slatten49 Loc: Lake Whitney, Texas

Sadly, yes.

nwtk2007 Loc: Texas

No we aren't. The climate is shifting towards normal. In geologic time, it's rare to have ice caps.

What a bunch of hooey you alarmists preach. And stupid, too. Switching to electric cars will actually Inc our carbon foot print, not to mention our pollution foot print.

moldyoldy

Even the willfully ignorant should have noticed the clean air during the beginning of the p******c in China and India. No cars on the road.

nwtk2007 Loc: Texas

I don't know what you are saying there but since you brought them up, they are not going to reduce their carbon out put at all; none; zero. They are both going to increase their carbon out put, they are going to burn more coal. Hell, if we reduce ours to zero right now, it will make no difference simply because of these two biggest players. And if we do what you alarmists want us to do, we will further injure our economy and theirs will grow stronger. They will live like rats in trash, but they will increase their economies and take advantage of ours, to it's further detriment.

You alarmists are the very definition of insanity. You will try to repeat this nonsense and the result will be the same; more warming, continued warming. WE CANNOT STOP IT.

nwtk2007 Loc: Texas

Yes, I am sure that Pelosi, Schiff, Shumer et all are much greater sources of "t***h," are they not?

moldyoldy

They have already been reducing, trump was the i***t who balked.

nwtk2007 Loc: Texas

They have not. Both China and India are building nearly a hundred coal fired plants over the next few years.

A total of 247 gigawatts of coal power is now in planning or development, nearly six times Germany's entire coal-fired capacity. China has also proposed additional new coal plants that, if built, would generate 73.5 gigawatts of power, more than five times the 13.9 gigawatts proposed in the rest of the world combined.

India has coal fired power plants under construction is 28 locations. Coal accounts for 75% of their power production. They are over a billion people getting more 20th century technology every day. Do you honestly think they will do away with 75% of their power production, at all???????

nwtk2007 Loc: Texas

Trump knew that China and India would not and are not going to reduce their CO2 output. Hell, he probably just googled it! And he is right. It's not a secret except for the US MSM!

moldyoldy

Chinese President Xi Jinping said his nation, a leader in both clean energy and coal production, would phase down coal consumption in its 15th five-year plan, which starts after 2025. But he didn't go beyond a plan announced last year that aims to peak carbon emissions before 2030 and achieve carbon neutrality by 2060.
India also didn't make any new commitments, saying instead that it is doing its part through an ambitious plan to produce 450 gigawatts of renewable energy by 2030. An announcement by Prime Minister Narendra Modi that the United States and India are partnering to mobilize investments in clean energy offered some promise, but it was short on details.
Japan set a goal of reducing emissions 46% below 2013 levels by 2030, a significant increase from its previous 26% target. It did not, however, announce new climate financing commitments or say whether it would reduce funding for coal-fired power generation, disappointing many observers who had been calling for such action.
Canada, another country whose updated target was highly anticipated, set a goal of cutting carbon output 40% to 45% below 2005 levels by 2030, putting it "out of step" with the U.S., the Natural Resources Defense Council argued in a blog post that said it also demonstrated "a failure to come to grips with the long-term trajectory of its tar sands sector in a world t***sitioning to clean energy."
Among the strongest pledges was the European Union's 55% reduction, which was codified into law on Tuesday. The United Kingdom boosted its target to 78% below 1990 levels by 2035, and yesterday, British Prime Minister Boris Johnson said rich nations should exceed the $100 billion initially pledged to the Green Climate Fund.
https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/u-s-commits-to-greater-co2-reductions-china-and-india-do-not/

PeterS

Well, we are about to get a whole hell of a lot of normal...

PeterS

It matters not. It has to be done and the US and Europe are going to do it...

nwtk2007 Loc: Texas

"Chinese President Xi Jinping said his nation, a leader in both clean energy and coal production, would phase down coal consumption in its 15th five-year plan, which starts after 2025." First of all, that's allowing for the power plant production I told you about. Second, you actually believe him? LOLOL!!!!!!

Get real man, you want to waste our economy on a promise from a c*******t dictator??????? Really???? LOLOLOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

That is like believing Iran stopped their enrichment of uranium or even believing our own government when they say they don't spy on us. LOLOL!!!!!!!

All the others will follow suit. I appreciate your belief and your willingness to trust others to do the right thing but man, China gave us the China v***s, they will not recognize Taiwan as a government. They ignore human rights. They have s***es. They ens***e their youths to work in factories. They have plans for global dominance.

At least Trump put further sanctions on Russia. You want to trust a c****e dictator.

nwtk2007 Loc: Texas

We had record cold this year. We are still waiting on Summer to arrive here in Texas. They can't even figure out why the ocean hasn't risen in some places, it has in some and it has gone down in others. LOLOL! The "experts" were totally F'ed up on C***d, so you think for a second that they have a clue about c*****e c****es stretched out over millions of years????

Yes, sooner or later things are going to get a little more normal. Get ready for it, don't. It won't change a thing. Not one iota.

PeterS

You just described "C*****e C****e." About time you people started to get it...

BTW, show me anytime in the past when the c*****e c****ed as quickly as it is today?

nwtk2007 Loc: Texas

LOL! EU will NOT do it. They will realize the futility of destroying their economy in favor of Chinese dominance and will put a stop to it, eventually, one way or the other.