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A Machiavellian Twist On V*****es...Those Who Are V******ted Can Infect Those Who Aren't
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Jul 29, 2021 12:23:38   #
youngwilliam Loc: Deep in the heart
 
SGM B wrote:
Im sorry for your health issues, I have several myself. I can also go to VA for the jab but I have, as you suggested “look harder” and I’m not convinced this experimental drug is safe, I’m not sure it ever will be.


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Jul 29, 2021 12:44:52   #
youngwilliam Loc: Deep in the heart
 
Singularity wrote:
The danger of the disease symptoms to those infected after being v******ted is less, as v******tion prevents the excessive immune response to the infection which results in the more deadly progression of the disease. The v******ted can still be infected and infectious to others, They just are less likely to have the more serious of the consequential symptoms themselves.

If the person they pass their germs to is not v******ted, that person could likely suffer all the more serious effects of the disease.

V******tion protects from the worst possibilities (effectively causing changes in virility, the strength to cause issues) inherent in catching the v***s. It doesn't affect t***smissability (the propensity to "freeload.") as much as classic v*****es we were used to would.

The newer delta variant has evolved to possess much higher t***smissability, but with essentially the same virulence differential between v****d vs unv****d targets who become infected.
The danger of the disease symptoms to i those inf... (show quote)


Listen to this interview with Dr. Malone. The CREATOR of M-RNA.

https://rumble.com/vkfz1v-the-v*****e-causes-the-v***s-to-be-more-dangerous.html

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Jul 29, 2021 14:37:39   #
trashbaum
 
woodguru wrote:
The science being that a v******ted person can have a larger number of v***s in their system before getting sick. I was seeing something saying that v******ted people should wear masks if they are going to be indoors around people who are not to help protect them.

I don't know, you just have to see a perverse sort of humor there. Sounds like another "reason" for the freedom loving right to freak out about v******ted people


If that were true we would have already infected the world. Demo c*******t will never stop trying to make something from nothing.

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Jul 29, 2021 15:03:02   #
youngwilliam Loc: Deep in the heart
 
trashbaum wrote:
If that were true we would have already infected the world. Demo c*******t will never stop trying to make something from nothing.


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Jul 29, 2021 15:28:55   #
EmilyD
 
woodguru wrote:
The science being that a v******ted person can have a larger number of v***s in their system before getting sick. I was seeing something saying that v******ted people should wear masks if they are going to be indoors around people who are not to help protect them.

I don't know, you just have to see a perverse sort of humor there. Sounds like another "reason" for the freedom loving right to freak out about v******ted people


That doesn't make any sense.

Where did you see or hear that science says that a v******ted person can have a larger number of v***s in their system before getting sick? If you don't have a link to that, I'm just going to assume you just made it up to make yourself feel better about getting the shot. But I don't know why that would make you feel better.... asymptomatic people can infect others.

If someone who is v******ted gets the v***s and is without symptoms longer than usual (because they don't know they have it), then they are MORE dangerous to other people, whether those people v******ted or not. They are carrying a sickness around longer than they know about, and infecting more people than if they get sick sooner and remain at home and stay away from other people.

Back in the days of Typhoid, there was a woman who was labeled "Typhoid Mary". She was a cook believed to have infected 53 people with typhoid fever, three of whom died, and the first person in the United States identified as an asymptomatic carrier of the disease.

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Jul 29, 2021 19:12:31   #
Singularity
 
EmilyD wrote:
That doesn't make any sense.

Where did you see or hear that science says that a v******ted person can have a larger number of v***s in their system before getting sick? If you don't have a link to that, I'm just going to assume you just made it up to make yourself feel better about getting the shot. But I don't know why that would make you feel better.... asymptomatic people can infect others.

If someone who is v******ted gets the v***s and is without symptoms longer than usual (because they don't know they have it), then they are MORE dangerous to other people, whether those people v******ted or not. They are carrying a sickness around longer than they know about, and infecting more people than if they get sick sooner and remain at home and stay away from other people.

