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Republicans are out to create the rigged voting system they claim to be victims of
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Jun 9, 2021 13:49:17   #
Bad Bob Loc: Virginia
 
https://www.yahoo.com/news/republicans-create-rigged-voting-system-100032796.html

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Jun 9, 2021 14:18:52   #
WEBCO
 
They aren't restricting voting, just trying to make it harder to cheat. States are simply reinstituting the laws that were in place 2 years ago. Where was the outrage when the left changed all these laws last year? Many illegally.

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Jun 9, 2021 14:23:34   #
4430 Loc: Little Egypt ** Southern Illinory
 
WEBCO wrote:
They aren't restricting voting, just trying to make it harder to cheat. States are simply reinstituting the laws that were in place 2 years ago. Where was the outrage when the left changed all these laws last year? Many illegally.


Ironic that the Democrats are all against voter ID's nor do they want elections that are free from fraud.

If they can't win with their ideas and policies then it's all-out cheating one way or another.

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Jun 9, 2021 14:23:35   #
Owl32 Loc: ARK
 
alot of them were not even changed by state legislators as required by the constitution but by Sec of State, illegal! bad bob you carrying a heavy lot of lies.

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Jun 9, 2021 14:27:11   #
4430 Loc: Little Egypt ** Southern Illinory
 
Owl32 wrote:
bad bob you carrying a heavy lot of lies.


Nothing new here B B is just being a typical progressive loser.

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Jun 9, 2021 14:55:07   #
3507
 
WEBCO wrote:
They aren't restricting voting, just trying to make it harder to cheat.


Get rid of the right to vote altogether. Then _voters_ would have no opportunity to "cheat".

WEBCO wrote:

States are simply reinstituting the laws that were in place 2 years ago. Where was the outrage when the left changed all these laws last year? Many illegally.


That "outrage" (feigned or real) existed, among the ranks of people accepting another of Trump's lies, that the pandemic was not serious enough to disrupt the usual practices of business, or of elections, or of anything else. "No pandemic", no need to adapt to it.

I had thought I would turn over a new leaf, and be the new, polite, circumspect poster. But then I saw your post and all my good intentions flew out the window. I think I need a time-out. See you in 57.4 minutes.

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Jun 9, 2021 15:06:20   #
Bad Bob Loc: Virginia
 
Owl32 wrote:
alot of them were not even changed by state legislators as required by the constitution but by Sec of State, illegal! bad bob you carrying a heavy lot of lies.



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Jun 9, 2021 15:08:32   #
RandyBrian
 
3507 wrote:
That "outrage" (feigned or real) existed, among the ranks of people accepting another of Trump's lies, that the pandemic was not serious enough to disrupt the usual practices of business, or of elections, or of anything else. "No pandemic", no need to adapt to it.

I had thought I would turn over a new leaf, and be the new, polite, circumspect poster. But then I saw your post and all my good intentions flew out the window. I think I need a time-out. See you in 57.4 minutes.
That "outrage" (feigned or real) existed... (show quote)


You are brainwashed by the MSM and the democrats.
Neither republicans nor conservatives are trying to "suppress" votes. Voter IDs can be provided free of charge, and if needed I will drive anyone who wants to vote to the polls....I've done it before. Nor do I know or care HOW they vote. All we want is elections that we KNOW are fair, honest, and devoid of fraud.
All the democrats leadership wants is every opportunity they can manage to allow voter fraud. They know they are better at it than republicans. but the real problem is people like you, who will blindly follow the talking points of the left, and accept them as true, in spite of all evidence and common sense. When you finish your time out, spend a little extra working on your ability to think objectively.

