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Nov 22, 2021 16:23:22   #
rumitoid
 
microphor wrote:
I h**ed opening this today, just more of the same ole same ole. If you want to live as a socialist, move, I'll buy your f...ing ticket.


Ever so kind but unnecessary, although Sweden would be nice. Thank you.

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Nov 22, 2021 16:25:27   #
rumitoid
 
Ronald Hatt wrote:
"Oh Rummi"...Baby...get your head out of your....*#&^*

How can you be so erroneously convoluted?

What garbage you spew! You fit in so well in the *Demoncrat attempt to o*******w this republic....{ You should be proud}....{ NOT!}...


Okay, where I am "so erroneously convoluted." Educate me with some facts.

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Nov 22, 2021 16:45:06   #
rumitoid
 
dtucker300 wrote:
Maybe not, but the party leadership is socialist, the policies are socialist, and a huge majority of the socialists in America belong to the Democratic party instead of the Republicans or Independents. It doesn't matter how often you tell your Big Lie Rumi. You can't make fact out of fiction no matter how you try to spin it. You spend so much time on this topic that it is yourself that you are trying to convince, along with the small cadre of self-loathing l*****t comrades here on OPP that you are trying to convince. No one else is buying you B.S. It's a lost cause as you and your ilk, along with the evil l*****t Democrats in office, will become acutely aware of after next year's e******n.
Maybe not, but the party leadership is socialist, ... (show quote)


We have necessary social programs; that is not Socialism. Many of our elderly would be homeless, destitute, starving, dead and a financial drain on health facilities, charity food outlets for children and poor families, and a plight on our democracy without SOCIAL security. Social democracies like we see, say, in Scandinavian countries, has been recognized as the best form of government, one that feels obliged to care for all its citizens while maintaining democracy--and capitalism! Do some honest research.

Socialism defined: "a political and economic theory of social organization which advocates that the means of production, distribution, and exchange should be owned or regulated by the community as a whole." Show me evidence of that in America.

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Nov 22, 2021 16:49:59   #
rumitoid
 
Ricktloml wrote:
Not too long ago the Democrat/C*******t Party wanted to make sure the v**ers didn't realize how far left the Party had gone. Now the Democrat/C*******t Party is more and more comfortable about admitting their admiration for socialism/c*******m, at least the younger socialist/c*******t/Marxist members of Congress are.

Here's Our 70 Socialist Congressmen-women...
https://www.independentsentinel.com/heres-our-70-socialist-comgressmen


Congress Now Has More Socialist Than Ever Before in U.S....
https:// inthesetimes.com/article/democratic/socialism-dsa-aoc-bernie-sanders...

And the Democrat/C*******t Party members who want to claim they are not socialists/c*******ts/Marxists still ALWAYS support/defend/excuse/promote these socialist/c*******t/Marxist policies and agendas. They must have run some focus groups that showed Americans still don't want this kind of oppressive system and are getting nervous about Americans finding out about their real policies and agenda.
Not too long ago the Democrat/C*******t Party want... (show quote)


Do some research on what Socialism actually is. Oh, and thank you for that McCathyism site naming "70 Socialist Congressmen-women." Very enlightening as to your twisted thinking.

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Nov 22, 2021 18:05:54   #
Ricktloml
 
rumitoid wrote:
Do some research on what Socialism actually is. Oh, and thank you for that McCathyism site naming "70 Socialist Congressmen-women." Very enlightening as to your twisted thinking.


You do know that McCarthy was proven RIGHT. Ooops, can't claim that socialism/c*******m is a myth when the Congressmen/women actually proudly boast that they are socialist/c*******ts now can you. Nice try at gas-lighting with the McCarthy reference, but that's ok because it turns out McCarthy was in fact right.

C*******m--McCarthy was Right
hyyps://rense.com/politics6/mc.htm

Using new information obtained from studies of old Soviet files in Moscow now the famous Varona intercepts--FBI recordings of Soviet Embassy between 1944-48- the record is showing McCarthy was essentially right. Almost every case he charged has been proven correct.

Hurling insults because you were proven wrong. It is sad but that is the very hallmark of the left. They make false accusations, lie-get caught--insult the person who points out the lie. Standard for the left. And you have the nerve to talk about twisted. Ah well, it is to be expected.

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Nov 22, 2021 20:38:08   #
albertk
 
JR-57 wrote:
rumitoid, are you also Milosia2? Because my question was addressed to Milosia. I’m trying to better understand their posts. Based on experience, you are not worth the effort. Find someone else to annoy.


