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The alarming message behind the GOP's embrace of Kyle Rittenhouse
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Nov 24, 2021 11:24:08   #
permafrost Loc: Minnesota
 
RandyBrian wrote:
i read the first part of it Bob. When I got to the part where he either lied, or was inexcusably ignorant of facts (when the author claimed that Kyle was in no way a member of the Kenosha community. Odd. I would have thought staying occasionally with his father, who lives in Kenosha, and by working there, that would qualify as one of his communities) In any case, at that point I did not figure the author was educated enough on the subject to bother reading further.
By the way, the MOST alarming thing about the trial, before, during, and after, was the plethora of out-and-out lies the media has told about the shooting, the laws involved, and Kyle himself.
You should be ashamed for contributing to such sewage.
i read the first part of it Bob. When I got to th... (show quote)


The punk lived with his mother in Illinois, his father had custody every other weekend..

what sort of job did the 17 year old have that was worth driving to Kenosha for? The kid had no drivers lic, so how did he travel? Walking? this was a very bad event, yet you lie and repeat other lies in order to make it seem worst then it truly was.. what a republican thing to do..

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Nov 24, 2021 11:27:53   #
permafrost Loc: Minnesota
 
That a person is acting legally in intentionally carrying a lethal weapon to a volatile public situation and that's ok regardless of provocation or consequence to others.

That if a person is carrying a gun and feels afraid or threatened, they can legally k**l others who are not carrying a lethal weapon and there will be no consequences.

If you assault a person with a skateboard they can shoot you dead and be just fine.

Apparently fear of each other is now more protected than actual human lives.

Its a much worse crime to buy a gun legally and then give it to your friend than it is to shoot and k**l people you are afraid of, and people who want guns to be legal applaud this.

Um yeah I do find the implications terrifying for our country.

I don't think Kyle was there as part of a well regulated m*****a, and yes there should be consequences when my ill considered action directly results in the death of others, regardless of intention.

If we stick with all this, we will turn our country into a shooting gallery that does not value human life.

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Nov 24, 2021 12:01:16   #
Big dog
 
permafrost wrote:
Gee for dumb.. he is not out.. his bail was set at 5 million $$$..

the deed was bad enough, why the hell lie about it???


He WAS out on $1,000 bond when he used the suv as a weapon.
NOW he’s in jail on 5 million dollars bail!!!
Try reading and stop thinking, you aren’t qualified !!

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Nov 24, 2021 12:16:45   #
maryla
 
Bad Bob wrote:
https://www.yahoo.com/news/alarming-message-behind-gops-embrace-162712092.html



A person is entitled to self defense!!

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Nov 24, 2021 12:22:49   #
permafrost Loc: Minnesota
 
Big dog wrote:
He WAS out on $1,000 bond when he used the suv as a weapon.
NOW he’s in jail on 5 million dollars bail!!!
Try reading and stop thinking, you aren’t qualified !!



This is the post I replied to..

Yahoooooo, where's your outrage over the guy who just plowed through a parade, out on a $1000 bail, murder 5 people and multiple injuries. Been pimping and impregnating a 15 year old. Why aren't you screaming for justice for those people. Maybe they didn't have a right to be at that parade

one more kid died today, so 6 k**led . I stand with my posting..

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Nov 24, 2021 12:43:36   #
America 1 Loc: South Miami
 
permafrost wrote:
Gee for dumb.. he is not out.. his bail was set at 5 million $$$..

the deed was bad enough, why the hell lies about it???


Your type of people, criminals:
Waukesha parade crash prompts calls for higher bail, but experts express caution
Nation Nov 23, 2021 9:41 AM EST
WAUKESHA, Wis. (AP) — The suspect in a Christmas parade crash in suburban Milwaukee that k**led five people was free on $1,000 bail posted just two days before the deadly event, a fact that is leading to a review of what happened and renewed calls for giving judges more power to set higher bails.

One pending case against Darrell Brooks Jr. included an allegation that he deliberately hit a woman with his car in early November after a fight.
Brooks has a lengthy criminal record. Below are court records from two incidents where Brooks was charged in July of 2020 and November of 2021; they include second-degree recklessly endangering safety, obstructing an officer, possession of a firearm by a felon, disorderly conduct, battery, and more.
https://www.cbs58.com/news/suv-driver-idd-in-parade-crash-was-he-fleeing-a-crime

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Nov 24, 2021 12:51:22   #
nonalien1 Loc: Mojave Desert
 
permafrost wrote:
Gee for dumb.. he is not out.. his bail was set at 5 million $$$..

the deed was bad enough, why the hell lie about it???


His bail for running over his girl friend was $1000 dollars . He was out on that bail when he ran over the people in the parade. Hope this helps your confusion.