Back in the days of Typhoid, there was a woman who was labeled "Typhoid Mary". She was a cook believed to have infected 53 people with typhoid fever, three of whom died, and the first person in the United States identified as an asymptomatic carrier of the disease.
That doesn't make any sense. br br Where did you ... (show quote)


Know how some families run to twin or multiple births on a genetic basis? And some just seem extra fertile for extra long? The delta branch of the C***D family propagates with both tendencies, like The Duggars, but on steroids.

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Jul 29, 2021 19:25:39   #
martsiva
 
woodguru wrote:
Masks started out being about protecting others in case you have it and didn't know...and that may continue. I have no problem wearing a mask for others...it's really not that big a frigging deal.

V******ted people getting it becomes more likely as the numbers of unv******ted people you are exposed to increases.


What?? Why do you keep harping about people getting v******ted if v******ted people still get this v***s?? Being around un-v******ted people shouldn`t affect those who are v******ted - right? You make zero sense!!

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Jul 29, 2021 19:31:51   #
Singularity
 
Singularity wrote:
Know how some families run to twin or multiple births on a genetic basis? And some just seem extra fertile for extra long? The delta branch of the C***D family propagates with both tendencies, like The Duggars, but on steroids.

Sorry not to edit and this clean up, but my eyes are bothering me. I couldn't get the copief link to go directly to the article....

Scientific American

PUBLIC HEALTH
How the Delta Variant Spreads So Quickly
V***l load is roughly 1,000 times higher in people infected with the Delta variant than those infected with the original c****av***s strain, according to a study in China

By Sara Reardon, Nature magazine on July 23, 2021
How the Delta Variant Spreads So Quickly
A health worker administers a dose of the C****-** v*****e in New Delhi, India, July 2021. Credit: Mayank Makhija Getty Images

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Since first appearing in India in late 2020, the Delta variant of SARS-CoV-2 has become the predominant strain in much of the world. Researchers might now know why Delta has been so successful: people infected with it produce far more v***s than do those infected with the original version of SARS-CoV-2, making it very easy to spread.

According to current estimates, the Delta variant could be more than twice as t***smissible as the original strain of SARS-CoV-2. To find out why, epidemiologist Jing Lu at the Guangdong Provincial Center for Disease Control and Prevention in Guangzhou, China, and his colleagues tracked 62 people who were quarantined after exposure to C****-** and who were some of the first people in mainland China to become infected with the Delta strain.

The team tested study participants’ ‘v***l load’ — a measure of the density of v***l particles in the body — every day throughout the course of infection to see how it changed over time. Researchers then compared participants’ infection patterns with those of 63 people who contracted the original SARS-CoV-2 strain in 2020.


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In a preprint posted 12 July, the researchers report that v***s was first detectable in people with the Delta variant four days after exposure,compared with an average of six days among people with the original strain, suggesting that Delta replicates much faster. Individuals infected with Delta also had v***l loads up to 1,260 times higher than those in people infected with the original strain.

The combination of a high number of v***ses and a short incubation period makes sense as an explanation for Delta’s heightened t***smissibility, says epidemiologist Benjamin Cowling at the University of Hong Kong. The sheer amount of v***s in the respiratory tract means that superspreading events are likely to infect even more people, and that people might begin spreading the v***s earlier after they become infected.

And the short incubation makes contact tracing more difficult in countries such as China, which systematically tracks each infected person’s contacts and require them to quarantine. “Putting it all together, Delta’s really difficult to stop,” Cowling says.

Genetics researcher Emma Hodcroft at the University of Bern in Switzerland agrees that the mechanism makes sense. She and Cowling both suspect that estimates of the exact difference in v***l load between Delta and the original strain are likely to shift as more scientists study the v***s in various populations.

