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May 4, 2021 09:51:25   #
straightUp Loc: California
 
EmilyD wrote:
Semantics.


Yes, semantics... The ability to convey meaning through words. it's a two-part process that involves the writer AND the reader. If the reader isn't getting the meaning intended by the writer, the semantics have failed and yet you seem to toss that word out like it's an excuse not to even try.

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May 4, 2021 11:42:34   #
RascalRiley Loc: Somewhere south of Detroit
 
straightUp wrote:
You can try it without breaking the law... They might refuse service just like any other business, but that's because services, whether public or private don't want to participate in the spread. These are choices made by those providing the service. It's got nothing to do with law.

You DO realize we're in a p******c, right?

EDIT: Since you're not doing it, I went ahead and looked at the laws and it appears that I may need to correct myself. I was focusing on the lack of any federal mandate on masks and ANY mandate on v*****es. However, lower levels of government HAVE been issuing orders to follow CDC guidelines on social distancing and masks.

I guess it's one of those things where something you would do anyway happens to be mandated and it's hardly noticeable because you're doing it on your own choice anyway. It's like how I make the personal choice not to murder people. When I don't, it's never because it's actually against the law.

So the question now gets back to the original post... Do these orders from local governments amount to an infringement on your civil liberties? On first glance, I would say not. Wearing a mask doesn't prevent me from expressing my views or obstruct me from anything I need to do.

I really don't see the problem here. Businesses have always enforced their own "no shirt, no service" policies and I never hear anyone complain about that. Again, there *IS* a p******c... wearing masks to slow down the spread while people get v******ted makes a lot of sense to me.

I will say one thing... the resistance to CDC guidelines is proving to the world that if anyone wants to destroy the United States of America, biological warfare would be the way to go. One shot from afar and they can watch the ship sink as everyone on board is too busy beating each other up to man the lifeboats.
You can try it without breaking the law... They mi... (show quote)



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May 4, 2021 11:48:50   #
EmilyD
 
straightUp wrote:
.... you seem to toss that word out like it's an excuse not to even try.

Nope. Wrong again.

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May 5, 2021 06:51:21   #
TexaCan Loc: Homeward Bound!
 
EmilyD wrote:
Nope. Wrong again.


I believe you made your point! 👍

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May 6, 2021 11:15:30   #
straightUp Loc: California
 
TexaCan wrote:
I believe you made your point! 👍

Yes, she did. She doesn't want anyone to argue with her opinions.

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May 6, 2021 11:55:37   #
EmilyD
 
straightUp wrote:
Yes, she did. She doesn't want anyone to argue with her opinions.

There you go! You want to argue...not discuss. You finally got it!

I'm ok with sharing your view, I'm just not going to be persuaded to agree with it. Let it go.

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May 6, 2021 14:43:53   #
straightUp Loc: California
 
EmilyD wrote:
There you go! You want to argue...not discuss. You finally got it!

I'm ok with sharing your view, I'm just not going to be persuaded to agree with it. Let it go.


I never asked you to agree with me Emily. Nor do I expect you to. But there's no reason to get offended because someone else is able to point out flaws and omissions in some of your claims.

In professional, political and academic environments, "arguing" and "discussion" are essentially the same thing. The term "arguing" only takes on a more volatile meaning for people who get frustrated or are unwilling to consider the points being made by others. "He keeps arguing with me!"

So yes, I DO get it... You're okay with people having a different opinion but if anyone presents a rational argument that puts your opinion in question, you dismiss it as belligerence. Honestly, your semantics don't fool me.

If this was just you and me, I would have let it go, but it's not. It's a political forum which makes it a little bigger than just you and me. I'm sure lots of people on both sides have experienced similar frustration, so I feel it's worth presenting an alternative to insulting each other. Indeed, the adult thing to do here is to agree to disagree, which I have always been perfectly willing to do.

And NOW I'm letting it go.

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May 6, 2021 16:09:33   #
EmilyD
 
straightUp wrote:
I never asked you to agree with me Emily. Nor do I expect you to. But there's no reason to get offended because someone else is able to point out flaws and omissions in some of your claims.