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Nov 24, 2021 13:01:12   #
permafrost Loc: Minnesota
 
America 1 wrote:
Your type of people, criminals:
Waukesha parade crash prompts calls for higher bail, but experts express caution
Nation Nov 23, 2021 9:41 AM EST
WAUKESHA, Wis. (AP) — The suspect in a Christmas parade crash in suburban Milwaukee that k**led five people was free on $1,000 bail posted just two days before the deadly event, a fact that is leading to a review of what happened and renewed calls for giving judges more power to set higher bails.

One pending case against Darrell Brooks Jr. included an allegation that he deliberately hit a woman with his car in early November after a fight.
Brooks has a lengthy criminal record. Below are court records from two incidents where Brooks was charged in July of 2020 and November of 2021; they include second-degree recklessly endangering safety, obstructing an officer, possession of a firearm by a felon, disorderly conduct, battery, and more.
https://www.cbs58.com/news/suv-driver-idd-in-parade-crash-was-he-fleeing-a-crime
Your type of people, criminals: br Waukesha parade... (show quote)



Are you nuts? i never defended the $1000 bail... I made the point that after these k*****gs he is not walking the street and bail for this offense is 5 million $$$..

I will add, $1000 sounds about right for those offenses you listed. however much we would like we can not keep the dork off the streets for what he may do in the future. And this time that future offense was very horrible..

A child died today, making his total k**led to be 6.. no one is trying to defend him in anyway..

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Nov 24, 2021 13:06:45   #
permafrost Loc: Minnesota
 
nonalien1 wrote:
His bail for running over his girl friend was $1000 dollars . He was out on that bail when he ran over the people in the parade. Hope this helps your confusion.


I am not confused, the right wingers want the most severe repercussion imagnable for the person they do not like, before he even did the terrible deed..

Now I find that by a strange coincidence, as usual, the right wing version is not quite correct..

Why not keep quite and let the fool spend life in the slammer rather then make up a plot to do the same thing..

From the NYT..

Darrell E. Brooks, who is accused of driving a maroon 2010 Ford Escape into the Christmas parade in Waukesha, has a long, violent criminal history — and was freed just six days ago on $1,000 bail after being accused of trying to run over his girlfriend with the same S.U.V.

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Nov 24, 2021 13:09:53   #
nonalien1 Loc: Mojave Desert
 
permafrost wrote:
That a person is acting legally in intentionally carrying a lethal weapon to a volatile public situation and that's ok regardless of provocation or consequence to others.

That if a person is carrying a gun and feels afraid or threatened, they can legally k**l others who are not carrying a lethal weapon and there will be no consequences.

If you assault a person with a skateboard they can shoot you dead and be just fine.

Apparently fear of each other is now more protected than actual human lives.

Its a much worse crime to buy a gun legally and then give it to your friend than it is to shoot and k**l people you are afraid of, and people who want guns to be legal applaud this.

Um yeah I do find the implications terrifying for our country.

I don't think Kyle was there as part of a well regulated m*****a, and yes there should be consequences when my ill considered action directly results in the death of others, regardless of intention.

If we stick with all this, we will turn our country into a shooting gallery that does not value human life.
That a person is acting legally in intentionally c... (show quote)


The right to defend yourself is a basic human right. By upholding this right and finding Kyle not guilty will make people think twice about turning a protest into a r**t. K*****g another human is not a good thing but by the courts decision it may prevent more k*****g and destruction in the future at protests and r**ts that will inevitably take place.

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Nov 24, 2021 14:23:57   #
AmericanEagle Loc: Indiana
 
JR-57 wrote:
He crossed state lines.

State.

Lines.

The lines between states.

On one side is one state, one is another state.

And he crossed them... he crossed the state lines.

STATE LINES!

One minute he was in one state, and the next he was in another. Because he went across a state line.

Lines. Lines of state. Just went across them.

State lines.

STATE LINES!

STAAAAATE LIIIINES!!!!

W***e s*******y!!!


That’s what you Have to do when your parents are divorced and live in two different states. You have to cross state lines! Don’t spread the lie he took a gun from state to state because that is a lie. He had a gun interstate he was residing in at the time.

B*M and black panthers deserve same title as W***e s*******y then!

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Nov 24, 2021 14:58:44   #
permafrost Loc: Minnesota
 
nonalien1 wrote:
The right to defend yourself is a basic human right. By upholding this right and finding Kyle not guilty will make people think twice about turning a protest into a r**t. K*****g another human is not a good thing but by the courts decision it may prevent more k*****g and destruction in the future at protests and r**ts that will inevitably take place.


do you think some may see this as a green light to shoot down others in the street and walk away free?

to say an unarmed person was a danger when you hold an AR-15 in you hands is a real stretch..

