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Jul 20, 2021 09:55:59   #
RandyBrian Loc: Texas
 
American Vet wrote:
You are assuming, incorrectly, that is the ONLY reason the 2A was created. Here are some thoughts from the 'creators' of the 2A:

"No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms."
- Thomas Jefferson, Virginia Constitution, Draft 1, 1776

"I prefer dangerous freedom over peaceful s***ery."
- Thomas Jefferson, letter to James Madison

"The laws that forbid the carrying of arms are laws of such a nature. They disarm only those who are neither inclined nor determined to commit crimes.... Such laws make things worse for the assaulted and better for the assailants; they serve rather to encourage than to prevent homicides, for an unarmed man may be attacked with greater confidence than an armed man."
- Thomas Jefferson, Commonplace Book (quoting 18th century criminologist Cesare Beccaria)

"Necessity is the plea for every infringement of human freedom. It is the argument of tyrants; it is the creed of s***es."
- William Pitt (the Younger)

"Guard with jealous attention the public liberty. Suspect everyone who approaches that jewel. Unfortunately, nothing will preserve it but downright force. Whenever you give up that force, you are ruined.... The great object is that every man be armed. Everyone who is able might have a gun."
- Patrick Henry, Speech to the Virginia Ratifying Convention,
You are assuming, incorrectly, that is the ONLY re... (show quote)


Good post, AV.

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Jul 20, 2021 15:51:25   #
Wonttakeitanymore
 
Rinaldi wrote:
Once again a kid k**ls another kid with a gun he 'didn't know was loaded'

At least this shooting occurred on church property, but praying didn't seem to help.

Pray u don’t judge! Yes if parents didn’t take precautions they should be accountible



https://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/boy-15-accidently-shoots-k**ls-13-year-friend-78916931?cid=clicksource_4380645_1_heads_hero_live_headlines_hed

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Jul 20, 2021 18:35:20   #
Wonttakeitanymore
 
Kevyn wrote:
Thoughts and prayers are obviously the only solution. Children need deadly weapons to protect themselves and accidents of this nature are simply the price of freedom.


They do if they live in Chicago or other demonrat run areas! Teach them gun safety and how to protect oneself!

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Jul 20, 2021 18:35:38   #
Wonttakeitanymore
 
Coos Bay Tom wrote:
sure seems that way. It should be illegal to not have weapons in locked safe storage when children live in the home.


It is!

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Jul 20, 2021 18:37:04   #
Wonttakeitanymore
 
lpnmajor wrote:
Until adults are charged in these deaths, they'll continue unabated. I mean, a few dead kids is not too high a price to pay to protect folks sacred 2nd amendment rights, or, at least, the modern interpretation of it.


Gun safety and safe handling! Yes we need the second amendment! People need to be responsible!

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Jul 20, 2021 18:57:50   #
keepuphope Loc: Idaho
 
Kevyn wrote:
Thoughts and prayers are obviously the only solution. Children need deadly weapons to protect themselves and accidents of this nature are simply the price of freedom.


Unresponcible adults are the reason that happens.Dont critsize prayer ater fools are responsible. Whether you believe in prayer or not we who do have results.

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Jul 20, 2021 18:58:37   #
keepuphope Loc: Idaho
 
PeterS wrote:
The gun owner should be held responsible. If you want guns then you have to be held responsible if they are misused because of your neglect.


Totally agree.

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Jul 20, 2021 18:59:37   #
keepuphope Loc: Idaho
 
RandyBrian wrote:
It kind of turns my stomach to agree with you, but I do agree that the gun owner should be found and investigated. There is NO excuse for a firearm to be in the hands of a child, and whoever is responsible should be held accountable.
Having said that, Rinaldi is a first class ass for trying to make an issue of the "happening in a church" when it did not. Two boys (illegally? driving? stealing?) a vehicle into a church's parking lot with a stolen weapon can be considered evolution in action.

