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Jun 25, 2021 10:09:59   #
eagleye13 Loc: Fl
 
Liberty Tree wrote:
They know Democrats cannot be trusted.


Yep. Experience.
Liberalism is a mental disorder, and c***ting is in their blood.

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Jun 25, 2021 10:15:05   #
microphor Loc: Home is TN
 
Rinaldi wrote:
So many of the uninformed and mis informed conservatives and their supporters on OPP think that they, and only they, know that v**er id should be mandatory to prevent v***r f***d.

Too bad they don't know that there is NO constitutional requirement for v**er ID, and that v****g laws are left up to the individual states.

And only 36 states require any form of v**er ID.

To help educate the various nitwits and nimrods, the attached link will provide the current state requirements for v****g.

And since the majority of states that require photo ID are the red southern states, the legislators must think that the v**ers in their states cannot be trusted.



https://www.ncsl.org/research/e******ns-and-campaigns/v**er-id.aspx
So many of the uninformed and mis informed conserv... (show quote)


Suddenly Democrats Embrace V**er ID-Wonder what that's about? http://www.rightwing.org/democrats-suddenly-embrace-v**er-id/?utm_source=rw-aw-cf&utm_placement=newsletter&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=newsletter&utm_content=RWnewsletter

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Jun 25, 2021 10:22:12   #
microphor Loc: Home is TN
 
Rinaldi wrote:
So many of the uninformed and mis informed conservatives and their supporters on OPP think that they, and only they, know that v**er id should be mandatory to prevent v***r f***d.

Too bad they don't know that there is NO constitutional requirement for v**er ID, and that v****g laws are left up to the individual states.

And only 36 states require any form of v**er ID.

To help educate the various nitwits and nimrods, the attached link will provide the current state requirements for v****g.

And since the majority of states that require photo ID are the red southern states, the legislators must think that the v**ers in their states cannot be trusted.



https://www.ncsl.org/research/e******ns-and-campaigns/v**er-id.aspx
So many of the uninformed and mis informed conserv... (show quote)


Only 36, now wouldn't that be a majority? Let's see 50- 36 states = 14 states! Maybe them Red states are on to something. PS-If any of my conservative friends are confused about States independence, I haven't heard it yet. We all know and want it to stay that way. If you think Federal Gov is great at running anything, you should take a good look at Medicare, Social Security, Veterans Hospitals, IRS, ect

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Jun 25, 2021 10:24:06   #
eagleye13 Loc: Fl
 


(RightWing.org) – Do the Democrats owe America an apology? For decades, the Left viciously attacked v**er ID laws. At every turn, they lied and claimed that requiring proof of identification to v**e was r****t. Conservatives made the argument that one needs identification to write a check or get on a plane. Democrat politicians and their media cohorts rejected common sense and were more interested in race-baiting than objective facts.

Suddenly, something changed. There’s been a miraculous breakthrough. Despite decades of lies without evidence, Democrats are reversing course as it appears they got themselves into a bit of a conundrum. The sudden about-face of Democratic leaders who, out of nowhere, are embracing v**er ID should expose to everyone that their allegations were manipulative, race-baiting falsehoods.

Democrats Admit They Are Manipulative Liars
Why would anyone ever trust a Democrat again, especially in the minority community? They’re changing direction faster than a rabbit running from a fox.

The sudden shift out of nowhere came when moderate Democratic Sen. Joe Manchin (D-WV) proposed adding a v**er ID requirement to the John Lewis V****g Rights Advancement Act. If the party would support Manchin’s proposals and other provisions, the moderate Senator said he would support the bill.

Democrats came running.

They’re not rank and file Democrats either. They’re the heavy hitters.

Barack Obama called v**er ID laws a serious barrier to black v**ers in 2014. Now, he’s embracing Manchin’s v**er ID proposal. Failed politician Stacey Abrams once said that v**er ID laws intentionally scared people out of v****g. Now, she says “no one” ever objected to v**er ID, and that it’s a time-honored tradition in America. As pastor of Martin Luther King Jr.’s former church, Sen. Raphael Warnock (D-GA) called v**er ID laws “v**er suppression” akin to dismembering the iconic civil rights leader. Now, he’s lying, claiming he never opposed v**er ID and didn’t know anyone who ever did.

It gets worse. In March, President Biden lied numerous times about the Georgia e******n reform law. He said that it “makes Jim Crow look like Jim Eagle” and accused the GOP of repressing minority v**ers. As a Senator, Kamala Harris criticized a 5th Circuit Court Judge nominee for trying to reinstate a “r****t” v**er ID law. The dynamic duo is suddenly supportive of Manchin’s proposal.

Say what? Do these people not know their words and deeds are recorded in newspapers and video files?

Sealing a Deal With the Devil
What’s this really about? It’s a deal with the devil. It’s all about politics. It’s pure political calculation. When one has no true core values or principles, there’s none to violate.

Manchin is THE swing v**e. Democrats need him if they have any shot at passing their agenda. They’ll sell their soul if it means achieving their objectives to t***sform America. V**er ID was a cheap and easy target for the race card for too long. Now that v**er ID helps Democrats, they’ll gladly reverse course and embrace it.

It was an insult to generations of b***k A******ns. For decades, Democrats argued that minorities could not secure identification and were too scared to prove their identity to v**e. It was a big lie. In fact, studies proved that state ID laws didn’t stop anyone from v****g, let alone b***k A******ns.

Now that Democrats acknowledge they lied for decades, will it come back to bite them, you know where?

It should. Who can trust what Democrats say anymore when their words are nothing more than manipulation devoid of any data or facts?

