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Jul 20, 2021 14:05:46   #
Milosia2 Loc: Cleveland Ohio
 
nwtk2007 wrote:
Lololol!!!!!!!


No the cost to you individually and collectively us .40 cents
Collectively.
So even if we asked everyone else but you to give we would only be short .40 cents

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Jul 20, 2021 14:19:32   #
Rose42
 
Milosia2 wrote:
Would corporations be for or against a******ns ?
There is plenty I don’t understand but there is a lot that I do.
You are all messed up is not much of a rebuke.


I wasn’t rebuking merely pointing out there is much you don’t understand and that may be because like many on the right you rely on propaganda pushers.

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Jul 20, 2021 14:35:59   #
Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON
 
Milosia2 wrote:
**…a moral principle as a foundation, **

Morals are not legislated. Crimes against citizens are legislated.

It is upon moral principles that laws are legislated.
A moral principle is based upon the value of human life.
Even a posted speed limit has a moral principle behind it, it is intended to prevent people in vehicles from accidentally k*****g themselves and others and destroying property.

Thou shall not murder is a moral principle. Murder of another human being is a crime.

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Jul 20, 2021 17:00:48   #
Sonny Magoo Loc: Where pot pie is boiled in a kettle
 
I must admit...thought out,very well...for a 10 year old

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Jul 20, 2021 17:54:31   #
Weasel Loc: In the Great State Of Indiana!!
 
Milosia2 wrote:
The Anti-Family Party
by Robert Reich | July 19, 2021 - 5:52am

— from Robert Reich's Blog

Last Thursday, 39 million American parents began receiving a monthly child allowance ($300 per child under 6, and $250 per child from 6 through 17). It’s the biggest helping hand to American families in more than 85 years.

They need it. Even before the p******c, child poverty had reached post-war records. Even non-poor families were in trouble, burdened with deepening debt and missed payments. Most were living paycheck to paycheck – so if they lost a job, they and their kids could be plunged into poverty. It’s estimated that the new monthly child allowance will cut child poverty by more than half.

But every single Republican in both the House and Senate v**ed against the measure.

After I posted a tweet reminding people of this indisputable fact, Republican Senator Mike Lee of Utah responded Friday with a perfectly bizarre tweet: “If you’re one of the 39 million households receiving their first Child Tax Credit payment today, don’t forget that every single Democrat v**ed against making it larger.”

Hello? Did we just go through the funhouse mirror?

In point of fact, when the American Rescue Plan was being debated last February, Lee and Senator Marco Rubio did propose slightly larger payments. But here’s the rub: They wanted to restrict them only to “working parents.” Children of the unemployed would be out of luck. Yet those kids are the poorest of the poor. They’re most at risk of being hungry without a roof over their heads.

In a joint press release at the time, Lee and Rubio said they refused to support what they termed “welfare assistance” to jobless parents, warning against undercutting “the responsibility of parents to work to provide for their families.” Then Lee, Rubio, and every other Republican v**ed against the whole shebang – help for working and non-working parents. And now Lee wants to take credit for wanting to make the payments larger to begin with? Talk about both sides of the mouth.

As we move toward the gravitational pull of the midterm e******ns – and polls show how popular the monthly child payments are – I expect other Republicans to make the same whopper of a claim.

But underneath this hypocritical Republican rubbish lie two important questions. The first: will a payment of up to $300 per child every month – totaling up to $3,600 per child per year – invite parents to become couch potatoes?

That seems doubtful. Even a family with three kids under six would receive no more than $10,800 a year. That’s way below what’s needed to pay even subsistence expenses, and still far below what a full-time job at the federal minimum wage would pull in.

But even if the payment caused some parents to work a bit less, it’s far from clear their children are worse off as a result. Maybe they benefit from additional parenting time.

Which only raises a second question: should children be penalized because their parents aren’t working, or are working less than they would without the child payment?

This question has been debated in America for many years – ever since Franklin D. Roosevelt first provided “Aid for Families with Dependent Children” (AFDC) in the Social Security Act of 1935.

It can’t be decided based on facts; it comes down to values. We know, for example, that child poverty soared after Bill Clinton and congressional Republicans ended AFDC in 1996 and substituted a work requirement. Many people – myself included – look back on that decision as a horrible mistake.