A number of other questions about the Delta variant remain unanswered. It’s still unclear, for instance, whether it is more likely to cause severe disease than the original strain, and how good it is at evading the i****e s****m. Hodcroft expects some of this information will emerge as researchers look more closely at broader and more diverse populations of people infected with Delta and other variants. “This v***s has surprised us,” she says.

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This article is reproduced with permission and was first published on July 21 2021.

ABOUT THE AUTHOR(S)
Sara Reardon is a freelance journalist based in Bozeman, Mont. She is a former staff reporter at Nature, New Scientist and Science and has a master's degree in molecular biology."

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Jul 29, 2021 19:49:43   #
Singularity
 
martsiva wrote:
What?? Why do you keep harping about people getting v******ted if v******ted people still get this v***s?? Being around un-v******ted people shouldn`t affect those who are v******ted - right? You make zero sense!!


V******ted people don't seem to get as sick with the Delta variant, if they get a breakthrough, thus die less often. Not sure if this is because they have tended to be younger or possible unknown other reasons. They are healthy enough to do the Typhoid Mary routine for sure. Down to denying or not understanding they are even doing it.

https://youtu.be/vG1lI1PxraI

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Jul 29, 2021 20:30:33   #
EmilyD
 
Singularity wrote:
Know how some families run to twin or multiple births on a genetic basis? And some just seem extra fertile for extra long? The delta branch of the C***D family propagates with both tendencies, like The Duggars, but on steroids.


I don't see the correlation between how multiple births via IVF and natural birth has anything to do with how long a v***s is asymptomatic? Asymptomatic people are just as infectious, and in some studies are more infectious, than symptomatic people. But what does that have to do with how twins are born?

There was no discussion about the Delta variant in the topic my post was responding to.

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Jul 29, 2021 20:50:53   #
EmilyD
 
Singularity wrote:
V******ted people don't seem to get as sick with the Delta variant, if they get a breakthrough, thus die less often. Not sure if this is because they have tended to be younger or possible unknown other reasons. They are healthy enough to do the Typhoid Mary routine for sure. Down to denying or not understanding they are even doing it.

https://youtu.be/vG1lI1PxraI


I thought the current gene therapy inoculations wouldn't work with the Delta strain....that it needed it's own "v*****e" because even though it is a variant of C***d, its molecular makeup is different.

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Jul 29, 2021 23:53:49   #
trashbaum
 
EmilyD wrote:
That doesn't make any sense.

Where did you see or hear that science says that a v******ted person can have a larger number of v***s in their system before getting sick? If you don't have a link to that, I'm just going to assume you just made it up to make yourself feel better about getting the shot. But I don't know why that would make you feel better.... asymptomatic people can infect others.

If someone who is v******ted gets the v***s and is without symptoms longer than usual (because they don't know they have it), then they are MORE dangerous to other people, whether those people v******ted or not. They are carrying a sickness around longer than they know about, and infecting more people than if they get sick sooner and remain at home and stay away from other people.

Back in the days of Typhoid, there was a woman who was labeled "Typhoid Mary". She was a cook believed to have infected 53 people with typhoid fever, three of whom died, and the first person in the United States identified as an asymptomatic carrier of the disease.
That doesn't make any sense. br br Where did you ... (show quote)


People who are v******ted cannot carry the v***s, I had C***D and test positive for c***d-antibodies, which means I cannot carry the v***s. Being v******ted prevents you from carrying the v***s.

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Jul 30, 2021 01:01:26   #
youngwilliam Loc: Deep in the heart
 
trashbaum wrote:
People who are v******ted cannot carry the v***s, I had C***D and test positive for c***d-antibodies, which means I cannot carry the v***s. Being v******ted prevents you from carrying the v***s.


V******ted people can contract and t***smit the v***s as well as unvaxed persons.

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Jul 30, 2021 03:56:34   #
Singularity
 
Tonight...





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Jul 30, 2021 05:53:10   #
youngwilliam Loc: Deep in the heart
 
Singularity wrote:
Tonight...


Headline is BS. Rest is true.

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