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May 3, 2021 12:52:18   #
BigMike Loc: yerington nv
 
Anvil wrote:
But it (confiscation) doesn't have to happen. democrats and liberals are sly and cunning and need to be carefully monitored. They don't need to confiscate guns - they can be rendered useless by legislative fiat.


And make guns MORE underground? Boy is that a two-edged sword!

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May 3, 2021 18:46:09   #
permafrost Loc: Minnesota
 
Anvil wrote:
But it (confiscation) doesn't have to happen. democrats and liberals are sly and cunning and need to be carefully monitored. They don't need to confiscate guns - they can be rendered useless by legislative fiat.


I will tell you a secret, but do not let anyone else know..

the only act that I picture as possible and which would upset me, is a yearly tax on each firearm..

Like the yearly tabs for a car.. that seems as if it would be doable and I would be frosted forever..



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May 3, 2021 18:50:08   #
Anvil
 
permafrost wrote:
I will tell you a secret, but do not let anyone else know..

the only act that I picture as possible and which would upset me, is a yearly tax on each firearm..

Like the yearly tabs for a car.. that seems as if it would be doable and I would be frosted forever..


So you would be okay with a law requiring you to store your firearm at an 'arms room' in the local sheriff's office - and a requirement to get approval from said LEO to take it out to use at an approved range or hunting area?

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May 3, 2021 19:02:25   #
permafrost Loc: Minnesota
 
Anvil wrote:
So you would be okay with a law requiring you to store your firearm at an 'arms room' in the local sheriff's office - and a requirement to get approval from said LEO to take it out to use at an approved range or hunting area?


No, my guns are mine and will remain in my reach..

do you think only right wing gun nuts own guns??

I think that every left wing gun nut I know, and that is a lot, own guns and expect to keep them for as long as they wish.

The fear of gun lose seems to be one more mental fear case held by the right wingers...

By the way, who proposed the storage room idea.. I have only heard of it via OPP right wingers..



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May 3, 2021 19:15:54   #
Anvil
 
permafrost wrote:
No, my guns are mine and will remain in my reach.. .


Only if the law allows you to do so.

Many countries (Australia, Japan) have laws requiring your guns to be stored in a safe - and the safe has to meet government specifications. Additionally some require the ammunition to be stored separately. And several democrat politicians have praised Australia's gun laws.

Do you consider this to be 'in your reach'?

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May 3, 2021 20:09:02   #
BigMike Loc: yerington nv
 
permafrost wrote:
I will tell you a secret, but do not let anyone else know..

the only act that I picture as possible and which would upset me, is a yearly tax on each firearm..

Like the yearly tabs for a car.. that seems as if it would be doable and I would be frosted forever..


Last winter I went to the high country up Sunrise Pass near my home to get pinyon pine. Forestry road. Dirt. It was snowy...above 8000 ft.

On the way up the road was relatively clear of tracks in the snow.

On the way down we found deer tracks and mountain lion tracks.

Apparently they they use the road too. Something to consider, especially after dark.

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May 3, 2021 20:25:41   #
permafrost Loc: Minnesota
 
Anvil wrote:
Only if the law allows you to do so.

Many countries (Australia, Japan) have laws requiring your guns to be stored in a safe - and the safe has to meet government specifications. Additionally some require the ammunition to be stored separately. And several democrat politicians have praised Australia's gun laws.

Do you consider this to be 'in your reach'?


"In my reach"?...

Are you daft... have you missed the parts where I have said our guns will not be taken!!

At times I think the rumors about you right wingers may be true..

why the hell would I consider something I am opposed to "in my reach"??


Just for the heck of it.. consider what the world sees as the American need to show guns and why they carry and how...

Posted by an Australian/Israil who owns and used guns for a living.. not to show off..

In the US, there are some people like that, and I wouldn’t worry about them either. They aren’t conspicuous about it or looking for attention. A pistol in a holster under their jacket, and they have the bearing of a cop or an Air Marshal about them. I’m fine with that person.

It’s these guys that worry me:

This guy wants to be seen. He wants everyone to know he’s got the biggest gun around, and he’s darn proud of it. I don’t presume to know who this guy is on the inside, maybe he’s a good friend, father and overall nice guy. But if he walks into a diner where I’m eating, my immediate thought is he’s got way more ego and is getting way more pleasure from showing off his weapon than I feel comfortable with. I don’t feel confident that he has all the proper training, and I don’t feel confident that he takes the responsibility of carrying that weapon with the seriousness or sobriety that it requires. When I see this guy, I see someone who gets off on the intimidation factor his huge firearm gives him. I see someone who imagines himself a hero, and is looking for an opportunity. And that assumes he’s not a mentally unstable guy intending to shoot dozens of people, which I can’t know for certain. This is not someone I feel safe around.

