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Hawking concludes with his most direct, personal answer to the universal question:
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Jul 28, 2021 09:54:56   #
keepuphope Loc: Idaho
 
Parky60 wrote:
Well he knows now doesn't he? And unfortunately for him, he was wrong and he has eternity to regret it.


Yes it is sad. When man in his arrogance thinks he's figured out everything he is then the stupidest he's ever been since he could form thoughts.

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Jul 28, 2021 10:01:55   #
keepuphope Loc: Idaho
 
Blade_Runner wrote:
“Fact” in a scientific context is a generally accepted reality (but still open to scientific inquiry, as opposed to an absolute t***h, which is not, and hence not a part of science). Hypotheses and theories are generally based on objective inferences, unlike opinions, which are generally based on subjective influences.

A scientific theory is a well-substantiated explanation of some aspect of the natural world, based on a body of facts that have been repeatedly confirmed through observation and experiment. Such fact-supported theories are not “guesses” but reliable accounts of the real world.

Scientific evidence is evidence that serves to either support or counter a scientific theory or hypothesis. Such evidence is expected to be empirical evidence and interpretable in accordance with scientific method.

Scientific evidence relies on data, and it is crucial for researchers to ensure that the data they collect is representative of the “true” situation. This means using proved or appropriate ways of collecting and analyzing the data and ensuring the research is conducted ethically and safely.

The fundamental metaphysical principle that has been recognized down through history is that something cannot come from nothing;

Aristotle put it that being only arises from being, it doesn't come from non-being.

Nothing can begin to exist, or come into physical existence without a cause.

Something that is caused to exist has a purpose.

A purpose for something to exist suggests an intelligence caused it to exist.

An intelligence with a purpose to cause something to exist is not part of that which it caused to exist.

The universe and the life within it exists, therefore something caused it, and the cause had a purpose for creating it.


The Planck scale is the universal limit, beyond which the currently known laws of science break down. The basic Planck units are length, mass, temperature, time and charge.

The intelligence that caused something to exist is not detectable by any laws of science. It cannot be observed or quantified by any law of science. The word we use is "Spiritual".

The spiritual transcends the physical universe.

IOW, you cannot do a biopsy on the body of God, put it under an electron microscope, or run it through a CAT scan, or hook it up to an EEG in order to gather empirical evidential data. You cannot pound a chunk of God into pieces and study the geology of a transcendent being. You cannot saw off a branch of God and study His growth rings. You cannot weigh God, measure His heart rate, His blood pressure, His respiratory response, and other vital signs. You cannot psychoanalyze God or decode His DNA.

Put simply, in order to find evidence of God's existence, you have to go where the evidence exists, which is in the spiritual realm beyond the physical nature of the existing universe.

God, the Creator, the Intelligence, and the Cause of all that exists in the physical universe is an Absolute t***h and therefore is not available to and cannot be interpreted or observed by the laws of science.
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Blade well done.

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Jul 28, 2021 13:25:54   #
The Ms.
 
Milosia2 wrote:
Hawking concludes with his most direct, personal answer to the universal question:

It’s my view that the simplest explanation is that there is no God. No one created the universe and no one directs our fate. This leads me to a profound realisation: there is probably no heaven and afterlife either. I think belief in an afterlife is just wishful thinking. There is no reliable evidence for it, and it flies in the face of everything we know in science. I think that when we die we return to dust. But there’s a sense in which we live on, in our influence, and in our genes that we pass on to our children. We have this one life to appreciate the grand design of the universe, and for that I am extremely grateful.
-Steven Hawking-
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That free will thing….. we each follow our own path….. I have to wonder what he said when he died…..

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Jul 28, 2021 13:45:37   #
fullspinzoo
 
Milosia2 wrote:
Hawking concludes with his most direct, personal answer to the universal question:

It’s my view that the simplest explanation is that there is no God. No one created the universe and no one directs our fate. This leads me to a profound realisation: there is probably no heaven and afterlife either. I think belief in an afterlife is just wishful thinking. There is no reliable evidence for it, and it flies in the face of everything we know in science. I think that when we die we return to dust. But there’s a sense in which we live on, in our influence, and in our genes that we pass on to our children. We have this one life to appreciate the grand design of the universe, and for that I am extremely grateful.
-Steven Hawking-
Hawking concludes with his most direct, personal a... (show quote)


Could anybody guess she was an atheist after her third post?