In professional, political and academic environments, "arguing" and "discussion" are essentially the same thing. The term "arguing" only takes on a more volatile meaning for people who get frustrated or are unwilling to consider the points being made by others. "He keeps arguing with me!"

So yes, I DO get it... You're okay with people having a different opinion but if anyone presents a rational argument that puts your opinion in question, you dismiss it as belligerence. Honestly, your semantics don't fool me.

If this was just you and me, I would have let it go, but it's not. It's a political forum which makes it a little bigger than just you and me. I'm sure lots of people on both sides have experienced similar frustration, so I feel it's worth presenting an alternative to insulting each other. Indeed, the adult thing to do here is to agree to disagree, which I have always been perfectly willing to do.

And NOW I'm letting it go.
I never asked you to agree with me Emily. Nor do I... (show quote)

Yes, a political forum where millions (LOL!!!) of people are reading and h*****g on your every word.... 😂😂😂 Aren't you special to be the one to educate them as to what is worth presenting and not. Really! Arrogance, personified!!

...and I never said you were belligerent...😏

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May 6, 2021 16:11:07   #
Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON
 
straightUp wrote:
Says the guy who can't explain anything he says - LOL

Fact: No government under the U.S. Constitution is mandating v******tions or masks.
Did you enjoy your vacation on Planet Twitter? See any Unicorns while you were there?

USNews These are the U.S. states and territories with mask mandates:

American Samoa | California | Colorado | Connecticut | Delaware | District of Columbia | Guam | Hawaii | Illinois | Kentucky | Maine | Maryland | Massachusetts | Michigan | Minnesota | Nevada | New Jersey | New Mexico | New York | North Carolina | Ohio | Oregon | Pennsylvania | Puerto Rico | Rhode Island | U.S. Virgin Islands | Vermont | Virginia | Washington | West Virginia

These are the U.S. states and territories without mask mandates:

Alabama | Alaska | Arizona | Arkansas | Florida | Georgia | Idaho | Indiana | Iowa | Kansas | Louisiana |Mississippi | Missouri | Montana | Nebraska | New Hampshire | North Dakota | Northern Mariana Islands | Oklahoma | South Carolina | South Dakota | Tennessee | Texas | Utah | Wisconsin | Wyoming


Federal and State Authority for Mask and C****-** V******tion Mandates

V******tion mandates? Some state lawmakers want to block v******tion requirements.

Congressional Research Service: State and Federal Authority to Mandate C****-** V******tion.

Mandating C****-** V*****es

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May 6, 2021 16:21:39   #
straightUp Loc: California
 
Blade_Runner wrote:
Did you enjoy your vacation on Planet Twitter? See any Unicorns while you were there?


USNews These are the U.S. states and territories with mask mandates:

American Samoa | California | Colorado | Connecticut | Delaware | District of Columbia | Guam | Hawaii | Illinois | Kentucky | Maine | Maryland | Massachusetts | Michigan | Minnesota | Nevada | New Jersey | New Mexico | New York | North Carolina | Ohio | Oregon | Pennsylvania | Puerto Rico | Rhode Island | U.S. Virgin Islands | Vermont | Virginia | Washington | West Virginia

These are the U.S. states and territories without mask mandates:

Alabama | Alaska | Arizona | Arkansas | Florida | Georgia | Idaho | Indiana | Iowa | Kansas | Louisiana |Mississippi | Missouri | Montana | Nebraska | New Hampshire | North Dakota | Northern Mariana Islands | Oklahoma | South Carolina | South Dakota | Tennessee | Texas | Utah | Wisconsin | Wyoming


Federal and State Authority for Mask and C****-** V******tion Mandates

V******tion mandates? Some state lawmakers want to block v******tion requirements.

Congressional Research Service: State and Federal Authority to Mandate C****-** V******tion.

Mandating C****-** V*****es
Did you enjoy your vacation on Planet Twitter? See... (show quote)


You're late bro... I already corrected myself... https://www.onepoliticalplaza.com/tpr?p=3716771&t=215308

And yes, it was a nice vacation - thanks for asking.

