was the...

greyfox Loc: western mass.

Tradition wrote:

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On CBS's "60 Minutes" Obama said: Our head of the intelligence community, Jim Clapper, has acknowledged that, I think, they underestimated what had been taking place in Syria." Obama said ISIS, went underground when U.S. forces fought al Qaeda in Iraq in the last decade.

Ah yes, it was Clapper's fault!! Obama knew nothing of the rise of ISIS. Daily intelligence briefings weren't enough. The capture of Tikrit was not enough. The fall of Fallujah was not enough. The attack on Mosul, not enough!! The city of Qaraqosh, the largest Christian city in Iraq - still, not enough!! And Obama was ignorant of all of it. It was the intelligence community's dereliction.

Obama also admitted that the United States overestimated the willingness of allies, such as Iraq, to join in the fight against ISIS - again, reflecting recent comments by Clapper. This Iraq military is the same one that is intended to be used as the "boots on the ground" in this "non-war." Wonder how many more weapons will be confiscated this time around.

Obama was also unaware of the portent of ISIS - otherwise he would never have defined them as a JV team. (It must have been somebody else who looked like him. RIGHT?)

It was his demeanor in this interview which really disturbed me. There was an arrogance (more than usual) in his bearing, as if he had made the determination that he was bound to have his way, no matter what!!! When he was asked if he thought the Democrats would keep the Senate, he boasted, "Yes," with an attitude of complete confidence. I don't think anyone can be assured of the results of an e******n - there are too many variables - yet Obama's posture suggested someone who glories in his power and knows how to use it. He even had the temerity to say, once again - post American beheadings and the loss of cities to ISIS which our brave soldiers lost life and limbs battling Sunni fighters for - that we are NOT AT WAR WITH ISLAM. This allegiance he has to Islam is getting downright perverse - especially in lieu of the following:

Archbishop Athanasius Toma Dawod of the Syriac Orthodox church said that Isis's capture of Qaraqosh, Iraq's largest Christian city, had marked a turning point for Christians in the country.

"Now we consider it genocide ethnic cleansing," he said. "They are k*****g our people in the name of Allah and telling people that anyone who k**ls a Christian will go straight to heaven: that is their message. They have burned churches; they have burned very old books. They have damaged our crosses and statues of the Virgin Mary. They are occupying our churches and converting them into mosques."

And despite his constant defense of Islam, there is still NOTHING FROM OBAMA ABOUT THE MASSACRE OF CHRISTIANS - I guess they're just not important to him - even though he professes to BE one. His Islamic partiality, considering what is now happening in the world, is not only blatantly obvious, but pernicious and dangerous as well.

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Most Christians go to church occasionally---when was the last time you saw that Muslim in church!!!!!! For that matter when was the last time you heard about any casualties in Afganistan??? When GWB was president we heard them every nite on the news!!! So damn phony!!!!

rocketride

B****sheep wrote:

Obama's now saying that "we" got it wron... (show quote)

Lie down with dogs, get up with fleas. I bet Clapper, et. al. are feeling mighty itchy, of late.

Or maybe it's more like waking up hung over, in a bed whose other occupant(s) have already left, and lying there trying to figure out whether your head or your ass hurts worse.

greyfox Loc: western mass.

rocketride wrote:

Lie down with dogs, get up with fleas. I bet Clapper, et. al. are feeling mighty itchy, of late.

Or maybe it's more like waking up hung over, in a bed whose other occupant(s) have already left, and lying there trying to figure out whether your head or your ass hurts worse.

Obama always blames somebody else--like a kid he needs to grow up!!!

jonhatfield Loc: Green Bay, WI

Steve700 wrote:

-- Just what else would you expect from someone who was brought up for 5 years in Indonesia as a Wahobi Muslim. And why in the hell does everyone presume that he gave that up.

You PRESUME an elementary student remained Muslim. The Obama conspiracy story lines are based on extremist assumptions--not t***h but assumptions and fabrications by nutcases...zero credibility. You discredit the RWE side and distract from rational political debate about Obama policies and actions.

Tradition Loc: Staten Island, N.Y.

greyfox wrote:

Obama always blames somebody else--like a kid he needs to grow up!!!

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A new Government Accountability Institute (GAI) report reveals that Obama has attended only 42.1% of his daily intelligence briefings (known officially as the P**********l Daily Brief, or PDB) in the 2,079 days of his presidency through September 29, 2014. The GAI report also included a breakdown of Obamas PDB attendance record between terms; he attended 42.4% of his PDBs in his first term and 41.3% in his second.

The GAIs alarming findings come on the heels of Obamas 60 Minutes comments on Sunday, wherein the president laid the blame for the Islamic States (ISIS) rapid rise squarely at the feet of his Director of National Intelligence James Clapper.

On Monday, the intelligence community blasted Obama and said hes shown longstanding DISINTEREST IN RECEIVING LIVE, IN-PERSON PDBS, that allow the Commander-in-Chief the chance for critical followup, feedback, questions, and the challenging of flawed intelligence assumptions.