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Jul 28, 2021 15:12:29   #
SouthernBelle Loc: Under the Dome
 
Milosia2 wrote:
Science is based on Facts.


Unless you are Dr. Fauxci! With him, "science" is wh**ever HE says it is!

<snark>

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Jul 28, 2021 15:30:34   #
fullspinzoo
 
SouthernBelle wrote:
Unless you are Dr. Fauxci! With him, "science" is wh**ever HE says it is!

<snark>


I like the "Faux". My exact sentiments.

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Jul 28, 2021 15:32:17   #
SouthernBelle Loc: Under the Dome
 
Blade_Runner...

I give thee a STANDING OVATION!!!

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Jul 28, 2021 15:35:15   #
Wonttakeitanymore
 
Milosia2 wrote:
Hawking concludes with his most direct, personal answer to the universal question:

It’s my view that the simplest explanation is that there is no God. No one created the universe and no one directs our fate. This leads me to a profound realisation: there is probably no heaven and afterlife either. I think belief in an afterlife is just wishful thinking. There is no reliable evidence for it, and it flies in the face of everything we know in science. I think that when we die we return to dust. But there’s a sense in which we live on, in our influence, and in our genes that we pass on to our children. We have this one life to appreciate the grand design of the universe, and for that I am extremely grateful.
-Steven Hawking-
Hawking concludes with his most direct, personal a... (show quote)


I guess when you see him you can ask!!! If you don’t believe in God what you got to worry about? Except he’s real and so is hell!

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Jul 28, 2021 15:35:54   #
Wonttakeitanymore
 
Milosia2 wrote:
Science is based on Facts.


Theory sweetie! God is real and that’s a fact!

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Jul 28, 2021 15:51:17   #
keepuphope Loc: Idaho
 
Wonttakeitanymore wrote:
Theory sweetie! God is real and that’s a fact!



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Jul 28, 2021 16:08:28   #
Truth be known
 
Milosia2 wrote:
You won’t be seeing me in your eternity.
You cannot prove I am wrong. Merely an opinion. I have no regrets.
Well maybe one or two but not today.
You seem to be about a half step away from standing on a box downtown preaching the gospel to any who will listen.
It always seems so lofty of the righteous to be looking down on creation casting asparaguses on the rest of us.
You are no more righteous in gods kingdom than you think you are right here and now.


I'm not a Church going person, but I have a question for you to answer: How did you get here?

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Jul 28, 2021 19:32:48   #
One Patriot
 
Milosia2 wrote:
Science is based on Facts.


Really? So basically what you are saying is that you are nothing more than a shaved ape? Well that explains some of the stupid things you say/type!

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Jul 28, 2021 19:41:05   #
One Patriot
 
Milosia2 wrote:
You won’t be seeing me in your eternity.
You cannot prove I am wrong. Merely an opinion. I have no regrets.
Well maybe one or two but not today.
You seem to be about a half step away from standing on a box downtown preaching the gospel to any who will listen.
It always seems so lofty of the righteous to be looking down on creation casting asparaguses on the rest of us.
You are no more righteous in gods kingdom than you think you are right here and now.


This is where I stand! Take it as a grain of salt, if you will. I would rather believe in God and be wrong then not believe in God and be wrong.

Having said that little bit of wisdom. I have to say; I know in my heart that there is a God and I know that Jesus is God’s only begotten son.

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Jul 28, 2021 21:09:12   #
The Ms.
 
One Patriot wrote:
This is where I stand! Take it as a grain of salt, if you will. I would rather believe in God and be wrong then not believe in God and be wrong.

Having said that little bit of wisdom. I have to say; I know in my heart that there is a God and I know that Jesus is God’s only begotten son.


One Patriot, I second your take! I know GOD….. he saved me more times than I can count!!!!! Very sad that people insist he doesn’t exist. I once read…..GOD is the most lonely soul in the Universe…..

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Jul 28, 2021 22:15:17   #
Antisquad2021 Loc: Brooklyn, NY
 
The Ms. wrote:
One Patriot, I second your take! I know GOD….. he saved me more times than I can count!!!!! Very sad that people insist he doesn’t exist. I once read…..GOD is the most lonely soul in the Universe…..


Belief in God is a matter of faith, either you have it or you don't. Jesus has saved me more times than I can think of, especially from myself so yeah I'm a believer. I was also raised roman catholic,, but I am not a holy roller. I usually keep this to myself. I appreciate speaking out loud about this rather sensitive topic.

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