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Jul 20, 2021 18:27:18   #
son of witless
 
older and wiser wrote:
Just livin the dream


This is not the first time he has said something odd and never answered when I questioned him.

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Jul 20, 2021 18:49:55   #
older and wiser
 
son of witless wrote:
This is not the first time he has said something odd and never answered when I questioned him.


Keep drinking the cool aid and your problems will all go away!

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Jul 20, 2021 20:05:01   #
martsiva
 
Milosia2 wrote:
Perfect ! Dwindling w***e s*******y !


What in the hell has w***e s*******y have to do with people not wanting their taxes used for a******ns when they disagree with it?? What a total asinine comment!! Do you runaround with a sign that says 'I am a r****t'?? You should because your stupid comment proves it!! Like the good little r****t Democrat that you are, you just can`t help yourself from race baiting! Go ahead and make a fool of yourself and deny it!!!!!

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Jul 20, 2021 20:10:17   #
martsiva
 
Milosia2 wrote:
Social democracy. Is somewhere in the middle. Not all capitalist not all socialist.
A fair mid ground where all can be involved and profit.
Lincoln said there should be ascendancy of
Labor over Capital.
I agree.
You work , you eat.
Who should work and who should eat ?


No - there is no middle ground when it comes to socialism because some people have to do all working and paying for it!!

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Jul 20, 2021 20:15:40   #
son of witless
 
martsiva wrote:
What in the hell has w***e s*******y have to do with people not wanting their taxes used for a******ns when they disagree with it?? What a total asinine comment!! Do you runaround with a sign that says 'I am a r****t'?? You should because your stupid comment proves it!! Like the good little r****t Democrat that you are, you just can`t help yourself from race baiting! Go ahead and make a fool of yourself and deny it!!!!!


milosia needs to brand people he disagrees with as r****t.

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Jul 20, 2021 20:15:44   #
martsiva
 
Milosia2 wrote:
If in the past things were handled like the botched job of the big lie , how can anything survive that?
You are assuming things were similar in the past .
The constitution offers personal responsibilities along with personal discipline to achieve their goals.
Is this what we have today ?


So you actually believe that this time around socialism will work better than it did in the past?? Are you serious?? Socialism is the same no matter where or when and doesn`t change!

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Jul 20, 2021 20:22:50   #
martsiva
 
Milosia2 wrote:
I personally fail to see any Marxism in my future. I am amazed that you are able to.


You support Marxism when you support Marxist Democrats ! What - you will deny that Democrats support Marxism??

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Jul 20, 2021 20:32:47   #
martsiva
 
Milosia2 wrote:
Sharing the wealth of a country with its citizens is not c*******tic or Marxist or any other crap you’re trying to sell.
If daddy has a good job the family does well also.
Why is that so hard for the greedy aholes to comprehend?
It isn’t Marxist , c*******tic or anything other than a country rewarding it’s citizens for working to accomplish a wealthy nation.
Today we have a greedy faction that believes everything done in this country is done for them only. And should not be shared with any lower classes than theirs.
Call it what you want. My interpretation of
“Of the People , By the People, For the People!”
Is self explanatory.
Sharing the wealth of a country with its citizens ... (show quote)


Oh yes it is c*******m when the state wants total control of people`s money! You bring up rewarding citizens when that reward is taken from others who have worked for their money and gives it to those who have not! That is called theft and is socialism and c*******m to the core! Many have started in the 'lower classes' but worked hard to bring themselves out of that class! Now you think that hard work should be a reward to others who will not do the same! You have proven that you support oppressive c*******m!!!!!

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Jul 20, 2021 20:34:54   #
martsiva
 
Milosia2 wrote:
The Anti-Family Party
by Robert Reich | July 19, 2021 - 5:52am

— from Robert Reich's Blog

Last Thursday, 39 million American parents began receiving a monthly child allowance ($300 per child under 6, and $250 per child from 6 through 17). It’s the biggest helping hand to American families in more than 85 years.

They need it. Even before the p******c, child poverty had reached post-war records. Even non-poor families were in trouble, burdened with deepening debt and missed payments. Most were living paycheck to paycheck – so if they lost a job, they and their kids could be plunged into poverty. It’s estimated that the new monthly child allowance will cut child poverty by more than half.

But every single Republican in both the House and Senate v**ed against the measure.

After I posted a tweet reminding people of this indisputable fact, Republican Senator Mike Lee of Utah responded Friday with a perfectly bizarre tweet: “If you’re one of the 39 million households receiving their first Child Tax Credit payment today, don’t forget that every single Democrat v**ed against making it larger.”

Hello? Did we just go through the funhouse mirror?

In point of fact, when the American Rescue Plan was being debated last February, Lee and Senator Marco Rubio did propose slightly larger payments. But here’s the rub: They wanted to restrict them only to “working parents.” Children of the unemployed would be out of luck. Yet those kids are the poorest of the poor. They’re most at risk of being hungry without a roof over their heads.

