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Oct 21, 2021 15:31:14   #
proud republican Loc: RED CALIFORNIA
 
Do you think Supreme Court will overturn Roe V Wade?

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Oct 21, 2021 15:36:29   #
Liberty Tree
 
proud republican wrote:
Do you think Supreme Court will overturn Roe V Wade?


No, they lack the courage to do so

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Oct 21, 2021 16:29:41   #
Strycker Loc: The middle of somewhere else.
 
No. Precedent has been set and judges are not likely to overrule precedent on such a controversial subject. Especially since most Americans don't object to some limitations on elected a******ns while still maintaining some freedom of choice.

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Oct 21, 2021 16:38:37   #
proud republican Loc: RED CALIFORNIA
 
Strycker wrote:
No. Precedent has been set and judges are not likely to overrule precedent on such a controversial subject. Especially since most Americans don't object to some limitations on elected a******ns while still maintaining some freedom of choice.


So what all these Democrats are afraid off???

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Oct 21, 2021 18:27:59   #
Kevyn
 
proud republican wrote:
Do you think Supreme Court will overturn Roe V Wade?


I sort of hope so, if they do we will not see another Republican administration for a half century.

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Oct 21, 2021 21:40:24   #
Strycker Loc: The middle of somewhere else.
 
proud republican wrote:
So what all these Democrats are afraid off???


There are many conservatives that would eliminate legal a******ns completely and prosecute those who perform one or women that have one. Then there are those liberals that believe that fetuses have no life or rights up until birth. Sometimes even after birth. Both extremes always push their viewpoint. Both are afraid of the other side will succeed in pushing their viewpoint. There is no solution that would satisfy both extremes so we have a compromise that satisfies neither but which the majority in this country and around the world can accept.

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Oct 22, 2021 07:30:52   #
American Vet
 
Strycker wrote:
There are many conservatives that would eliminate legal a******ns completely and prosecute those who perform one or women that have one. Then there are those liberals that believe that fetuses have no life or rights up until birth. Sometimes even after birth. Both extremes always push their viewpoint. Both are afraid of the other side will succeed in pushing their viewpoint. There is no solution that would satisfy both extremes so we have a compromise that satisfies neither but which the majority in this country and around the world can accept.
There are many conservatives that would eliminate ... (show quote)


What do you believe would be an acceptable compromise?

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Oct 22, 2021 07:43:18   #
maryla
 
proud republican wrote:
Do you think Supreme Court will overturn Roe V Wade?


I don't know about that. They seem so lack the authority to do anything, they are so feckless!! I am however looking for one state to be able argue. I got the following from the Right to Life of MI in email."Michigan is a unique state that has had a pre-Roe v. Wade a******n ban from 1846. This a******n ban was reiterated in 1931 and then in 1973 in the post-Roe Michigan Supreme Court case People v. Bricker. Roe v. Wade preempts our law from being fully enforced today, but the 1846 ban can be fully enforced if Roe is overturned in the upcoming Dobbs v. Jackson Women's Health Organization case.

We are lucky to find ourselves in this prime position and to be so close to seeing the end of the federal government taking away the power of the states to decide on a******n laws.

It's empowering to see a number of states working off of each other to become an a******n-free country. We are hopeful that Michigan will achieve that once our a******n ban can be enforced again. We continue to encourage Texas and other states and fight for the right to life of the unborn, the elderly, the ill, and the disabled."



In other words, if Roe v Wade is overturned, many states could find themselves going back to their old laws, before Roe V Wade was forced to all states...

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Oct 22, 2021 10:46:11   #
Strycker Loc: The middle of somewhere else.
 
American Vet wrote:
What do you believe would be an acceptable compromise?


Disregarding the 10th amendment argument for now, I think Roe Vs Wade got about the best compromise currently possible for elective a******ns. Going back to back alley a******ns is not an option in my mind. Neither is prosecuting desperate women who find themselves in a difficult position. However going to no limit on all elective a******ns is not right either. Fetuses, at some point, have a right to life. The issue is what that point is. In my opinion, somewhere between 15 to 20 weeks seems to currently be a decent compromise for elective a******ns. A******n after twenty weeks should be allowed only when a women's life is in physical danger. Exceptions for mental illness is not a acceptable reason. There is more than ample time for a women to choose on how to proceed long before 20 weeks.

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Oct 22, 2021 16:41:37   #
crazylibertarian Loc: Florida by way of New York & Rhode Island
 
Kevyn wrote:
I sort of hope so, if they do we will not see another Republican administration for a half century.




You should read, if you know how, Roe vs. Wade. Even pro-a******n attorneys were appalled by it.

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Oct 22, 2021 16:43:15   #
crazylibertarian Loc: Florida by way of New York & Rhode Island
 
Strycker wrote:
Disregarding the 10th amendment argument for now, I think Roe Vs Wade got about the best compromise currently possible for elective a******ns. Going back to back alley a******ns is not an option in my mind. Neither is prosecuting desperate women who find themselves in a difficult position. However going to no limit on all elective a******ns is not right either. Fetuses, at some point, have a right to life. The issue is what that point is. In my opinion, somewhere between 15 to 20 weeks seems to currently be a decent compromise for elective a******ns. A******n after twenty weeks should be allowed only when a women's life is in physical danger. Exceptions for mental illness is not a acceptable reason. There is more than ample time for a women to choose on how to proceed long before 20 weeks.
Disregarding the 10th amendment argument for now, ... (show quote)




The number of annual deaths from a******ns during the 1960s was 250-300.

I have tried, through web searches, to find the current number of annual deaths from legal and illegal a******ns, even going right to the CDC website, and have been unable to find the figure.

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Oct 22, 2021 16:58:20   #
Strycker Loc: The middle of somewhere else.
 
crazylibertarian wrote:
The number of annual deaths from a******ns during the 1960s was 250-300.

I have tried, through web searches, to find the current number of annual deaths from legal and illegal a******ns, even going right to the CDC website, and have been unable to find the figure.


I don't know the number of actual deaths from a******ns in the 60's. I'll take your word for it. I do know a lot of women who suffered a lot of physical and emotional damage having to suffer through the process of illegal or self induced a******ns. Some I have known personally. The decisions were never easy for them but the social, emotional and physical damage was devastating.

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Oct 22, 2021 17:07:17   #
American Vet
 
Strycker wrote:
Fetuses, at some point, have a right to life. The issue is what that point is. In my opinion, somewhere between 15 to 20 weeks seems to currently be a decent compromise for elective a******ns.


Respectfully asking: And what changes at the 15 to 20 week mark occur to change it from a "fetus" to an unborn child?

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Oct 22, 2021 17:08:57   #
American Vet
 
Strycker wrote:
I don't know the number of actual deaths from a******ns in the 60's. I'll take your word for it. I do know a lot of women who suffered a lot of physical and emotional damage having to suffer through the process of illegal or self induced a******ns. Some I have known personally. The decisions were never easy for them but the social, emotional and physical damage was devastating.


I am not clear on this: Do you mean the "damage" occurred because they got an a******n?

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Oct 22, 2021 18:39:35   #
crazylibertarian Loc: Florida by way of New York & Rhode Island
 
Strycker wrote:
I don't know the number of actual deaths from a******ns in the 60's. I'll take your word for it. I do know a lot of women who suffered a lot of physical and emotional damage having to suffer through the process of illegal or self induced a******ns. Some I have known personally. The decisions were never easy for them but the social, emotional and physical damage was devastating.



And why were the social, emotional & physical damages so devastating? Answer the question & you'll likely come to some conclusions that are even tougher than the decision.

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