Now, dennis, don't think that is "exactly" what Charles is saying, and I do think alabuck has it nailed down to a "T" However, it is no secret that I am one of those "liberal" women. Sharia Law, h**e it with a passion, but here in the rural Commonwealth of VA, an awful lot of "menfolk" would really appreciate it if their women would remember to walk at least 10 steps behind the men in the deference due them, wish to keep their women barefoot and pregnant, regardless of "who" pays for their chil-run's (hyponetically here) upkeep, and have total absolute control over their womenfolk. As I have said, I despise Sharia law, but equally despise the contempt of men who believe women should rarely be seen and never heard. It just doesn't work for me.

Excellent points Al, I was also wondering why he put this entire fight in the hands of women alone, and only the liberal ones that. Considering this fight is against men committing these atrocities. I always found men influenced other men better than woman trying to.

Why is it the people who always talk about people passing the buck are the very ones doing the passing. Guess he forgot to read that book how to win friends and influence people :thumbup: You have to give them credit for being opportunist's, they always wiggle a way to put down any person or party not of their ilk. It's their agenda. Who needs to look for resolve to our real problems.
Or maybe next time he can turn to himself and say "What
can I do?"

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Maybe, American women don't feel it necessary to speak-out against Shria law because, Shira law doesn't frighten them any more than the American, reich-winger politicians who say there's no such thing as rape, or that a woman has a built-in, biological means of preventing a pregnancy after being raped. Or because American women have a larger distrust of conservatives, already trying to do what you're now clanging your alarm bell over. But, instead, you say it's ISIS that is the real enemy. Maybe American women think that the "clear and present danger" isn't on the other side of the globe, but has been inside the USA all along; only masquerading as "compassionate conservatives."

Maybe they're tired of a bunch of American men deciding what a woman can and can't do regarding the reproductive aspects of their own bodies. Maybe they think that all of your American male bluster and wringing of the hands is just a political stunt to get women to focus away from the issues at home, and instead, focus on the less relevant issues of what's occurring of the other side of the world. Maybe they think that the biggest threat to their personal rights, come from American, conservative, Republican, T-baggers and libertarians, in their own country and not from ISIS. Additionally, maybe they realize that wearing a burka is more of a cultural identity phenomenon, based on Middle Eastern and Muslim traditions, instead of being forced into it simply because they're Muslim and the Koran dictates it. Besides, not all Muslim women wear burkas. Look at Muslim women in a Turkey, Egypt, Indonesia, Lebanon, and Jordan. There are many practicing Muslim women in those countries that don't wear burkas. I've seen many Americans of the Muslim faith that don't wear burkas in public. I've worked with Muslim women that don't wear a burka, but do wear their head scarf.

Maybe, in spite of your incessant beating of war drums, American women see Dems, liberals and moderates as people more in tune to their thinking; in tune to allow them control over their own bodies; in tune to the demands that modern American society puts on women to not only raise a family on their own, but to protect it and provide for it. Maybe they see ISIS as the lesser threat to their freedoms than people in their own country, their fellow countrymen. To me, that doesn't seem like a good position for the reich-wingers to be in, politically. You know the saying, "Hell hath no fury like a woman's scorn."

Instead of treating American women in the same fashion as Shira Law does, by treating women like no more than chattel, perhaps you reich-wingers should look for ways to promote the rights of women. Ya know, it just might work, and then, you'd be closer to attaining sexual e******y in your ranks. Until then, continue your propaganda antics and scare tactics on those women who were brought up to believe that "the man always knows best how to treat his woman." I have no doubt that those tactics might get you guys 5-10% of the women e*****rate to v**e your way.

So, unlike your "we're open to invasion by ISIS," alarm, maybe the women of America think, that based on what they've heard, read and seen, coming from the reich-wingers in their own country, that they'd best keep their eyes on the likes of you. After all, many American reich-wingers like to justify their stance on how women want to be or should be treated by quoting various passages from the Bible. The use of quoting passages from the Bible, in order to justify one's political stance, has been around long before the "Moral Majority" began using it. The practice was misused then and it continues to be misused today.

Personally, I think that people who like to use that approach have some serious issues. We live in a country that has no official state religion and according to its Constitution, isn't allowed to promote one religion over another. Yet, many of our lawmakers use religion as their basis to pass laws that restrict women's rights, and, at the same time, neglect to apply those same laws to men. I also think that using quotes from the Bible to justify American women's place in society is very similar to Muslims using various portions of the Koran to dictate to their women how they must cover, use and control their bodies. Oddly, too, the rules of both religions, governing how women are treated, how to dress and how they must behave at home and in public, are often times used to deny women the same rights that you now are telling American women they will lose once Shira law comes to the US.