In a joint press release at the time, Lee and Rubio said they refused to support what they termed “welfare assistance” to jobless parents, warning against undercutting “the responsibility of parents to work to provide for their families.” Then Lee, Rubio, and every other Republican v**ed against the whole shebang – help for working and non-working parents. And now Lee wants to take credit for wanting to make the payments larger to begin with? Talk about both sides of the mouth.

As we move toward the gravitational pull of the midterm e******ns – and polls show how popular the monthly child payments are – I expect other Republicans to make the same whopper of a claim.

But underneath this hypocritical Republican rubbish lie two important questions. The first: will a payment of up to $300 per child every month – totaling up to $3,600 per child per year – invite parents to become couch potatoes?

That seems doubtful. Even a family with three kids under six would receive no more than $10,800 a year. That’s way below what’s needed to pay even subsistence expenses, and still far below what a full-time job at the federal minimum wage would pull in.

But even if the payment caused some parents to work a bit less, it’s far from clear their children are worse off as a result. Maybe they benefit from additional parenting time.

Which only raises a second question: should children be penalized because their parents aren’t working, or are working less than they would without the child payment?

This question has been debated in America for many years – ever since Franklin D. Roosevelt first provided “Aid for Families with Dependent Children” (AFDC) in the Social Security Act of 1935.

It can’t be decided based on facts; it comes down to values. We know, for example, that child poverty soared after Bill Clinton and congressional Republicans ended AFDC in 1996 and substituted a work requirement. Many people – myself included – look back on that decision as a horrible mistake.

But many of its proponents call it a success because it resulted in additional numbers of poor adults getting jobs and thereby setting good examples for their children of personal responsibility. In the view of these proponents, a country where more parents take responsibility to provide for their children is worth the collateral damage of a greater number of impoverished children.

Since the 1990s, the Republican view that public assistance should be limited to families with breadwinners has taken firm hold in America. Only now, with the American Rescue Plan – put into effect during the worst public health crisis in more than a century and one of the fiercest periods of unemployment since World War II – has that view been rejected in favor of a universal family benefit.

It’s too early to know whether this about-face is permanent. The Act’s payments will end a year from now unless Congress passes Biden’s proposed $3.5 trillion addition. Almost every Senate Democrat has signaled a willingness to go along. But here again, not a single Senate Republican has signed on.

Let’s be clear. Mike Lee’s Republican Party – the putative party of “family values” – doesn’t support needy families. It supports a pinched and, in these perilous times, unrealistic view of personal responsibility – children be damned.
The Anti-Family Party br by Robert Reich | July 19... (show quote)


The 'anti-family' are those who k**l their own!! What a bunch of garbage!

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Jul 20, 2021 21:12:24   #
One Patriot
 
Milosia2 wrote:
Which family was ever started by two young people who could afford it ?
If families were only started by people who could afford it , we wouldn’t need churches at all.
Comprenpas ?


This is one of the stupidest things you’ve said/typed, and that is saying a lot!

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Jul 20, 2021 21:16:08   #
Milosia2 Loc: Cleveland Ohio
 
son of witless wrote:
Who decides that someone is making too much money ? You ? Will you only take it from Gates, Musk, Bezos, Zuckerberg, and Buffet ? Of course not. Those are only the poster boys for your power grab.

You don't know anything. Those $ Cabillionaires are only the scapegoats for the power grab. This is about the government controlling more and more of the economy. This is about control control control.

I really couldn't care less about whether you guys steal all of Gates and Buffet's Billions. Go ahead and try. You won't get it, but you will take over control from the rest of us. Your party always says they will only tax the rich.

That is always always a lie. Somehow the rest of us always get our taxes raised, while the rich just go into tax shelters. Then when Republicans take over they reverse your harmful high taxes and the cycle repeats itself.
Who decides that someone is making too much money ... (show quote)


As I see it, giving money to billionaires is the equivalent of piling more dirt on dead people. It benefits neither.
Should Bezos be able to spend this country’s wealth as he sees fit, at the detriment of this country. We are expected to play by rules but they are not.
The amount of this treasury’s money in the hands of billionaires could sink your whole boat in a swift and easy stroke.
Why are we afraid to confront these aholes. Is what I don’t understand.
Fly me up I’ll do it !!!!!!!

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Jul 20, 2021 21:44:21   #
son of witless
 
Milosia2 wrote:
As I see it, giving money to billionaires is the equivalent of piling more dirt on dead people. It benefits neither.
Should Bezos be able to spend this country’s wealth as he sees fit, at the detriment of this country. We are expected to play by rules but they are not.
The amount of this treasury’s money in the hands of billionaires could sink your whole boat in a swift and easy stroke.
Why are we afraid to confront these aholes. Is what I don’t understand.
Fly me up I’ll do it !!!!!!!
As I see it, giving money to billionaires is the e... (show quote)


You never answered my question. " Will you only take it from Gates, Musk, Bezos, Zuckerberg, and Buffet ? "

You don't h**e just those $ Billionaires. You h**e anyone who has a penny more than you.

