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Sep 20, 2014 12:28:52   #
Frodo Loc: The Shire
 
alabuck wrote:
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warriorgal,
You have my sincerest sympathies over your loss on 9-11. Every one of those victims are heros. That you continue go there to honor them is most commendable. I have a 1st cousin who was in the 1st tower to be hit. By God's grace, she was able to get out, 30 minutes before the building collapsed. She's still with the same company, but has since relocated to another local.

I'll offer-up an alternate perspective about your interview. First, why would you allow yourself to be interviewed by a representitave of the "liberal media," if, as you say, it only helps to promote the "radical agenda?" Would you have said the same thing, had the newswoman been from Fox News?

I would think that, on the anniversary of 9-11, any news outlet there, was at Ground Zero to offer-up a reminder of those thousands of innocents who died at the hands of a bunch of radical Islamic jihadists. I don't think that the media or the designers of the memorial, were trying, at all, to diminish our memories of the horrors of 9-11. If that were the case, why would the press bother to be at Ground Zero at all? Why would we even have a memorial?

Are you saying that by the media being there, that the intent of the media is to diminish the signifigence of the attacks to the point of getting the public to forget about it? If so, why even bring it up by broadcasting a story about it and take the time to interview you? And, by the constant reminder, the media and the memorial is playing into the terrorist's plans?

The attack on Pearl Harbor occurred almost 73 years ago. Do you not see and/or hear a reference to it every December 7th.? How about D-Day? I see a plethora of media outlets putting out stories every June 6th. By those annual reminders, are we still assisting in Japan's efforts to gain dominance over the eastern Pacific Rim countries and Germany's attempt to dominate Europe?

I do believe that the goal of the Islamic extremists' is world domination under Shira law. What I don't believe is that it's going to happen, world-wide. You're not taking into account that by keeping the vast amount of the fighting in the Middle East, the chances are greatly diminished that there would be an invasion of the US by extremists. They, simply, don't have the capability to get a large army close to the US mainland without it being noticed by someone.

You seem to think that the Islamists WILL conquer the world. Do you really think that Russia would allow itself to be invaded and conquered by these extremists, mlitarily? Do you think that Europe would allow the same? Do you think that Canada, Mexico, and Central and South America, all, - except Canada -, highly Roman Catholic, would lose to the Islamists? Can you see China, Korea, Vietnam, New Zeland, or Australia being conquered by an ISIS-like army? I sure don't. I've said before, that ISIS/ISIL doesn't have the military capacity to attack America. The best they have would be to hit us with terrorist cell attacks.

You seem to forget that the bulk of the fighting is in Syria and Iraq. There are many other Muslim countries in the region that are not in the fight; but are letting the Islamists in Syria and Iraq fight it out between them. Should ISIS/ISIL decide to go after Saudia Arabia, that would be a fatal mistake on ISIS/ISIL's part. The same holds for them to attack Turkey & the UAE. The only reason we're even in Iraq is because Dubya wanted to go there, because Cheney had some oil interests he wanted protected; not so much to get bin Laden. Getting him would only be the cherry on the top.

I agree that there is a lot wrong in this country, but until we can put away our partisan politics, and work for the betterment of ALL Americans, of every creed, color, race, religion, or origin, nothing of any positive significance will occurr. Until we can stop looking at one another with fear and suspicion; until we can quit: thinking that ALL Americans must think, act and look alike, and until fear mongering, bearing false witness, and c***ting, are stopped, there never will be a perfect, God-fearing America again.

But, on the flip-side, America never has been perfect. We've always had our internal issues and we've always bickered among ourselves. That's how we roll. But, when confronted by outside threats, we always come together and unite to confront the common foe.

I agree, too, that asking God for favor is the right thing to do. That our country was founded on Christian "principles" is undeniable. But, it's also provable that our Founding Fathers weren't ALL in agreement as to which Christian precepts could be universally applied to the citizenry. That's one of the reasons behind the colonies, themselves, being founded; because of religious intolerance in the "Mother Country." Yet, the intolerance managed to follow the colonists here. As an example, look-up why the colony of Rhode Island was founded. Until the mid 1800's, some states did have a state religion. But since then, none have. Can you imagine having to pay taxes to support a church you didn't attend or in whose tenets you didn't believe? {This argument could be applied to the t***sfer of government funds (taxes collected) to be sent to a private religious school, today.}

As we've grown, we've absorbed people from many parts of the world. They came here with their own cultures and religions. Eventually, our culture and theirs melded to make a slightly different one. Religion is usually the last vestage of the "Old Country" to change. In fact, in most cases, it never does. That's why we have so many different houses of worship in the US. Plus, our Constitution forbids the Federal government from establishing a state religion. Nor does the Constitution allow for the government to favor one religion over another. I shudder to think how we'd be if we did have a state religion. We'd be in a constant state of civil war, only based on religion. Does that sound like what we've been reading, seeing and hearing about occurring in the Middle East? When John Kennedy became President, there were many who opposed him because they just KNEW that he'd let the Pope dictate how to run the country. Unfortunately, there are very many on this site who use the same faulty logic about Obama by saying he's a Muslim. He is a Christian. His kids were baptized in a Christian church. He attends a Christian church. For a Muslim to do any of this would warrant his being condemned and k**led. For the reich-wingers to continue to claim otherwise only shows their own ignorance.

A big part of our international problem is our belief that democracy is a form of government that everybody around the world WANTS. It's simply not true. There are many peoples that can't understand the democratic concepts of representative government, v****g and e******y for all. Culturally and/or religiously, they just can't see it and understand it. And for us to think that it's so, because it works for us and a few other nations, that the rest of the world truly desires it, is very egotistical and naive of us. It's this type of mentality on our part that has turned many other countries against us.
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Very well written post, and refreshing. I will have to cogitate as to how much I can agree or disagree, but nonetheless....very refreshing to read such a thoughtful post.





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Sep 20, 2014 14:51:33   #
True Believer
 
A lot you say Frodo I absolutely agree with. The only statement that I don't agree with is about Chaney as where is the oil???? Anyway, that is not here nor there. I have been watching the mini-series on TV concerning the Roosevelts starting with Teddy. What we are experiencing today with Obama is exactly the same thing that was going on back in the late 1800's. Of how, the democratic party was racked with fraud, deceit, and corruption. Now, I also understand who sold the American v****g public that the democrats were for the working man (naught) and the republicans were for the rich which is absolutely the opposite. Most of the wealth had been either inherited or earned by taking risks and those politicians mainly wanted and helped the people who were not well off to make a living. Remember the saying, if you feed a man and his family fish, he will eat a meal but if you teach a man to fish he will eat for a lifetime. The democrats have always been behind the big corporations and taking away from the working man what the working man has created with his own hands. If I can find the article written by Wayne Allen Root about how the GOP could really fix the problems in the USA, I will give the url for you all to read. It really makes good sense, but in my opinion, will never happen because of the greed in Washington and the want to control every human life from cradle to grave. http://personalliberty.com/save-america-create-20-million-jobs-instantly/

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Oct 1, 2014 09:23:42   #
CharlesRabb
 
Zoulou wrote:
Read a good t***slation of the Quran and then you may realize what Sharia law entails.


I have spoken and read Arabic since I was 13 yrs old and don't have to read a t***slation. Do you believe a " good t***slation" is an honest one?

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