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Jun 9, 2021 15:15:15   #
Bad Bob Loc: Virginia
 
RandyBrian wrote:
You are brainwashed by the MSM and the democrats.
Neither republicans nor conservatives are trying to "suppress" votes. Voter IDs can be provided free of charge, and if needed I will drive anyone who wants to vote to the polls....I've done it before. Nor do I know or care HOW they vote. All we want is elections that we KNOW are fair, honest, and devoid of fraud.
All the democrats leadership wants is every opportunity they can manage to allow voter fraud. They know they are better at it than republicans. but the real problem is people like you, who will blindly follow the talking points of the left, and accept them as true, in spite of all evidence and common sense. When you finish your time out, spend a little extra working on your ability to think objectively.
You are brainwashed by the MSM and the democrats. ... (show quote)



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Jun 9, 2021 15:26:25   #
ChJoe
 
RandyBrian wrote:
You are brainwashed by the MSM and the democrats.
Neither republicans nor conservatives are trying to "suppress" votes. Voter IDs can be provided free of charge, and if needed I will drive anyone who wants to vote to the polls....I've done it before. Nor do I know or care HOW they vote. All we want is elections that we KNOW are fair, honest, and devoid of fraud.
All the democrats leadership wants is every opportunity they can manage to allow voter fraud. They know they are better at it than republicans. but the real problem is people like you, who will blindly follow the talking points of the left, and accept them as true, in spite of all evidence and common sense. When you finish your time out, spend a little extra working on your ability to think objectively.
You are brainwashed by the MSM and the democrats. ... (show quote)


No, they want to win and will cheat if necessary. If you are right, why do they fight voter ID laws? They also want to just send out millions of mail in ballots. Yep, no risk of fraud there, right!

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Jun 9, 2021 16:51:51   #
permafrost Loc: Minnesota
 
RandyBrian wrote:
You are brainwashed by the MSM and the democrats.
Neither republicans nor conservatives are trying to "suppress" votes. Voter IDs can be provided free of charge, and if needed I will drive anyone who wants to vote to the polls....I've done it before. Nor do I know or care HOW they vote. All we want is elections that we KNOW are fair, honest, and devoid of fraud.
All the democrats leadership wants is every opportunity they can manage to allow voter fraud. They know they are better at it than republicans. but the real problem is people like you, who will blindly follow the talking points of the left, and accept them as true, in spite of all evidence and common sense. When you finish your time out, spend a little extra working on your ability to think objectively.
You are brainwashed by the MSM and the democrats. ... (show quote)


voter fraud does not exist on any scale large enough to affect elections.. and those who have been caught tend to be republican.. and the laws, they were changed in republican controlled states.. so you whine..

voter obstruction on the other hand is a beloved and vital tool for the republicans.. as trumps mouth said in his public discloser, if too many people are allowed to vote, the republicans will never win..

so the obstruction along with gerrymandering and voting hours and associability.. are a must have for the republican party to exist and continue their drive to create an American nobility class and put all power and wealth where they want it.. In the hands of 5% or less of the population... they say hell with the middle class, just more people to divide the economic pie with..

The criminals of the GOP have no appeal to real Americans, only to the misinformed and toddies' of the cult.. they want oppression to rule America and stop at nothing to gain the rule ... just 2 minutes of viewing the insurrection in Washington while the tried to hang Pence and drove all of congress into safe rooms .. then they still try and echo what they have been told.. under no conditions are they to admit the evil intent of themselves and the remnant of a party call republican.. That has been destroyed, now they clearly and with malice and foresight intend to destroy the greatest Democracy the world ever had..



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Jun 9, 2021 20:22:55   #
3507
 
permafrost wrote:
voter fraud does not exist on any scale large enough to affect elections.. and those who have been caught tend to be republican.. and the laws, they were changed in republican controlled states.. so you whine..

voter obstruction on the other hand is a beloved and vital tool for the republicans.. as trumps mouth said in his public discloser, if too many people are allowed to vote, the republicans will never win..

so the obstruction along with gerrymandering and voting hours and associability.. are a must have for the republican party to exist and continue their drive to create an American nobility class and put all power and wealth where they want it.. In the hands of 5% or less of the population... they say hell with the middle class, just more people to divide the economic pie with..