Class envy doesn't work. Ask the people of Cuba, Venezuela, and Chicago.

Again, go after Bezos. I dare you. His tax lawyers will defeat everything you can think up. All you will do is force his money into tax shelters. Besides right now he is a media darling. He made peace with the grievance groups by flying that 82 year old woman Astronaut who got screwed over back in the 60s, into space.

If you really want to hurt Bezos, figure a way to help his competitors. Stop buying crap from Amazon.

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Jul 21, 2021 01:52:01   #
debeda
 
Milosia2 wrote:
The Anti-Family Party
by Robert Reich | July 19, 2021 - 5:52am

— from Robert Reich's Blog

Last Thursday, 39 million American parents began receiving a monthly child allowance ($300 per child under 6, and $250 per child from 6 through 17). It’s the biggest helping hand to American families in more than 85 years.

They need it. Even before the p******c, child poverty had reached post-war records. Even non-poor families were in trouble, burdened with deepening debt and missed payments. Most were living paycheck to paycheck – so if they lost a job, they and their kids could be plunged into poverty. It’s estimated that the new monthly child allowance will cut child poverty by more than half.

But every single Republican in both the House and Senate v**ed against the measure.

After I posted a tweet reminding people of this indisputable fact, Republican Senator Mike Lee of Utah responded Friday with a perfectly bizarre tweet: “If you’re one of the 39 million households receiving their first Child Tax Credit payment today, don’t forget that every single Democrat v**ed against making it larger.”

Hello? Did we just go through the funhouse mirror?

In point of fact, when the American Rescue Plan was being debated last February, Lee and Senator Marco Rubio did propose slightly larger payments. But here’s the rub: They wanted to restrict them only to “working parents.” Children of the unemployed would be out of luck. Yet those kids are the poorest of the poor. They’re most at risk of being hungry without a roof over their heads.

In a joint press release at the time, Lee and Rubio said they refused to support what they termed “welfare assistance” to jobless parents, warning against undercutting “the responsibility of parents to work to provide for their families.” Then Lee, Rubio, and every other Republican v**ed against the whole shebang – help for working and non-working parents. And now Lee wants to take credit for wanting to make the payments larger to begin with? Talk about both sides of the mouth.

As we move toward the gravitational pull of the midterm e******ns – and polls show how popular the monthly child payments are – I expect other Republicans to make the same whopper of a claim.

But underneath this hypocritical Republican rubbish lie two important questions. The first: will a payment of up to $300 per child every month – totaling up to $3,600 per child per year – invite parents to become couch potatoes?

That seems doubtful. Even a family with three kids under six would receive no more than $10,800 a year. That’s way below what’s needed to pay even subsistence expenses, and still far below what a full-time job at the federal minimum wage would pull in.

But even if the payment caused some parents to work a bit less, it’s far from clear their children are worse off as a result. Maybe they benefit from additional parenting time.

Which only raises a second question: should children be penalized because their parents aren’t working, or are working less than they would without the child payment?

This question has been debated in America for many years – ever since Franklin D. Roosevelt first provided “Aid for Families with Dependent Children” (AFDC) in the Social Security Act of 1935.

It can’t be decided based on facts; it comes down to values. We know, for example, that child poverty soared after Bill Clinton and congressional Republicans ended AFDC in 1996 and substituted a work requirement. Many people – myself included – look back on that decision as a horrible mistake.

But many of its proponents call it a success because it resulted in additional numbers of poor adults getting jobs and thereby setting good examples for their children of personal responsibility. In the view of these proponents, a country where more parents take responsibility to provide for their children is worth the collateral damage of a greater number of impoverished children.

Since the 1990s, the Republican view that public assistance should be limited to families with breadwinners has taken firm hold in America. Only now, with the American Rescue Plan – put into effect during the worst public health crisis in more than a century and one of the fiercest periods of unemployment since World War II – has that view been rejected in favor of a universal family benefit.

It’s too early to know whether this about-face is permanent. The Act’s payments will end a year from now unless Congress passes Biden’s proposed $3.5 trillion addition. Almost every Senate Democrat has signaled a willingness to go along. But here again, not a single Senate Republican has signed on.

Let’s be clear. Mike Lee’s Republican Party – the putative party of “family values” – doesn’t support needy families. It supports a pinched and, in these perilous times, unrealistic view of personal responsibility – children be damned.
The Anti-Family Party br by Robert Reich | July 19... (show quote)


The biggest helping hand to families was the earned income credit instituted by president Reagan 35 years ago

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