Restore Civics classes at school, reminding every American that it is their DUTY to participate in their own governance, which involves far more than just going to the polls. They must learn what the issues are in their local and State government ( national issues are another matter ) and how it affects themselves and their families, know who is running for what office and research them carefully ( essentially ignoring campaign rhetoric ), then making informed, logical choices at the polls.

Trying to figure out who is, and who is not, informed BEFORE they go to the polls, and stopping them ONLY is a fools errand.

See now the problem is are the people who v**ed for Donny informed or are they like in a cult?
>>>They were informed. They watched him for four years and liked what he did for America. Unfortunately I would also have to say that for obama in his second term. At least they saw what they liked and v**ed for that. Not like the first term for either Trump or obama.

***Diehards would not bother to get informed but would r**t if they were told they could not v**e for Dear Leader.
>>>I could make that same comment about your r****t hero, obama. Word for word.

You are right. The e*******l collage gives the small states a chance to mean something. Not disputing that.

My commet t about the second highest v**e getter becomes V. P. was just a point open for discussion. As long as the V. P. is privy to anything and everything the President does, every meeting, etc, gives a check to the president, especially if he is from another party and as first and second, he almost always would be. And the right to succession would often go the a smaller states candidates. Just opening up for discussion.

But the main point is, informed v**ers with true facts and not the bull schitte of the last e******n.

This started out as a reply to a woody posting about suppressing the v**er rolls. It ended up as its own topic. What do you say about only informed v**ers v****g, on the left and right.



I would like to see less people v****g. The left goes on and on about everyone has a right to v**e and we need everyone to v**e. But why? Because the more they get to v**e, the more you get the uninformed v****g and v****g for their little group's issues like race things or religious things or sexual things(?)s and these are things the democrat party tries to exploit. But this does not do anything for the overall health of the American ruling classes.

What we need are informed v**ers taking the time to learn about the various candidates and not just what the main Stream Media and Social Media and advertising promotes. And the result is some of the most horrible legislators and governors and the worst of all, presidents and vice presidents.

I know everyone can v**e for wh**ever candidate they want and we can't stop them. That is their right. But just think for a moment. In Chicago every local e******n we v**e for the Metropolitan Sanitary District. Who the hell are they. Pick three, listed under party labels. You can barely find any commentary even in the local paper's recommendations. Goals, experience, relevant education? Nothing. And they are spending millions and billions of our dollars and our basements still flood. And v**ers are v****g party, not qualifications.

Now think of Presidents. What do you know? Some read a lot and do pay attention. But most, or all to damn many, v**e on what they heard between an ad for erectile dysfunction on the front end and what sponge should a woman shove up her Hoo Ha once a month, or diarrhea issues on the back end. Ask them and they only have TV talking points and no facts and mostly false information. And the evening news is horribly biased and full of h**e, lies, cover ups, selective coverage, and minimal t***hs.

And now we have a president who definitely seems to be slipping into full scale senility, who talked about unity and ability but only delivers 'My way or the highway" extremism, and a man of minimal accomplishments in forty years in government. This time we knew what the other candidate was. Like him or not. But what did we know about biden. Certainly not his Chinese and Ukraine connections and the investigations into his son. Social Media blocked it, and Trump, and Main Steam media just didn't cover anything negative about him.

It was no different with Trump. Clinton, Romney. McCain, obama, (oh yeah, a wonderful handsome black man who hid his past, and had no real accomplishments. But don't question anything or you are a r****t). Kerry, Gore, Bush. They hide the t***h and we suffer. Wouldn't you actually like to read a factual paper on his goals, accomplishments and fact checking by an independent bi-partisan panel. Wouldn't you actually like to be assured the v**ers around you, also actually knew what and who they were v****g for.

No, I don't want more opportunities for more uninformed v**ers. I want informed v**ers noting, who actually know unbiased facts. That is what America needs.

Agree it would be nice if people who cared enough to participate in our e******ns took the time to study the candidates. Maybe reform the campaign laws. All federal e******ns are subsidized anyway . Maybe instead of just giving the candidates money they could make them use it to inform v**ers of all previous political activity . An incumbent would have to show how they v**ed on every issue and list all bills or actions with their name on it. Also repeat all campaign promises and show how much they accomplished on them. Also they shouldn't be allowed to comment on other candidates except in debate. All air time should be about themselves and their plans as well as their past political history. And it should be fact checked before it's allowed on air.

Your first paragraph is correct. But it isn't done. And we are stuck with the uninformed v****g.

Your second paragraph is proof that you didn't understand what is being written. Comprehension. I don't believe I ever said anything about stopping them. I have stated that all legal registered v**ers have a right to v**e. I can't figure out a way to stop those uninformed v**ers from v****g. But it is about doing what can be done to get a balance, unbiased posting of what each candidate is about and making that available for each person to read and get informed about who what and why before filling in that circle. It is all about informed choice. Any suggestions on how to do that would be a helpful part of the discussion. Cheap shots aren't.

Here's an interesting article:

At the Founding of America Only Property Owners Could V**e
https://politicalpistachio.blogspot.com/2012/04/at...

From the article
"Good intentions will always be pleaded for every assumption of authority. It is hardly too strong to say that the Constitution was made to guard against the dangers of good intentions. There are men in all ages who mean to govern well, but they mean to govern. They promise to be good masters.....but they mean to be masters"--Noah Webster

Of course that ship has sailed long ago, and would not be acceptable for the most part anymore. But a system where some members of society can v**e themselves, (through the policies of the politicians they elect,) access to other people's money is sure to, sooner or later cause problems.