But many of its proponents call it a success because it resulted in additional numbers of poor adults getting jobs and thereby setting good examples for their children of personal responsibility. In the view of these proponents, a country where more parents take responsibility to provide for their children is worth the collateral damage of a greater number of impoverished children.

Since the 1990s, the Republican view that public assistance should be limited to families with breadwinners has taken firm hold in America. Only now, with the American Rescue Plan – put into effect during the worst public health crisis in more than a century and one of the fiercest periods of unemployment since World War II – has that view been rejected in favor of a universal family benefit.

It’s too early to know whether this about-face is permanent. The Act’s payments will end a year from now unless Congress passes Biden’s proposed $3.5 trillion addition. Almost every Senate Democrat has signaled a willingness to go along. But here again, not a single Senate Republican has signed on.

Let’s be clear. Mike Lee’s Republican Party – the putative party of “family values” – doesn’t support needy families. It supports a pinched and, in these perilous times, unrealistic view of personal responsibility – children be damned.
The Anti-Family Party br by Robert Reich | July 19... (show quote)


The true Crackpot is Joey Babbie and his family plan...
https://youtu.be/wEdL5tdJ7ps

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Jul 20, 2021 17:56:07   #
son of witless
 
Milosia2 wrote:
No the cost to you individually and collectively us .40 cents
Collectively.
So even if we asked everyone else but you to give we would only be short .40 cents


Prove it.

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Jul 20, 2021 18:10:00   #
older and wiser
 
Milosia2 wrote:
The Anti-Family Party
by Robert Reich | July 19, 2021 - 5:52am

— from Robert Reich's Blog

Last Thursday, 39 million American parents began receiving a monthly child allowance ($300 per child under 6, and $250 per child from 6 through 17). It’s the biggest helping hand to American families in more than 85 years.

They need it. Even before the p******c, child poverty had reached post-war records. Even non-poor families were in trouble, burdened with deepening debt and missed payments. Most were living paycheck to paycheck – so if they lost a job, they and their kids could be plunged into poverty. It’s estimated that the new monthly child allowance will cut child poverty by more than half.

But every single Republican in both the House and Senate v**ed against the measure.

After I posted a tweet reminding people of this indisputable fact, Republican Senator Mike Lee of Utah responded Friday with a perfectly bizarre tweet: “If you’re one of the 39 million households receiving their first Child Tax Credit payment today, don’t forget that every single Democrat v**ed against making it larger.”

Hello? Did we just go through the funhouse mirror?

In point of fact, when the American Rescue Plan was being debated last February, Lee and Senator Marco Rubio did propose slightly larger payments. But here’s the rub: They wanted to restrict them only to “working parents.” Children of the unemployed would be out of luck. Yet those kids are the poorest of the poor. They’re most at risk of being hungry without a roof over their heads.

In a joint press release at the time, Lee and Rubio said they refused to support what they termed “welfare assistance” to jobless parents, warning against undercutting “the responsibility of parents to work to provide for their families.” Then Lee, Rubio, and every other Republican v**ed against the whole shebang – help for working and non-working parents. And now Lee wants to take credit for wanting to make the payments larger to begin with? Talk about both sides of the mouth.

As we move toward the gravitational pull of the midterm e******ns – and polls show how popular the monthly child payments are – I expect other Republicans to make the same whopper of a claim.

But underneath this hypocritical Republican rubbish lie two important questions. The first: will a payment of up to $300 per child every month – totaling up to $3,600 per child per year – invite parents to become couch potatoes?

That seems doubtful. Even a family with three kids under six would receive no more than $10,800 a year. That’s way below what’s needed to pay even subsistence expenses, and still far below what a full-time job at the federal minimum wage would pull in.

But even if the payment caused some parents to work a bit less, it’s far from clear their children are worse off as a result. Maybe they benefit from additional parenting time.

Which only raises a second question: should children be penalized because their parents aren’t working, or are working less than they would without the child payment?

This question has been debated in America for many years – ever since Franklin D. Roosevelt first provided “Aid for Families with Dependent Children” (AFDC) in the Social Security Act of 1935.

It can’t be decided based on facts; it comes down to values. We know, for example, that child poverty soared after Bill Clinton and congressional Republicans ended AFDC in 1996 and substituted a work requirement. Many people – myself included – look back on that decision as a horrible mistake.

But many of its proponents call it a success because it resulted in additional numbers of poor adults getting jobs and thereby setting good examples for their children of personal responsibility. In the view of these proponents, a country where more parents take responsibility to provide for their children is worth the collateral damage of a greater number of impoverished children.