KittyKitty gets her sock puppets mixed up.

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Nov 22, 2021 21:25:13   #
EmilyD
 
JR-57 wrote:
rumitoid, are you also Milosia2? Because my question was addressed to Milosia. I’m trying to better understand their posts. Based on experience, you are not worth the effort. Find someone else to annoy.

You see, this is what's wrong with people having so many sock puppets on this forum. People have said to me "so what if someone has more than one username, just ignore it". But when you think you are having a conversation with someone, and it turns out it's not who you thought it was, it is very deceiving. I think deceit is a lie of sorts. But that's just me.

I'll probably get slammed for saying this.

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Nov 22, 2021 21:32:38   #
AuntiE Loc: 45th Least Free State
 
rumitoid wrote:
The Courier Journal
Berry Craig
Mon, November 22, 2021, 3:53 AM

Having slammed the infrastructure bill as "socialist," Republicans are serving up the same smear against the Build Back Better Act.

Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene, chair of the GOP crackpot caucus, opted for full-bore red-baiting against the infrastructure legislation. She called it "C*******t."

Biden’s whole economic agenda "is neither socialism nor Marxism. If only,” lamented socialist Kate Aronoff in The New Republic.

"The s-word has become an all-purpose epithet that Republicans use to describe everything from an influx of undocumented immigrants to the supposed teaching of critical race theory to v*****e mandates," Max Boot recently wrote in the Washington Post.

He described the GOP disingenuousness as "a rhetorical sleight of hand," explaining, "The s-word has been applied to Scandinavian-style social welfare states that are both democratic and capitalist as well as to Marxist dictatorships (e.g., the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics) that were neither democratic nor capitalist. Republicans count on their followers missing the distinction between Sweden and North Korea by trying to convince them that social welfare bills such as the Build Back Better Act will draw us closer to the latter rather than the former."

The Democrats are a capitalist party. They are moderate-to-liberal by American political standards, centrist when compared to other parties in other democracies. (In those democracies, the Trumpian GOP would be a far-right party that tilts toward white nationalism and authoritarianism.)

Anyway, Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell and House Minority Leader Kevin McCarthy know the Democrats aren't a socialist party. But they also know that pinning the socialist tail on the Democratic donkey is red meat for the red MAGA-hatted white folks.

When true-believer Trumpians of the Greene-Gosar-Gohmert-Gaetz genre shriek "socialist!" (or "c*******t!") at the Democrats, they prove just how deep they dwell in their party’s proto-f*****t fever swamps.

America is the most conservative industrial democracy on earth and the only one that doesn't have a viable socialist party. (There is a tiny and virtually unknown Socialist Party USA, which was founded in 1973.)

Democratic Western Europe is the heartland of real socialist parties. Also called social democratic or labor parties, they thrive and routinely win e******ns.

Most importantly, these parties favor parliamentary democracy and condemn c*******m and violent revolution. They're not for abolishing all private property either.

Typical is the German Social Democratic Party, which, in September e******ns, won the most seats in parliament.

"In our understanding, markets are a necessary form of economic coordination, superior to other ones," explains the party's Hamburg Programme. "However, a market left to itself is blind in social and ecological terms."

The Social Democrats favor "the strength of law to overcome the law of the strongest." To that end, they and other socialist parties support laws that safeguard worker rights, including the right to unionize, and that shield consumers and the environment against the greedy excesses inherent in unfettered red-in-tooth-and-claw capitalism, which Republicans worship as the "free enterprise system."

Socialists also champion civil, economic and political rights and individual liberties, such as free speech, a free press, and separation of church and state.

The GOP has been dissing Democrats as "socialist" at least as far back as the 1930s, the era of President Franklin D. Roosevelt's historic New Deal program in which the federal government took the lead in fighting the Great Depression.

"All of this raises some obvious questions that Republicans never seem to ask themselves: If the United States has been traveling down the road to socialism for 90 years, how come we’ve never arrived at our destination and still have a flourishing capitalist economy?" Boot also wrote. "And what makes them think that every Democratic bill will finally usher in a Marxist nightmare?"