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May 6, 2021 22:38:21   #
Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON
 
Wildlandfirefighter wrote:
Those who believe in i***tic conspiracy theories and are afraid to get v******ted to help themselves and their country and the society they live in are the true cowards. Tough guy Blade Runner is too cowardly to bring his ass in and get a shot. Oh you poor poor baby. Maybe you should talk to mommy who made sure you had all your baby v******tions and she can assure you that it will be alright and its the correct and manly thing to do.

Or you can continue to be a sheeple and stay in hiding and hope you don't get it. I hope you don't simply because I don't want to have to pay for part of your hospital stay when anti-vaccers like you continue to fill up our hospital system!

You do know that your wonderful demigod Trump and his entire family have already been v******ted, don't you???

So geez, I guess it can't be that bad. And yes I speak from experience. Got my second dose of P****r 3 and a half weeks ago and life has changed significantly for the better. My experience was a sore arm for a single day after each shot. No worse than every time I have had a tetanus shot in my life. So Blade, how many times have you had a tetanus shot in your life. Did you whine about all of those times or did you man up and take your medicine?

Is your anti-vax mentality newly developed, or do you have a long history of being a fool?

You can be a fool all you want. Its a right of being American. But if your foolishness endangers others, you are no longer just a fool, but now you are a criminal fool, and not just in the eyes of society, but in the eyes of God. So what are you going to be Blade? Are you going to be a foolish endangerment to society and a criminal in the eyes of God, or will you actually man up and do the right thing? Do the right thing, it will make you feel better and protect yourself and those you love. Its really as simple as that, and the shot really isn't a big deal and costs you nothing!
Those who believe in i***tic conspiracy theories a... (show quote)

I trust you feel better now that you've fashioned your own i***tic idea of who I am. Dream on, ya stupid fk.

I have gotten more v******tions and injections in my life than I could even count, I have never spent a day in a hospital bed, I am not a "criminal in the eyes of God", and if I DO NOT have the C***d v***s, how in hell could I be a "foolish endangerment to society"?

You're a real piece of work, for sure. A govt toady. A pussified, servile, arrogant, obnoxious toady. Govt says jump, you wanna know how high. Govt says s**t, you wanna know how much.



When president Trump initiated OWS and got a bunch of pharmaceutical and medical researchers working to come up with a v*****e - FAST, what did we hear from you l*****t pussies?

"OMG, a trump v*****e? you gotta be kidding. Not gonna get me to take that goddamned poison. That POS is trying to k**l us all."

Then Jinping Joe and Kamala-Ho broke into the WH and all the sudden, you l*****t pussies do an about face and can't get the VAX fast enough. Freaking hypocrites. Now we have two brand new classes of people - the V**xers and the Nov**xers. PC run amok.

And, BTW, Jackass, I'm not hiding from anything.

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May 6, 2021 22:52:27   #
EmilyD
 
Blade_Runner wrote:
I trust you feel better now that you've fashioned your own i***tic idea of who I am. Dream on, ya stupid fk.

I have gotten more v******tions and injections in my life than I could even count, I have never spent a day in a hospital bed, I am not a "criminal in the eyes of God", and if I DO NOT have the C***d v***s, how in hell could I be a "foolish endangerment to society"?

You're a real piece of work, for sure. A govt toady. A pussified, servile, arrogant, obnoxious toady. Govt says jump, you wanna know how high. Govt says s**t, you wanna know how much.



When president Trump initiated OWS and got a bunch of pharmaceutical and medical researchers working to come up with a v*****e - FAST, what did we hear from you l*****t pussies?

"OMG, a trump v*****e? you gotta be kidding. Not gonna get me to take that goddamned poison. That POS is trying to k**l us all."

Then Jinping Joe and Kamala-Ho broke into the WH and all the sudden, you l*****t pussies do an about face and can't get the VAX fast enough. Freaking hypocrites. Now we have two brand new classes of people - the V**xers and the Nov**xers. PC run amok.

And, BTW, Jackass, I'm not hiding from anything.
I trust you feel better now that you've fashioned ... (show quote)

Thank you, Blade, for having the strength to stand up for your rights - and for others who have the RIGHT to make an informed personal choice, too! You are two hundred times the man than the whining crybaby you are responding to! Good for you!!