Much of the world thinks American gun rights nuts are not normal humans...
Much of the world thinks American gun rights nuts ...

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May 3, 2021 20:34:47   #
permafrost Loc: Minnesota
 
BigMike wrote:
Last winter I went to the high country up Sunrise Pass near my home to get pinyon pine. Forestry road. Dirt. It was snowy...above 8000 ft.

On the way up the road was relatively clear of tracks in the snow.

On the way down we found deer tracks and mountain lion tracks.

Apparently they they use the road too. Something to consider, especially after dark.


Darn Mike, I live for the day I find mountain lion tracks.. cougar down in this flat land..

Also have the plan to t***splant Siberian Tigers to this part of Minnesota.. got everything for them, a dream for any Tiger... water, deer, cover and deep snow cover to keep the name meaningful... WOW!!!!



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May 3, 2021 21:02:55   #
BigMike Loc: yerington nv
 
permafrost wrote:
"In my reach"?...

Are you daft... have you missed the parts where I have said our guns will not be taken!!

At times I think the rumors about you right wingers may be true..

why the hell would I consider something I am opposed to "in my reach"??


Just for the heck of it.. consider what the world sees as the American need to show guns and why they carry and how...

Posted by an Australian/Israil who owns and used guns for a living.. not to show off..

In the US, there are some people like that, and I wouldn’t worry about them either. They aren’t conspicuous about it or looking for attention. A pistol in a holster under their jacket, and they have the bearing of a cop or an Air Marshal about them. I’m fine with that person.

It’s these guys that worry me:

This guy wants to be seen. He wants everyone to know he’s got the biggest gun around, and he’s darn proud of it. I don’t presume to know who this guy is on the inside, maybe he’s a good friend, father and overall nice guy. But if he walks into a diner where I’m eating, my immediate thought is he’s got way more ego and is getting way more pleasure from showing off his weapon than I feel comfortable with. I don’t feel confident that he has all the proper training, and I don’t feel confident that he takes the responsibility of carrying that weapon with the seriousness or sobriety that it requires. When I see this guy, I see someone who gets off on the intimidation factor his huge firearm gives him. I see someone who imagines himself a hero, and is looking for an opportunity. And that assumes he’s not a mentally unstable guy intending to shoot dozens of people, which I can’t know for certain. This is not someone I feel safe around.
"In my reach"?... br br Are you daf... (show quote)


My granny always kept a loaded shotgun "within reach". No one needs apologize for that.

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May 3, 2021 21:15:57   #
BigMike Loc: yerington nv
 
permafrost wrote:
Darn Mike, I live for the day I find mountain lion tracks.. cougar down in this flat land..

Also have the plan to t***splant Siberian Tigers to this part of Minnesota.. got everything for them, a dream for any Tiger... water, deer, cover and deep snow cover to keep the name meaningful... WOW!!!!


There's 12 or so of them in this watershed area. One got hit last year right where the river goes through town. The year before a friend who lives near the river said he saw a female with a couple of half grown cubs.

Bears too...but only north of where I am now and east. 20 or so miles as the crow flies. You'd be taxed to make the trip most of the year.

Deer, coyotes. Gotta make sure the cats are all in every night...tricky that, too.

Deer...watch out! They will frell you car or truck UP! Not to mention the grief of hitting them! Double whammy.

Never hit one myself, although I had a crazy close-call once, my pa however, twice hit a deer within the same 20 miles of road.

Actually, one time the deer hit him, implanted its horn prints in the passenger door and got sucked up under the wheel well, which then got frelled up. Poor thing!

The other time was in nearly in the same place but he and ma were in the LHS, which I drive now. Did serious damage to the front clip but all they really had to replace were the lights.

Pa hit a deer once on one of the local side roads while driving an onion truck for one of our farmers. Your onions probably come from here. Some Mexicans, who also worked for the farmer and who were following my pa pulled over with him and asked if they could have the deer.

Pa let them.

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May 3, 2021 21:33:32   #
BigMike Loc: yerington nv
 
permafrost wrote:
Darn Mike, I live for the day I find mountain lion tracks.. cougar down in this flat land..

Also have the plan to t***splant Siberian Tigers to this part of Minnesota.. got everything for them, a dream for any Tiger... water, deer, cover and deep snow cover to keep the name meaningful... WOW!!!!


All cat I love. T***splanting Siberian tigers? I dunno, but preserving them any way we can that makes sense and helping to send them back into the ecosystem they originated in is more than good by me.

