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Biden Shuts Down Right Wing M*****a Talking Smack About Guns...Says They Need F-15s And A Few Nukes
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Jun 24, 2021 21:11:36   #
Wonttakeitanymore
 
woodguru wrote:
Interesting point of view...says what I always have, the government has always had the right to say what kind of guns people have. It has always drawn the line at military grade ordnance such as fully automatic and overly destructive capabilities.

https://www.rawstory.com/biden-right-wing-m*****a-guns/?utm_source=push_notifications

And you think a crazy out of his mind fool is ok for threatening the American people! What if trump did that?

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Jun 24, 2021 22:13:18   #
Smedley_buzkill
 
permafrost wrote:
Only in your dreams.. the right wingers in this country have never led anyone or anything.. only dedicated followers. and even most of them will not follow the former occupant much longer..
He will not be slow demanding you followers hit the line, but he will not be with you.. Just as at the capital, while he said he would be with them, he was not.. he chose to watch and TV and laugh at the outlawry of his cult..

As for the l*****t "trash", we are rebuilding the nation and obstruct it as you will, it shall be done..
Only in your dreams.. the right wingers in this co... (show quote)


The l*****t Hobbit fart sniffer's definition of "rebuild" is "turn the greatest nation in the world into a Third World s**thole."

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Jun 24, 2021 22:32:17   #
American Vet
 
permafrost wrote:
First considering that i am an old geezer, no order would come my way.. I can not speak about such an order without knowing just what the order was about and how it was ordered and conveyed..

Next, your definition of m*****a.. impressive it seems but where did it ever come from? I have never ever been told/notified that I was part of any m*****a.

Yes, I am a Patriot. In fact I fulfill the right wing definition of a true american..

combat vet of the 7th Marines. small business owner. educated via the GI bill. owner of lake view property, 45 acres overlooking the lake.. Sent both my sons to college and law school or grad school, started my little girl in a business. Have helped after hurricane, fires and the homeless.

but mostly I am a true american because I champion equal rights and opportunity for everyone, not only the chosen few..

Back to Govt. take over.. back a few years ago, Slatts posted a thread about an actual attempt, back in FDR days, I think it was.. so look it up and see what happened.

It is for sure that no educated, qualified leader will be found to lead you people in another attack on our capital or any attempt to put your orange sprayed POS into the oval office ever again..

Your dream is over, he is crying in the night and america is recovering..
First considering that i am an old geezer, no orde... (show quote)


>>>First considering that i am an old geezer, no order would come my way.. I can not speak about such an order without knowing just what the order was about and how it was ordered and conveyed..

Then you weren't trained very well. Speaking to/educating about hypothetical situations was common education amongst the NCO corps in the Army - at least it was when I was serving.


>>>Next, your definition of m*****a.. impressive it seems but where did it ever come from? I have never ever been told/notified that I was part of any m*****a.

That's not my definition. That is the definition supplied by the United States government. 10 U.S.C. § 311 (2012) - Feel free to look it up, but that's exactly what I posted.


>>>combat vet of the 7th Marines. small business owner. educated via the GI bill. owner of lake view property, 45 acres overlooking the lake.. Sent both my sons to college and law school or grad school, started my little girl in a business. Have helped after hurricane, fires and the homeless.

Same story here with detail changes.


>>>but mostly I am a true american because I champion equal rights and opportunity for everyone, not only the chosen few..

As do I. PS: show respect, capitalize "American".

>>>Back to Govt. take over.. back a few years ago, Slatts posted a thread about an actual attempt, back in FDR days, I think it was.. so look it up and see what happened.

Sorry, I won't do your work for you. If you have a citation, post it. However, I will post an interesting little bit of history for you where a 'm*****a' (as defined by US code) acted to protect freedom.

Battle of Athens Tennessee
https://www.history.com/news/6-violent-uprisings-in-the-united-states

>>>It is for sure that no educated, qualified leader will be found to lead you people in another attack on our capital or any attempt to put your orange sprayed POS into the oval office ever again.

Weren't "my people". Nor is anyone 'orange spray painted' mine either. I do not see where your consuming hatred of President Trump is germane to this discussion about biden 'talking smack'.