Don Purdum, Independent Political Analyst

Copyright 2021, RightWing.org

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Jun 25, 2021 10:35:05   #
Milosia2 Loc: Cleveland Ohio
 
American Vet wrote:
Sure - states rights means the federal government should not be involved unless there is criminal activity.

Tenth Amendment
The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.

Not hard to understand at all. Well, maybe for you.


Federal E******ns are Federal E******ns.
Not open for discussion.
How can you have 50 different interpretations of what federal laws are ?
Federal Laws take precedence over state laws. Just as mayor of a city cannot tell the governor how to do things.
The ladder or chain of command or wh**ever you want to call it.
Dictates that the lowers do not get to dictate to the uppers.

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Jun 25, 2021 10:54:30   #
American Vet
 
Milosia2 wrote:
Federal E******ns are Federal E******ns.
Not open for discussion.
How can you have 50 different interpretations of what federal laws are ?
Federal Laws take precedence over state laws. Just as mayor of a city cannot tell the governor how to do things.
The ladder or chain of command or wh**ever you want to call it.
Dictates that the lowers do not get to dictate to the uppers.


There is only 1 Federal e******n.

All other e******ns are, as Constitutionally directed, under State control.

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Jun 25, 2021 10:57:43   #
Wonttakeitanymore
 
Rinaldi wrote:
So many of the uninformed and mis informed conservatives and their supporters on OPP think that they, and only they, know that v**er id should be mandatory to prevent v***r f***d.

Too bad they don't know that there is NO constitutional requirement for v**er ID, and that v****g laws are left up to the individual states.

And only 36 states require any form of v**er ID.

To help educate the various nitwits and nimrods, the attached link will provide the current state requirements for v****g.

And since the majority of states that require photo ID are the red southern states, the legislators must think that the v**ers in their states cannot be trusted.



https://www.ncsl.org/research/e******ns-and-campaigns/v**er-id.aspx
So many of the uninformed and mis informed conserv... (show quote)

Absolutely! Say good bye to demonrat party!

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Jun 25, 2021 10:58:51   #
Wonttakeitanymore
 
kemmer wrote:
We've come to the point in our history where ultra partisanship rules, and that means whichever party controls a state, that party can usually put rules in place declaring who will have no trouble v****g and who will. 36 Republican controlled states are doing that right now. We need national standards and rules which override state regulations so that EVERY citizen regargless of party has free and convenient access to the b****t box.

And they do!!

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Jun 25, 2021 11:00:47   #
Wonttakeitanymore
 
wtroxell wrote:
You and your ilk conjure an issue when there is none.

1) Know when your local e******ns are held. (usually November)
2) Know your polling places
3) Get an approved state ID
4) Show up and v**e.

It is June. You have 5 months to take care of items 1, 2 and 3. If you can't get that done in time, you really do not want to v**e.

Regargless, change the constitution if you want to have federal e******n control. Tell me again what branch of government serves as an example of being well run? Post Office? IRS?
You and your ilk conjure an issue when there is no... (show quote)

Exactly

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Jun 25, 2021 11:49:21   #
microphor Loc: Home is TN
 
Milosia2 wrote:
Federal E******ns are Federal E******ns.
Not open for discussion.
How can you have 50 different interpretations of what federal laws are ?
Federal Laws take precedence over state laws. Just as mayor of a city cannot tell the governor how to do things.
The ladder or chain of command or wh**ever you want to call it.
Dictates that the lowers do not get to dictate to the uppers.


While the United States Constitution does set parameters for the e******n of federal officials, state law, not federal, regulates most aspects of e******ns in the U.S., including primaries, the eligibility of v**ers (beyond the basic constitutional definition), the running of each state's e*******l college, as well as the running of state and local e******ns. All e******ns—federal, state, and local—are administered by the individual states.[2]

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Jun 25, 2021 12:17:39   #
kemmer
 
Wonttakeitanymore wrote:
And they do!!

Not for long if these red states laws ever get passed.

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Jun 25, 2021 12:20:24   #
WinkyTink Loc: Hill Country, TX
 
kemmer wrote:
Not for long if these red states laws ever get passed.


Can you tell me about one of these "red state" laws that offends you?

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Jun 25, 2021 13:46:41   #
RandyBrian Loc: Texas
 
donrent wrote:
Without question, the v****g laws should be identical in ALL states and elsewhere where they are held.


I disagree. Not saying it would not be a bad thing, but v****g rules lies with each state UNDER THE Constitution. Period. Do we want to change that? Then time to discuss a Constitutional amendment. That's what the democrats should be doing if they want federal rules for e******ns and/or gun control and/or anything else that violates the Constitution.

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Jun 25, 2021 13:47:56   #
RandyBrian Loc: Texas
 
kemmer wrote:
We've come to the point in our history where ultra partisanship rules, and that means whichever party controls a state, that party can usually put rules in place declaring who will have no trouble v****g and who will. 36 Republican controlled states are doing that right now. We need national standards and rules which override state regulations so that EVERY citizen regargless of party has free and convenient access to the b****t box.


Fine. Start the process for an amendment.

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Jun 25, 2021 13:51:07   #
RandyBrian Loc: Texas
 
Tiptop789 wrote:
The problem with item 2 is that some locals haven't any polling places, they're hours away, or so few requiring viewers to stand in line for hours. And yes, I think the post office runs very well. Mailed a letter from point A to B lately? ATC also runs very well, again have you flown from point A to B? But I doubt the FAA can run the mail. I bet of trump got money from the postal service, it would be tremendous? Also, those states You mentioned usually v**e for Republicans so are you really calling the majority of Republican v**ers liars and c***ts?
The problem with item 2 is that some locals haven'... (show quote)


Any
one
who
can
not
make
it
to
a
poll
can
do
absentee
b****t.
Slow and simple enough for you?

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