By the way, just for the record. NO firearm, in the history of America, when properly designed and constructed, legally purchased, legally used, and properly and safely maintained by the legitimate owner, has ever harmed anyone. Not once.
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Jul 20, 2021 20:05:43   #
Wonttakeitanymore
 
RandyBrian wrote:
It kind of turns my stomach to agree with you, but I do agree that the gun owner should be found and investigated. There is NO excuse for a firearm to be in the hands of a child, and whoever is responsible should be held accountable.
Having said that, Rinaldi is a first class ass for trying to make an issue of the "happening in a church" when it did not. Two boys (illegally? driving? stealing?) a vehicle into a church's parking lot with a stolen weapon can be considered evolution in action.

By the way, just for the record. NO firearm, in the history of America, when properly designed and constructed, legally purchased, legally used, and properly and safely maintained by the legitimate owner, has ever harmed anyone. Not once.
It kind of turns my stomach to agree with you, but... (show quote)

You know the atheist zombies wanna blame Christians for everything!

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Jul 20, 2021 20:06:22   #
Wonttakeitanymore
 
PeterS wrote:
The problem is when you have hundreds of millions of guns out there if only 10% are misused then you have an army of i***ts up to no good. What do you do with them, simply shrug at the carnage they create?


How about knives , cars and Democrats?

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Jul 20, 2021 20:09:36   #
Wonttakeitanymore
 
PeterS wrote:
Cars are regulated, licensed, and owners tested to make sure they can drive them. Do the same with guns and you people hide behind the second amendment, something that wasn't created for what we have today...


Have you bought a gun lately zombie? You have to have a firearms license and a legitimate background check with a valid ID! The new ID! Backed by birth certificate and passport! A citizen! Quit lying! Guns should be locked up if you have children! K**lers get guns on the street! Look at Chicago!

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Jul 20, 2021 20:10:42   #
Wonttakeitanymore
 
American Vet wrote:
Why not apply that to the real top causes of accidental deaths in children?

Or are you singling out guns because of your personal bias?


How about drowning? I bet more have died that way!

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Jul 20, 2021 20:12:32   #
American Vet
 
Wonttakeitanymore wrote:
How about drowning? I bet more have died that way!


Top 5 Causes Of Accidental Child Deaths
Car-Related Accidents
Suffocation
Drowning
Fire-Related Incidents
Choking

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Jul 20, 2021 20:12:50   #
Wonttakeitanymore
 
PeterS wrote:
I'm not talking about changing the second amendment, you conservatives have already done that...and I doubt very much if you would agree to the type of licensing that goes into cars and apply it to guns because just as there are those that are denied a drivers license deny one single conservative the right to own their precious gun and the whole world will come tumbling down.

This isn't an argument, the second amendment was created to provide a m*****a to protect the country in place of a free-standing army. There isn't a conservative out there though who cares about that...you want the largest military you could possibly have and you want a "m*****a" too only you DON'T want to be "Well" regulated by the government.

And hey, if you want to build an argument to do away with cars go right ahead but as horrific crashes, as we might have today they are nothing compared to what we had just 30 years ago. Why you ask???
Regulations...mountains, and mountains of them, and there will be even more as we go along. People like their cars but they also like to be safe in them. If you got T-boned in the 1960's you likely would be dead. If you got T-boned in 2021 you would stand a good chance of surviving all because today's cars are over-engineered for safety wherewith you conservatives we have bump stocks and every effort to circumvent, get around, and disobey all efforts at regulating gun safety. Give a pimply-faced teenager an AR-15 and applaud when he commits murder. Do you think that's what the founders had in mind? Not by a long shot but it fits the narrative that you conservatives want it to so wh**ever the founders intended...well, they can go FK themselves because they sure as hell ain't going to take away our guns...are they.
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How have we changed the second amendment dufus! You lefty’s have done that and still trying! My first husband had a federal firearms license and did everything by the book!

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