Since the 1990s, the Republican view that public assistance should be limited to families with breadwinners has taken firm hold in America. Only now, with the American Rescue Plan – put into effect during the worst public health crisis in more than a century and one of the fiercest periods of unemployment since World War II – has that view been rejected in favor of a universal family benefit.

It’s too early to know whether this about-face is permanent. The Act’s payments will end a year from now unless Congress passes Biden’s proposed $3.5 trillion addition. Almost every Senate Democrat has signaled a willingness to go along. But here again, not a single Senate Republican has signed on.

Let’s be clear. Mike Lee’s Republican Party – the putative party of “family values” – doesn’t support needy families. It supports a pinched and, in these perilous times, unrealistic view of personal responsibility – children be damned.
The Anti-Family Party br by Robert Reich | July 19... (show quote)


You gonna pay for it?

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Jul 20, 2021 18:11:13   #
older and wiser
 
Milosia2 wrote:
Which family was ever started by two young people who could afford it ?
If families were only started by people who could afford it , we wouldn’t need churches at all.
Comprenpas ?


How about prince Harry?

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Jul 20, 2021 18:12:30   #
older and wiser
 
Milosia2 wrote:
You sir, are a dammed good reason white people are dying off .
Only white Christians are pinned with the guilt involved with family issues. If they can’t afford a family, they get an a******n.
Only to find you standing out front of the clinic complaining about a******ns.
It’s schizophrenic to me.
Women of childbearing ages don’t always fit
Your high level profile of who should or shouldn’t be starting families.
It was never a problem until money became the only important thing.
No other race has issues that compare.
Is it your moral issue or your economic issue.
Dwindling white populations.
Blame yourselves and leave everyone else alone.
You sir, are a dammed good reason white people are... (show quote)


Your comment is VERY R****T!

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Jul 20, 2021 18:14:18   #
older and wiser
 
WEBCO wrote:
Milosia2 why are you so Against American values and general morality? You simply come across as a well versed marxist/ anti American fool.

Rob Reich is a progressive unrealistic fool like you. Look out Cuba and Venezuela there is a new more powerful nation following in your footsteps of Marxist destruction...the US led by ideolical fools and i***ts, who refuse to see or even acknowledge the destruction and death that always follows Marxism.


H**ers gotta h**e!

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Jul 20, 2021 18:16:49   #
older and wiser
 
Milosia2 wrote:
If in the past things were handled like the botched job of the big lie , how can anything survive that?
You are assuming things were similar in the past .
The constitution offers personal responsibilities along with personal discipline to achieve their goals.
Is this what we have today ?


You should take a few history classes before making a fool out of yourself!

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Jul 20, 2021 18:18:35   #
older and wiser
 
Milosia2 wrote:
I personally fail to see any Marxism in my future. I am amazed that you are able to.


It's called blinded by indoctrination, and liberals have a severe case of it!

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Jul 20, 2021 18:19:01   #
Milosia2 Loc: Cleveland Ohio
 
Blade_Runner wrote:
That is the most twisted load of bulls**t you've ever come up with.

Morality is a set of principles by which we determine right from wrong, good from evil. Murdering another human being is a crime based on these principles.

Without a moral principle as a foundation, there would be no law against k*****g another human being, there would be no crime.

By your own choice, your life is either sacred or profane. If you cannot define morality, don't know what morality actually is, then you have no choice but to just make something up to accommodate your profane world view.
That is the most twisted load of bulls**t you've e... (show quote)


By my own choice ?
Why do I only get those two choices ?
You, for some reason think I am part of your crazy train to hell .
I assure you I am not. I was at one time but things have changed.
I believe what I choose to believe.
And I don’t really care about what you believe. Every religion has a group of principles to live by. It is not segregated to one sect.
Zeitgeist-the movie
On YouTube.
Very interesting.

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Jul 20, 2021 18:19:54   #
older and wiser
 
Milosia2 wrote:
Murder, theft and deceit are crimes against citizens .
It isn’t the moral aspect that makes them crimes, it is a protection of citizens against these crimes.


Not to democrats, it's their goal!

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Jul 20, 2021 18:23:04   #
older and wiser
 
son of witless wrote:
WTF do you get only 40 cents per month ???????????????????????????????????????????????????


Just livin the dream

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