Henry R. Greenfield

I am reminded of Guiliani’s reference as the hair dye rolled down the side of his face to Joe Pesci in “My Cousin Vinny” who holds up the 2 fingers for the lady that cannot see. It was a clumsy yet brilliant metaphor for the situation for the US today and the 2 sides.

They cannot see each other and each other's viewpoint, so both sides are way more distrustful than at any point since the Viet Nam War. I know because I was there during the war and we all fought it out for years about was it right, get in, get out, hippies, hard hats, the silent majority, the moral majority. On and on it went.

Real conservatives, not Trump supporters who are angry right now and rightly so as their leader has been taken down and is seen by millions as a sort of martyr for the cause, but real conservatives are not fearful at all about Biden.

They know there is no reason to fear Biden and the stock market which is a barometer of what corporations believe will happen in the future, is far more concerned about Trump’s volatility and getting rid of the p******c than they are about Biden.

Do any conservatives who have paid any attention at all in the past 40+ years not know Biden? And what Biden is going to do and more importantly what Biden can do?

Everyone that I know that has money and is conservative and they go a lot more hand in hand than the silly elitist propaganda from the right, has put their money away. White people who are conservative and have money had a wonderful time during Trump’s 4 years. They got a tax cut personal and corporate and capital gains, and a nice bump in inheritance protection; I mean you couldn’t ask for more. It has been a great ride but Trump had outlived his usefulness so they are not bothered at all that he is gone as he was not only erratic he was becoming unstable and a serious problem on the autocratic side.

True Trump supporters would beg to differ but they don’t run anything. Conservatives run the country, the country is owned literally by the top 10% and they are more firmly in charge than ever.

So why are they not worried? Well we covered the key area, wealth which is protected and they are good on that side, the most important side, their money.

The other stuff:

China - Biden cannot and will not change anything on China, Trump has made that impossible. So stop worrying.

Taxes - Not gonna happen as long as McConnell is there. Again smart guys are not worried.

Budget - again some small bumps in education and yes a move into the environment but alternative energy means
jobs. Smart guys know it and are moving out of f****l f**ls.

Climate - Conservatives know something needs to be done. They are not worried about the Paris Climate Accords as it is toothless.

Russia - they are happy Trump is gone, they didn’t like the up/down pandering and definitely happy Trump is not around with Kim/NK and Xi /China neither of which will get any time with Biden.

Police Reform - No worries Mitch will put Tim Scott back on the case and they will make a deal and get rid of chokeholds and some type of commission. Conservatives don’t have a problem as they know Biden/Harris are actually police supporters. I mean she was blasted by the left as to tough on B****s.

Healthcare - Biden is changing nothing, everyone is keeping their private health insurance so real conservatives know that filling up emergency rooms by kicking 22 mil off the ACA is a bad idea and they don’t mind Biden pushing the Medicare age down to 60 and including SSI. They will complain but they don’t really care. And they know big pharma has to give up something and even Trump has pushed that as he is leaving. So what’s to really be worried about...nothing.

Infrastructure means money and they didn’t like Trump giving his friends billions of dollars in contracts. They are happy to see some bid process and they will partner with minorities and control all of the contracts. So no worries.

Military - all folks with money have businesses around the world and while there is an isolationist element in the republican party that is quite real, everyone will be happy to end the erratic Trump and the one man State Dept., Mike Pompeo.

I will stop now, what is to worry about. McConnell will control the Senate and Democrats were chastened and hardly have a majority in the House.

This is the best outcome they could have had, Trump the wild man is gone and Biden a nice moderate old guy with small majority in the House and Republicans in the Senate plus controlling 26 state houses means it is still happy days.

This is all noise and bluster and all my friends with money would just like to end the p******c and under Trump it has been a mess and they know it and they want it over.

As stated in an earlier post: Those who won't believe that Joseph Biden won fair and square can't base it on numbers, because the numbers were given to us. So, are they essentially basing it on the fact that the news simply declared it?

Thinking of the 2020 E******n deniers, it appears they have one quality in common… they all display a rabid and monumental distrust of the U.S. Government and all that it says, does and stands for. Verified numbers and statistics cannot sway them, Sworn testimony cannot convince them. If you produce 1000 verified facts, they will seek some sort of excuse or story, regardless of how illogical, ridiculous or farfetched, to deny what is simply the honest t***h.

The News Media did not “make” Joe Biden President. The people (81+ million of 'em) did that. The v**es have been counted, recounted and, in some cases, recounted again & again. Trump didn’t get the results he hoped for. Therefore, early on, Trump planted the idea that there must be a fraudulent conspiracy afoot. His supporters bought into it.

Get over it, folks! You lost the e******n. Stop sulking. Three-year-old children accept loss and defeat better than you and Cadet Bone Spurs have.

And...once again: It seems that nothing...absolutely nothing, can be said or written to convince zealots of facts they absolutely refuse to believe & none can be convinced of their being willfully obtuse. One may as well attempt pi**ing on a raging forest fire in a futile effort to put it out.

As stated in an earlier post: Those who won't believe that Joseph Biden won fair and square can't base it on numbers, because the numbers were given to us. So, are they essentially basing it on the fact that the news simply declared it?

Thinking of the 2020 E******n deniers, it appears they have one quality in common… they all display a rabid and monumental distrust of the U.S. Government and all that it says, does and stands for. Verified numbers and statistics cannot sway them, Sworn testimony cannot convince them. If you produce 1000 verified facts, they will seek some sort of excuse or story, regardless of how illogical, ridiculous or farfetched, to deny what is simply the honest t***h.

The News Media did not “make” Joe Biden President. The people (81+ million of 'em) did that. The v**es have been counted, recounted and, in some cases, recounted again & again. Trump didn’t get the results he hoped for. Therefore, early on, Trump planted the idea that there must be a fraudulent conspiracy afoot. His supporters bought into it.

Get over it, folks! You lost the e******n. Stop sulking. Three-year-old children accept loss and defeat better than you and Cadet Bone Spurs have.

And...once again: It seems that nothing...absolutely nothing, can be said or written to convince zealots of facts they absolutely refuse to believe & none can be convinced of their being willfully obtuse. One may as well attempt pi**ing on a raging forest fire in a futile effort to put it out.

As I have written before I think the major problem between Trump and politicians is that he was and is an outsider who does not get in line with the rest of them. They needed to remove him and did. I question the replacement though because I see so many articles from other places making fun or questioning his abilities. I am particularly thinking of the time on his G5 trip when he went into a cafe and his wife found him and said, Come on Joe, and took him by the hand and led him out while the patrons of the cafe laughed. They were laughing at the US of A.
I also question his belligerence with people who question him. To me he comes across as a school yard bully by his demeanor in those cases.
I my opinion we are not picking better leaders, just different ones with different problems.

I always appreciate your chipping in, ChJoe. It's not necessary or even expected for us to agree.

I enjoy posting thread topics that call on all to test advice attributed to Ben Franklin..."If passion drives you, let reason hold the reins". IMO, OPP is not meant to be an echo chamber. One can expect dissent, even vitriol.