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Nov 24, 2021 15:12:26   #
America 1 Loc: South Miami
 
permafrost wrote:
Are you nuts? I never defended the $1000 bail... I made the point that after these k*****gs he is not walking the street and bail for this offense is 5 million $$$.

I will add, $1000 sounds about right for those offenses you listed. however much we would like we can not keep the dork off the streets for what he may do in the future. And this time that future offense was very horrible.

A child died today, making his total k**led to be 6. no one is trying to defend him in any way.


The point is the bond was too low and he should not have been released, by another one of your favorites, Soros:
Career criminal Darrell E. Brooks Jr. has emerged as the top suspect accused of plowing his red SUV through Waukesha, Wisconsin’s annual Christmas parade on Sunday, k*****g at least five people and injuring dozens of others, including children.

But just last week, Mr. Brooks was released from Milwaukee County jail on $1,000 bail for charges including battery, domestic abuse, reckless endangerment, resisting arrest, and bail-jumping. In July of last year, Mr. Brooks was charged with reckless endangerment and possessing a firearm as a felon. In addition, he’s a registered sex offender in Nevada.

“A background check from Wisconsin’s Department of Justice came back with over 50 pages of charges against Brooks stretching back decades,” Fox News reported this week.

Should he be found culpable in Sunday’s atrocities, Mr. Brooks clearly didn’t deserve to be back on the streets of Waukesha. And yet there he was, mainly due to an approach pushed by district attorneys across the country backed by liberal billionaire financier George Soros, an approach that champions such so-called “criminal justice reforms” as abolishing bail for hardened criminals.

Milwaukee’s District Attorney John Chisholm, one of a number of DAs around the country whose campaigns Mr. Soros has helped bankroll, has worked for the last 15 years to change the city’s approach to incarceration.
https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2021/nov/23/george-soros-backed-district-attorneys-are-ruining/

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Nov 24, 2021 15:22:19   #
AmericanEagle Loc: Indiana
 
permafrost wrote:
do you think some may see this as a green light to shoot down others in the street and walk away free?

to say an unarmed person was a danger when you hold an AR-15 in you hands is a real stretch..


One of the thugs had a gun pointed at Kyle and the other guy came at him with a skateboard and hit him…..both potential deadly weapons.
Kyle was trying to protect the community unlike the democratic ran cities and law-enforcement. Even scrubbing graffiti off of the walls.
So now in Georgia you have black panther groups walking around armed which is much more scary because look at their violent past, along with B*M (Burn,L**t,Murder) Yes people should be frightened when they have weapons and if they try to use the self-defense strategy because they are r****t violent and vile people.

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Nov 24, 2021 15:31:00   #
permafrost Loc: Minnesota
 
America 1 wrote:
The point is the bond was too low and he should not have been released, by another one of your favorites, Soros:
Career criminal Darrell E. Brooks Jr. has emerged as the top suspect accused of plowing his red SUV through Waukesha, Wisconsin’s annual Christmas parade on Sunday, k*****g at least five people and injuring dozens of others, including children.

But just last week, Mr. Brooks was released from Milwaukee County jail on $1,000 bail for charges including battery, domestic abuse, reckless endangerment, resisting arrest, and bail-jumping. In July of last year, Mr. Brooks was charged with reckless endangerment and possessing a firearm as a felon. In addition, he’s a registered sex offender in Nevada.

“A background check from Wisconsin’s Department of Justice came back with over 50 pages of charges against Brooks stretching back decades,” Fox News reported this week.

Should he be found culpable in Sunday’s atrocities, Mr. Brooks clearly didn’t deserve to be back on the streets of Waukesha. And yet there he was, mainly due to an approach pushed by district attorneys across the country backed by liberal billionaire financier George Soros, an approach that champions such so-called “criminal justice reforms” as abolishing bail for hardened criminals.

Milwaukee’s District Attorney John Chisholm, one of a number of DAs around the country whose campaigns Mr. Soros has helped bankroll, has worked for the last 15 years to change the city’s approach to incarceration.
https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2021/nov/23/george-soros-backed-district-attorneys-are-ruining/
The point is the bond was too low and he should no... (show quote)


You are confused... you seem to think I feel Mr. Brooks is a good guy..

I do not. I see him as a gutter snipe, no better then the shallow end of the gene pool..

But as for the bail of $1000, it seems in line with the noted offence.. what was your last bail?

We have no way to know the future.. if we did a great number of cruel things could be avoided..

And while you seem the think Good old George Soros is a superman.. the t***h is he is a fine man and a champion for human rights, not only in the US, but world wide.. He will soon be gone, but I bet you will go on about him for years..

While proper attitude for the law should be a no brainer, we do see from time to time that it seems to be a short coming for some.. just a few days ago, a Wisconsin judge demonstrated the damage that can be done when the accused is given first class status..



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