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Jun 24, 2021 22:48:17   #
microphor Loc: Home is TN
 
permafrost wrote:
do you for a moment think any of those fat beer swilling oaff would do the things required to fight a guerilla war?

The military is trained , by necessity, to obey orders.. only a few reprobates would not follow orders from the immediate commander..

At least not those in the Marine Corp.. the oath we all took is applied to the constitution and the nation. Not to some blustering self serving enemy of the state..


You are wrong, military is trained to follow "legal" orders. My Marine son isn't going into a public square and mow people down just because Bidem says so.

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Jun 24, 2021 22:50:17   #
microphor Loc: Home is TN
 
permafrost wrote:
What it means to me.. I and all the others I know support the elected government of these united states and the area we live in.. it does not mean we agree with all that is done. far from it.. but we do not have any intent to attack any government location or organization with our long guns or short pistols to k**l and force a new group of individuals into control which we like better.. we put up with the problems and work to alleviate those problems and with a Fixed outlook we move on as a nation. Not as a bunch of unhappy fools who never wanted e******y for all at any time, nor opportunity of and sort for those not just like them..

So, tell me... Who is the m*****a??? only ones I have seen could not attack a group of boy scouts with any hope of success.. but they love to carry those big guns, feel bad and dangerous and dream of shooting the guy down the road who has PO them for the day.. groups of jerks and wannabes... but failing at everything that matters..

would you consider an order to put down an armed group shooting civilians to be legal?? does not sound as if you would.. let the mob k**l the bystanders rather then fight a fight..

You foolish puds, call yourself Patriots.. not in the wildest dream are you such as person... that is the biggest lie of all. other then trump himself you and by that I mean all of your damn silly group are the biggest liars and the worst knuckleheads in all the land.
What it means to me.. I and all the others I know ... (show quote)


do you know statements and memes like this just .are you look like an ignorant, immature, whiney little boy?

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Jun 25, 2021 00:12:51   #
Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON
 
slatten49 wrote:
Jack, I recognize that you did not quote anyone or anything specifically. And, I can't speak to China's thoughts on the matter...but, just to be clear.

Misquoting Yamamoto, By Brooks Jackson

Advocates of gun rights often argue that in World War II Japan was deterred from invading the U.S. mainland by a fear of American citizens with guns in their closets. They frequently quote Japan’s Admiral Isoroku Yamamoto as saying: "You cannot invade mainland United States. There would be a rifle behind each blade of grass."

But this quote is unsubstantiated and almost certainly bogus, even though it has been repeated thousands of times in various Internet postings. There is no record of the commander in chief of Japan’s wartime fleet ever saying it.

How do we know? We contacted Donald M. Goldstein, sometimes called "the dean of Pearl Harbor historians." Among his many books are "The Pearl Harbor Papers: Inside the Japanese Plans" (1993) and the best-selling "At Dawn We Slept: The Untold Story of Pearl Harbor" (1981). He is a professor at the Graduate School of Public and International Affairs at the University of Pittsburgh. He told us the supposed Yamamoto quote is "bogus."

In an exchange of e-mails he said:

Prof. Goldstein: I have never seen it in writing. It has been attributed to the Prange files [the files of the late Gordon W. Prange, chief historian on the staff of Gen. Douglas MacArthur] but no one had ever seen it or cited it from where they got it. Some people say that it came from our work but I never said it. … As of today it is bogus until someone can cite when and where.

We included this in an update to an Ask FactCheck item we posted, debunking an error-filled "gun history lesson" circulating by e-mail.

We make no argument either for or against gun ownership. But we do object to fabricating quotes and passing them off as historical fact.
Jack, I recognize that you did not quote anyone or... (show quote)


Isoroku Yamamoto, at the rank of commander in the Japanese navy, was a special student at Harvard University between 1919 and 1921. Twice Yamamoto was posted as a naval attaché in Washington, D.C., where he learned to speak fluent English. Yamamoto traveled extensively in the United States during his tour of duty there, where he studied American customs and business practices.