I'm not sure it's such a good idea to t***splant clouded leopards into the Canadian Rockies either, if you get where I'm coming from.

I actually took care of a pet mountain lion belonging to Kim Alexis (model) and her hubby of the time Jim Stockton, whose family owned half of downtown Jacksonville.

Kim was only 23 then and a very good girl mixed up in money and intrigue and crap. Poor thing...but she rose above it.

Mora, the mountain lion, was a totally sweet thing. I had to go to a butcher that sold meat for predatory animals (not for human consumption)...dairy cattle that died of old age and horses that had to be put down etc.

They had three pet rheas, a Rhodesian ridgeback and they lived on 40 acres deep in a cypress swamp where the only dry ground was the winding road and the pad the multi-million dollar house on huge telephone pole stilts sat atop.

I like the country life. When I worked for Kim and Jim, I myself lived 50 miles inland on the southern edge of the Okefenokee swamp...just a few miles due south of the Georgia border. I had an alligator in the pond in my back yard...country, brother.

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May 3, 2021 22:34:20   #
nonalien1 Loc: Mojave Desert
 
permafrost wrote:
I will tell you a secret, but do not let anyone else know..

the only act that I picture as possible and which would upset me, is a yearly tax on each firearm..

Like the yearly tabs for a car.. that seems as if it would be doable and I would be frosted forever..

PERM. does this qualify?
Bill H.R.127. States after passing firearms training and storage and 8 hrs in classroom (for renewal) of licence and a psyc evaluation, including interviewing spouse and ALL former spouses of their unqualified opinion of your mental state to posses a fire arm . If all goes well then you only have to pay $800 dollars annually for insurance for your firearm. If you fail the psyc exam like from a disgruntled ex-wife all your firearms have to be turned over to the govt. Immediately. Plus a lot of other stuff like where you store your guns who has access to them and when and lots more HR127 READ THE INTIRE BILL

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May 4, 2021 10:19:22   #
Anvil
 
permafrost wrote:
"In my reach"?...

Are you daft... have you missed the parts where I have said our guns will not be taken!!


You seem awfully confident in that. However, the democrats have already introduced legislation to ban certain rifles. Since it is pretty apparent that democrats/liberals/l*****ts are pretty much opposed to firearms, any rational thinking person would assume that confiscation has a high likelihood of eventually occurring.

Earlier you said "No, my guns are mine and will remain in my reach." I produced links to storage laws in Japan and Australia regarding their storage laws - and that many prominent democrat/liberal/l*****t lawmakers have praised Australia's gun control laws. So - do you think those storage laws will have the guns 'in my reach"?

But, as I said, firearms can be rendered essentially useless by legislative fiat. Do you disagree?

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May 4, 2021 14:09:22   #
jeff smith
 
permafrost wrote:
OK, it is clear now.. you have nothing but love to make a squawk...

sleep on it and try to think of something with a fact involved..


you should listen to your own advise

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May 4, 2021 14:16:15   #
jeff smith
 
permafrost wrote:
"In my reach"?...

Are you daft... have you missed the parts where I have said our guns will not be taken!!

At times I think the rumors about you right wingers may be true..

why the hell would I consider something I am opposed to "in my reach"??


Just for the heck of it.. consider what the world sees as the American need to show guns and why they carry and how...

Posted by an Australian/Israil who owns and used guns for a living.. not to show off..

In the US, there are some people like that, and I wouldn’t worry about them either. They aren’t conspicuous about it or looking for attention. A pistol in a holster under their jacket, and they have the bearing of a cop or an Air Marshal about them. I’m fine with that person.

It’s these guys that worry me:

This guy wants to be seen. He wants everyone to know he’s got the biggest gun around, and he’s darn proud of it. I don’t presume to know who this guy is on the inside, maybe he’s a good friend, father and overall nice guy. But if he walks into a diner where I’m eating, my immediate thought is he’s got way more ego and is getting way more pleasure from showing off his weapon than I feel comfortable with. I don’t feel confident that he has all the proper training, and I don’t feel confident that he takes the responsibility of carrying that weapon with the seriousness or sobriety that it requires. When I see this guy, I see someone who gets off on the intimidation factor his huge firearm gives him. I see someone who imagines himself a hero, and is looking for an opportunity. And that assumes he’s not a mentally unstable guy intending to shoot dozens of people, which I can’t know for certain. This is not someone I feel safe around.
"In my reach"?... br br Are you daf... (show quote)


well , some thing i can agree with you on. i don't think any one legal or not should be at a protest brandishing any fire arm .

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