It's pretty well-known that the president hasnt taken in-person intelligence briefings with any regularity since the early days of 2009, said an Obama national security staffer. He gets them in writing. The staffer also remarked that PDBs have contained DETAILED THREAT WARNINGS ABOUT THE ISLAMIC STATE DATING BACK TO BEFORE THE 2012 P**********L E******N.

Unless someone very senior has been shredding the president's daily briefings and telling him that the dog ate them, highly accurate predictions about ISIS have been showing up in the Oval Office since before the 2012 e******n.

So Obama's indifference to his PDBs did not only abort his foremost duty - that of keeping Americans safe - but caused the loss of Iraqi cities which American soldiers sacrificed life and limb to rescue, as well as the confiscation of American weaponry by ISIS. It has also caused an unholy alliance with Assad. By Obama's own admission, U.S. efforts to oust Syrian President Bashar Assad have been pushed to the back burner by the bombing campaign against Islamic State militants - a move which could ultimately help Assad stay in power. (Where did that red line go?)

Obama did not heed the warnings of his Intelligence Community and we are now in another mid-east WAR. Obama did not heed the recommendations of his Military Advisers, and pulled out of Iraq (because he need "permission" from Milaki) and we are now facing a caliph**e. Good Job, Barry.

Now, with ISIS controlling over 35,000 square miles of territory in its widening caliph**e in Iraq and Syria, and with Obama pointing fingers at his own Director of National Intelligence for the rise of ISIS, the question remains whether a 42% attendance record on daily intelligence briefings is acceptable.

feoliocifoico

Dear Obama lovers- Obama had intelligence for over a year about ISiS- besides wh**ever he find out on the news, They took over the cities that 4,500 American died for in a matter of months and he still did nothing. He does not care one bit about the American people. He then blamed his intelligence people for not keeping him informed, what a crook. Then it was because there were too many crisis going on at the same time. The only crisis that Obama sees is his Golf Score on his Golf Card. If the president of the United States can not handle more than a couple of crisis at one time then he is completely incompetent. We have the Terrorist under control. When is this president going to admit he was wrong and get on with taking the terrorist out. You fight a war to win not control. Obama has to be a Muslim he sure loves them and h**es America, he thinks that we are the cause of the terrorist groups. Obama ideology is going to get a lot more of Americans k**led.

feoliocifoico

Dear Obama lovers- Obama had intelligence for over a year about ISiS- besides wh**ever he find out on the news, They took over the cities that 4,500 American died for in a matter of months and he still did nothing. He does not care one bit about the American people. He then blamed his intelligence people for not keeping him informed, what a crook. Then it was because there were too many crisis going on at the same time. The only crisis that Obama sees is his Golf Score on his Golf Card. If the president of the United States can not handle more than a couple of crisis at one time then he is completely incompetent. We have the Terrorist under control. When is this president going to admit he was wrong and get on with taking the terrorist out. You fight a war to win not control. Obama has to be a Muslim he sure loves them and h**es America, he thinks that we are the cause of the terrorist groups. Obama ideology is going to get a lot more of Americans k**led.

rocketride

That would depend on what the meaning of 'ISIS', is is. . .

feoliocifoico wrote:

Dear Obama lovers- Obama had intelligence for over... (show quote)

Ricko Loc: Florida

B****sheep wrote:

Obama's now saying that "we" got it wron... (show quote)

B****sheep-the title is wrong-Obama will never say, " I got it wrong". Regardless of whether he is directly to blame it will always be someone else's fault and never Obama's. I wonder who will get the blame when ISIS takes our embassy over in Iraq? Good Luck America !!!

rocketride

Ricko wrote:

B****sheep-the title is wrong-Obama will never say, " I got it wrong". Regardless of whether he is directly to blame it will always be someone else's fault and never Obama's. I wonder who will get the blame when ISIS takes our embassy over in Iraq? Good Luck America !!!

What was that Bart Simpson line? Something like "I didn't do it. Nobody saw me do it. . ."?

Blacksheep

Ricko wrote:

B****sheep-the title is wrong-Obama will never say, " I got it wrong". Regardless of whether he is directly to blame it will always be someone else's fault and never Obama's. I wonder who will get the blame when ISIS takes our embassy over in Iraq? Good Luck America !!!

I know. He said "we", meaning "them", not him. But the t***h is, it's all on him. He's the president, he's the guy in charge, he's the one who makes the decisions. So I changed it to "I". Nothing wrong there.

greyfox Loc: western mass.

feoliocifoico wrote:

Dear Obama lovers- Obama had intelligence for over... (show quote)

Looks like this is when so many misguided people v**e with their heart and not with their head!!

rocketride

greyfox wrote:

Looks like this is when so many misguided people v**e with their heart and not with their head!!

And the pitiable thing is that many of them aren't even stupid, per se, just indoctrinated.