Of course, your propensity is to paint any and all of any particular group with the same broad brush. It might work with those credulous people who don't know better and are easily frightened and led around by the nose. Besides, given all of your bravado, you'll be around to protect your women-folk from the god-less hordes as they come, sweeping across 2 oceans, in their efforts to take over the world. In case you've not checked the numbers, there are enough guns, in the hands of the American public, to arm every one old enough to carry, MULTIPLE weapons.

At present, I doubt there will ever be an invasion of the US by ISIS. The best they can do is to initiate terrorist attacks. If you're so afraid that ISIS is already at our borders, why is Obama's asking Congressional approval to fight ISIS in Syria and Iraq? Why aren't our armed forces sitting in camps all along our Canadian and Mexican borders? If I were plan an invasion of the US, using a large force of soldiers, I'd come in across the Canadian border. It's far less patrolled. The Canadian provinces are sparsely populated and there are thousands of timbered land which can hide a small army.

I fully expect you to reply using your typical h**e-filled reich-wing rhetoric which is totally devoid of facts. You've already made it perfectly clear that you don't like the man. However, I seriously doubt your h**e of him causes him to lose any sleep at night.

Excellent points Al, I was also wondering why he put this entire fight in the hands of women alone, and only the liberal ones that. Considering this fight is against men committing these atrocities. I always found men influenced other men better than woman trying to.

Why is it the people who always talk about people passing the buck are the very ones doing the passing. Guess he forgot to read that book how to win friends and influence people :thumbup: You have to give them credit for being opportunist's, they always wiggle a way to put down any person or party not of their ilk. It's their agenda. Who needs to look for resolve to our real problems.
Or maybe next time he can turn to himself and say "What
can I do?"

They are NOT outraged because they ARE in DENIAL. I was at the WTC on 9/11 because I am a 9/11 Family. I brought a big bag with me, I must be crazy, but I honestly forgot. I had to much to carry, so I just took the bag with me. You should only know how many secret service men I had following me that day. I could hardly pay respects to my deceased family member. After the moron backpack bombers, I guess they thought I was one too. I was very calm, because I am NOT a terrorist, only a 9/11 Family who is s**k of all that is happening in our glorious nation. So many of these secret service people are LOOKING in the WRONG direction. The ONLY HOPE for America and the nations of the world is JESUS CHRIST. The Church (meaning all believers of Jesus Christ) is SLEEPING. WE ARE IN DESPERATE NEED OF A GREAT AWAKENING. If the West does not begin to fast and pray as never before, radicalism WILL increase. My heart's cry is God will have mercy on us as a nation and SEND REVIVAL.

Anyway, on my way out of the 9/11 Memorial I saw a ABC news reporter, female. She interviewed me about the Memorial. I told her it was nice but in all honesty, it was put so many stories below, as if attempting to put it out of people's minds. I also told her this enemy has now taken two of your comrades in media, and they will not stop. I told her, these people will never stop because they believe it's their turn to rule the world. Isn't it interesting how the progressive liberal, drive-by media HELPS the radical agenda and in return, they chop off their heads. When will the LEFT get it? The ONLY good infidel to Sharia is a DEAD kufr be they Jews or Christians. God please, help us. Forgive our sin, we return to you with mourning. Turn our nation back to you dear Lord and heal our land. In Jesus name.

Now, dennis, don't think that is "exactly" what Charles is saying, and I do think alabuck has it nailed down to a "T" However, it is no secret that I am one of those "liberal" women. Sharia Law, h**e it with a passion, but here in the rural Commonwealth of VA, an awful lot of "menfolk" would really appreciate it if their women would remember to walk at least 10 steps behind the men in the deference due them, wish to keep their women barefoot and pregnant, regardless of "who" pays for their chil-run's (hyponetically here) upkeep, and have total absolute control over their womenfolk. As I have said, I despise Sharia law, but equally despise the contempt of men who believe women should rarely be seen and never heard. It just doesn't work for me. If women have "no voice" here in their own country, if they are silenced, then what matter does it make if all, and I do mean ALL, find Sharia Law an a*********n.