When the Japanese Imperial Staff and Tojo proposed an attack on the American naval base in Hawaii - the reason was to protect the flank of their expansion of the Greater Southeast Asia Co-prosperity Sphere - Yamamoto objected. He told the General staff that America's industrial strength and resources were formidable and that a protracted war with the United States could have dire consequences for Japan. The militant Tojo would have none of it. He wanted the threat to the flank eliminated, and he had in mind America's aircraft carriers with the battleships as secondary targets.

Yamamoto had no choice, so he planned and executed the attack on Pearl Harbor. He was none to happy that the American carriers were no where to be found and that the two waves of the attack failed to damage or destroy the considerable oil reserves and the ship repair yards.

Six months later, in June 1942, in the Battle of Midway, Yamamoto's fears were realized. After that battle, Japan never again held the initiative in the Pacific.

It matters not if Yamamoto put his objections to the attack on Pearl into those specific words, he was nevertheless opposed to taking on the industrial might of America in a long war.

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Jun 25, 2021 06:46:29   #
slatten49 Loc: Lake Whitney, Texas
 
Blade_Runner wrote:
It matters not if Yamamoto put his objections to the attack on Pearl into those specific words, he was nevertheless opposed to taking on the industrial might of America in a long war.

Agreed

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Jun 25, 2021 10:15:32   #
eagleye13 Loc: Fl
 
wtroxell wrote:
How did those nukes work out in S**thole-istan where we door kicked for 20 years?

How did those nukes work out in Vietnam where its one, two, three what are we fightin' for?

Is the gubmint gonna nuke the resistance in Texas and Michigan and wherever?

Are members of the US military willing to kick American Citizens doors?

Certainly, the gubmint can overcome concentrated resistance easily, but not without casualties......if they are willing to to do the scorched earth thing.

How did Ruby Ridge work out?

How did Waco work out?
How did those nukes work out in S**thole-istan whe... (show quote)


"How did those nukes work out in Vietnam where its one, two, three what are we fightin' for?" - wtroxell

That reminds me of this get together:
https://youtu.be/8qPUJhy0Dz4

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Jun 25, 2021 10:18:32   #
American Vet
 
eagleye13 wrote:
"How did those nukes work out in Vietnam where its one, two, three what are we fightin' for?" - wtroxell

That reminds me of this get together:
https://youtu.be/8qPUJhy0Dz4


LOL

I wanted to go to Woodstock but my sergeant wouldn't let me....

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Jun 25, 2021 10:40:08   #
WinkyTink Loc: Hill Country, TX
 
American Vet wrote:
LOL

I wanted to go to Woodstock but my sergeant wouldn't let me....


I knew it was happening, but my mom wouldn't let me go.....I was 12.

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Jun 25, 2021 10:50:10   #
WinkyTink Loc: Hill Country, TX
 
eagleye13 wrote:
"How did those nukes work out in Vietnam where its one, two, three what are we fightin' for?" - wtroxell

That reminds me of this get together:
https://youtu.be/8qPUJhy0Dz4


The vid is a vivid reminder of how different (bad) things are today.

Back in the day when protesting was:

1) justified- weak reasons for being in Vietnam at all, outside of enriching the Military -industrial complex
2) legitimate- the gubmint's ineffective prosecution of the war - not executed to overwhelm and destroy the enemy
3) peaceful- sit-ins not burn downs

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Jun 25, 2021 10:52:21   #
American Vet
 
wtroxell wrote:
The vid is a vivid reminder of how different (bad) things are today.

Back in the day when protesting was:

1) justified- weak reasons for being in Vietnam at all, outside of enriching the Military -industrial complex
2) legitimate- the gubmint's ineffective prosecution of the war - not executed to overwhelm and destroy the enemy
3) peaceful- sit-ins not burn downs


I believe there can be an interesting discussion about our presence in Viet Nam.

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Jun 25, 2021 11:01:01   #
eagleye13 Loc: Fl
 
wtroxell wrote:
The vid is a vivid reminder of how different (bad) things are today.

Back in the day when protesting was:

1) justified- weak reasons for being in Vietnam at all, outside of enriching the Military -industrial complex
2) legitimate- the gubmint's ineffective prosecution of the war - not executed to overwhelm and destroy the enemy
3) peaceful- sit-ins not burn downs


They got away with the Viet-Nam BS because it was a UN mission. No a declared war.

AND; what was figured out by the potential cannon fodder.

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