In any event, the GOP's "socialist" sliming is another big lie from the Big Lie party.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/no-democratic-party-isnt-socialist-105311487.html
The Courier Journal br Berry Craig br Mon, Novembe... (show quote)



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Nov 22, 2021 21:34:03   #
AuntiE Loc: 45th Least Free State
 
Ricktloml wrote:
You do know that McCarthy was proven RIGHT. Ooops, can't claim that socialism/c*******m is a myth when the Congressmen/women actually proudly boast that they are socialist/c*******ts now can you. Nice try at gas-lighting with the McCarthy reference, but that's ok because it turns out McCarthy was in fact right.

C*******m--McCarthy was Right
hyyps://rense.com/politics6/mc.htm

Using new information obtained from studies of old Soviet files in Moscow now the famous Varona intercepts--FBI recordings of Soviet Embassy between 1944-48- the record is showing McCarthy was essentially right. Almost every case he charged has been proven correct.

Hurling insults because you were proven wrong. It is sad but that is the very hallmark of the left. They make false accusations, lie-get caught--insult the person who points out the lie. Standard for the left. And you have the nerve to talk about twisted. Ah well, it is to be expected.
You do know that McCarthy was proven RIGHT. Ooops,... (show quote)



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Nov 22, 2021 21:41:06   #
albertk
 
EmilyD wrote:
You see, this is what's wrong with people having so many sock puppets on this forum. People have said to me "so what if someone has more than one username, just ignore it". But when you think you are having a conversation with someone, and it turns out it's not who you thought it was, it is very deceiving. I think deceit is a lie of sorts. But that's just me.

I'll probably get slammed for saying this.


If you get slammed...it will be by the sock puppets!

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Nov 22, 2021 21:46:28   #
AuntiE Loc: 45th Least Free State
 
albertk wrote:
If you get slammed...it will be by the sock puppets!


That is certainly a personal opinion. Can you substantiate the claim?

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Nov 22, 2021 21:56:03   #
albertk
 
AuntiE wrote:
That is certainly a personal opinion. Can you substantiate the claim?


Yes, MY personal opinion! I certainly don't need to substantiate anything.
Odd for you to ask. Could you be a sock puppet?

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Nov 23, 2021 06:10:16   #
PeterS
 
Milosia2 wrote:
Nailed it!!!!
Socialism is not a bad word in Germany.
It isn’t here either, except when the masses
Try access the benefits of socialism the rich have so blatantly sequestered for themselves only. The right desperately needs the left to appear C*******tic , desperately .
This will enable their screwed up behavior of being anti c*******tic.
Otherwise they have nothing. Most of our corporations could barely survive without the Government Socialism they so readily accept on a daily basis.
But Complain when the commons ask for ….
Medicare for All.

It’s Socialism for the Rich
And F*****m for the poor.
Nailed it!!!! br Socialism is not a bad word in Ge... (show quote)

The louder they scream the more attention they get. It's the only tactic that conservatives know. It's like "Invasion of the Body Snatchers" where the infected (conservatives) scream to high heaven anytime someone who isn't infected with their slime walks by. So piss on them. We've had a mixed economy since the thirties and each time there was a change they screamed about socialism but once it was passed they were happy as little lambs. The problem with capitalism is that it doesn't work in all cases. People can't project 50 years ahead for their retirement, especially when you are a young adult which is when you should start saving. And healthcare! You can't have a system that goes to the highest bidder because, as big pharma has proven, they can just keep raising the price and people will still buy their product. Medicare for all is morally and ethically right and a healthy workforce is a benefit for the economy! And last is education. Look, if you want to pay 100K a semester there will still be plenty of private universities to go to but when I was in college during the late 70's and 80's I was paying a little over $200 a semester. Why, because that's what taxing millionaires 79% pays for, and in return, they got the best-educated workers in the world.

The wealthy own productivity so anything that makes employees more productive is a benefit to them!

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Nov 23, 2021 07:34:22   #
Big Kahuna
 
rumitoid wrote:
Ever so kind but unnecessary, although Sweden would be nice. Thank you.


Sweden has recently denounced the countries socialist agenda and are now embracing a more capitalistic system since they have realized that socialism is a failed political ideology. You need to point out another country that has fallen into the trap of socialism and using other peoples money to fund their failed political religion.

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Nov 23, 2021 07:38:24   #
Big Kahuna
 
rumitoid wrote:
Do some research on what Socialism actually is. Oh, and thank you for that McCathyism site naming "70 Socialist Congressmen-women." Very enlightening as to your twisted thinking.


Let's keep doxxing all members of Congress that are c*******ts. Doxxing is a favorite Demorat game so payback should be a b***h (like Hitlery the squad and pigloosli).

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