It seems to me, you may be baiting a little bit, the "typical h**e filled reich-wing" response you expect.
In the first place, you deny and degrade opposing opinion by simply using the terminology "reich-wing." Sort of inflamatory wouldn't you think ? But of course, as a Liberal, you are traditionally an unhappy person, spoiling for a fight on anything and everything it seems. So...it is expected if not condoned... and the war continues.... name calling is the coin of the Liberals, yet the decry it's use against them.

What you seem to miss in your diatribe about invasion of "personal freedoms" is the VERY complex root argument. I do not expect you agree, but it would be helpful if you could find it within your intellectual capacity to acknowledge the simple fact that SOME people actually see this as TWO lives in question....at least in the case of "a******n rights." In the case of contraception questions, it is indeed singular, and I see no one trying to inhibit the right of any woman or man to practice a policy of preventive pregnancy. The only issue there is one of personal responsibility... You seem to take the position it is MY responsibility to fund YOUR sexual escapades and the prevention of pregnancy.
Sorry my friend... pay to play in this world.... and it is your responsibility not society's.

To the issue of Sharia specifically....I contend the only reason there is so much silence from the left on this is the conundrum of common aims thru different methods. The left is hell bent on the destruction of more's and social values in American society... so is Radical Islam. Strange bedfellows to be sure, but the aim is consistent.

No, the left in reality lives in fear of the possibility of what a successful radicalization could bring, but better to deal with the devil you know than the one you don't..... and again, the aims (short term) are the same, so "we'll deal with the other devil later" seems to be the thinking amongst your bent.

One final thought... the power of your base is not nearly as potent as you have convinced yourself. Americans are busy people, and most ignore what they consider extreme thinking from either left or right... The media is staunchly in the corner of l*****t propaganda, so the outward appearance is that there is some huge upwelling of support for the l*****t agenda.... but in t***h....the American people are center right, and can only be pushed to a point......then the backlash whips up out of seemingly no where.

Screw with kitchen table issues, and you will be like the Japanese Admiralty in WW II.... concerned a sleeping giant has been awakened.

So.... enjoy your day in the sun as it were. T***h is, no one is trying to violate any woman's real rights. The issue becomes very difficult once life is conceived....and in some people's mind, it then becomes (potentially) competing rights of individuals....... the crux of the whole issue. Even then, it is not about challenging the rights of the mother....it is about the protection and preservation of the rights of the unborn.

Complex ??? Heck yes, witness the ongoing struggle with the conscience of America. But, be t***hful for a change about what the real issue is......it has NOTHING to do with supplanting the individual rights of women.

Nasty enough to make the cut ? :-D :-D :-D

Well said, This was part of my point on Charles making this stance only with "liberal" women. It proves the disconnection many men have with women's issues. They wonder why they are losing the women's v**e.

I can't think of an American woman not being offended by this, and there are organized groups fighting it. This is a fight that has to be mostly fought by themselves as it is another country, with its own laws, religious beliefs and traditions. If they are in this country we can try and protect them as much as possible.

Searching, sorry things are so bad for women in VA. I grew up in MA and live in WA and have always considered women to be people equal to me in all respects. My wife is my best friend and partner and the purpose of our marriage is to promote and nourish both of our spiritual growth. Libs just have their ways of twisting things - like the equal pay debate - so that they get a society that is always at loggerheads with itself. Which is easy to manipulate and control.

Alabuck is a troll who parrots the Liberal Line very well indeed with all of its twists and prevarications. Justify, "female circumcision," for me and maybe then we can discuss Sharia Law as it affects women more completely.

I can't disagree with your point here
Maybe Charles should have simplified it and just said: 'Liberal women are the loudest squeaky wheels for 'womens rights.' Why aren't they squeaking about this?'
I think all Americans should be raising hell about it.
As for 'womens rights' ...tired of it
'gay rights'...tired of it
r****m...tired of it
All americans have the same rights. The squeaky wheels have now created many 'protected classes' who use their protected status to infringe on the rights of the non protected class.
Just my opinion.

I can't disagree with your point here
Maybe Charles should have simplified it and just said: 'Liberal women are the loudest squeaky wheels for 'womens rights.' Why aren't they squeaking about this?'
I think all Americans should be raising hell about it.
As for 'womens rights' ...tired of it
'gay rights'...tired of it
r****m...tired of it
All americans have the same rights. The squeaky wheels have now created many 'protected classes' who use their protected status to infringe on the rights of the non protected class.
Just my opinion.