The criminals of the GOP have no appeal to real Americans, only to the misinformed and toddies' of the cult.. they want oppression to rule America and stop at nothing to gain the rule ... just 2 minutes of viewing the insurrection in Washington while the tried to hang Pence and drove all of congress into safe rooms .. then they still try and echo what they have been told.. under no conditions are they to admit the evil intent of themselves and the remnant of a party call republican.. That has been destroyed, now they clearly and with malice and foresight intend to destroy the greatest Democracy the world ever had..
voter fraud does not exist on any scale large enou... (show quote)


I agree with most of that.

If I could control my temper and sarcasm, I might have written something more like that.

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Jun 9, 2021 21:57:37   #
RandyBrian
 
permafrost wrote:
voter fraud does not exist on any scale large enough to affect elections.. and those who have been caught tend to be republican.. and the laws, they were changed in republican controlled states.. so you whine..

voter obstruction on the other hand is a beloved and vital tool for the republicans.. as trumps mouth said in his public discloser, if too many people are allowed to vote, the republicans will never win..

so the obstruction along with gerrymandering and voting hours and associability.. are a must have for the republican party to exist and continue their drive to create an American nobility class and put all power and wealth where they want it.. In the hands of 5% or less of the population... they say hell with the middle class, just more people to divide the economic pie with..

The criminals of the GOP have no appeal to real Americans, only to the misinformed and toddies' of the cult.. they want oppression to rule America and stop at nothing to gain the rule ... just 2 minutes of viewing the insurrection in Washington while the tried to hang Pence and drove all of congress into safe rooms .. then they still try and echo what they have been told.. under no conditions are they to admit the evil intent of themselves and the remnant of a party call republican.. That has been destroyed, now they clearly and with malice and foresight intend to destroy the greatest Democracy the world ever had..
voter fraud does not exist on any scale large enou... (show quote)


My friend, you continue5 to be blinded by your "cultish" love for all things liberal. There has been very little voter fraud prior to Nov 2020 because the laws made it difficult. Using the pandemic as an excuse, Nov 2020 was rampant with shady voting practices, all of them unethical, most of them unlawful, and some of them a in direct violation of the United States Constitution, and many individual state's Constitutions. Simple fact, with much evidence, including witnesses, videos, etc.
Enough fraud to throw the election? I don't know. And neither do you. How about we find out?
The rest of your points are left wing talking points, propaganda, and your unsubstantiated opinions. My opinion defers greatly, and I trust my judgment far more than yours. Mine is based on observation, research, and facts. yours are based on hatred.

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Jun 9, 2021 22:03:47   #
Bad Bob Loc: Virginia
 
RandyBrian wrote:
My friend, you continue5 to be blinded by your "cultish" love for all things liberal. There has been very little voter fraud prior to Nov 2020 because the laws made it difficult. Using the pandemic as an excuse, Nov 2020 was rampant with shady voting practices, all of them unethical, most of them unlawful, and some of them a in direct violation of the United States Constitution, and many individual state's Constitutions. Simple fact, with much evidence, including witnesses, videos, etc.
Enough fraud to throw the election? I don't know. And neither do you. How about we find out?
The rest of your points are left wing talking points, propaganda, and your unsubstantiated opinions. My opinion defers greatly, and I trust my judgment far more than yours. Mine is based on observation, research, and facts. yours are based on hatred.
My friend, you continue5 to be blinded by your &qu... (show quote)


In your research, what fraud has been proven in a court of law?

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Jun 9, 2021 22:17:20   #
RandyBrian
 
Bad Bob wrote:
In your research, what fraud has been proven in a court of law?


None. The judges deemed most of the lawsuits to be "without standing", and the evidence was never examined. Which does not mean that it does not exist, nor does it indicate that it is invalid. The sheer AMOUNT of it, in conjunction with the illegal and unconstitutional actions in many blue states, provide an incredible amount of circumstantial evidence, even without the courts.

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