BRAVO!!!!!

And thank you!!

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May 10, 2021 09:35:25   #
straightUp Loc: California
 
Blade_Runner wrote:
I trust you feel better now that you've fashioned your own i***tic idea of who I am. Dream on, ya stupid fk.

I have gotten more v******tions and injections in my life than I could even count

So... how high can you count?

Blade_Runner wrote:

I have never spent a day in a hospital bed, I am not a "criminal in the eyes of God", and if I DO NOT have the C***d v***s, how in hell could I be a "foolish endangerment to society"?

First of all, how does not spending a day in a hospital bed make any difference? Secondly, how do you know what God thinks? And the answer to your question is very simple... if you don't have the v***s (which you don't really know) you can STILL get the v***s from someone else and then pass it along and if you're refusing to wear a mask because "government can't tell you what to do", it increases the odds of t***smission.

I'm not sure how you folks can't see this. It's so simple and obvious.

Blade_Runner wrote:

You're a real piece of work, for sure. A govt toady. A pussified, servile, arrogant, obnoxious toady. Govt says jump, you wanna know how high. Govt says s**t, you wanna know how much.

I understand that's all directed toward Wildlandfirefighter but it really shows how emotionally worked up you are. Wow.

Blade_Runner wrote:

When president Trump initiated OWS and got a bunch of pharmaceutical and medical researchers working to come up with a v*****e - FAST, what did we hear from you l*****t pussies?

I don't know about the pussies... as far as I'm concerned they're all the right, but yes people on the left DID have something to say when Trump pretended to do all that. They pointed out the t***h that all Trump really did is tell the pharmaceuticals that IF they come up with a v*****e the government will buy some. It's the same thing Mexico and many other countries did... Are you going to credit all of them too? LOL

The pharmaceuticals and medical researches that were working on the v*****es, we already in place and doing so before SARS-CoV-2 even broke out. I did some work for P****r in 2018 for their forensics and security division (forensics in this case being, the investigation of stolen intellectual property). I remember m**A research was already in full swing as a potential solution to potential SARS p******cs even then.

I also remember at the same time, the Obama administration talking about potential outbreaks and planning for it. Trump actually dismantled a lot of that effort because he thought it was a waste of money and when the v***l outbreak happened, he was trying to tell us it was a Chinese h**x.

Operation Warp Speed was a geeky name for a smoke screen to keep everyone distracted from the obvious incompetence of the Trump regime.

Blade_Runner wrote:

Then Jinping Joe and Kamala-Ho broke into the WH

correction folks: Joe Biden and Kamala Harris were ELECTED to the White House by the majority of the American people. :)

Blade_Runner wrote:

and all the sudden, you l*****t pussies do an about face and can't get the VAX fast enough. Freaking hypocrites. Now we have two brand new classes of people - the V**xers and the Nov**xers. PC run amok.

You might be confusing things a little bit... When Trump's fat rolls were still squeezed behind the Resolute Desk people on the left were not refusing the v*****e. They were refusing to inject themselves with bleach after Trump suggested that could work. A lot of people were calling that the 'Trump V*****e".


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May 10, 2021 13:22:04   #
Strycker Loc: The middle of somewhere else.
 
straightUp wrote:
You might be confusing things a little bit... When Trump's fat rolls were still squeezed behind the Resolute Desk people on the left were not refusing the v*****e. They were refusing to inject themselves with bleach after Trump suggested that could work. A lot of people were calling that the 'Trump V*****e".



I congratulate you on your well honed trolling sk**ls of regurgitating CNN/MSN/Democrat talking points containing distortions and outrights lies while adding just enough vitriol to get a rise out of your intended targets. Your point by point format gives you the appearance of knowledge without actually being knowledgeable. Rather t***sparent but well done.

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May 10, 2021 13:31:54   #
EmilyD
 
Strycker wrote:
I congratulate you on your well honed trolling sk**ls of regurgitating CNN/MSN/Democrat talking points containing distortions and outrights lies while adding just enough vitriol to get a rise out of your intended targets. Your point by point format gives you the appearance of knowledge without actually being knowledgeable. Rather t***sparent but well done.

He would fit in well as a CNN activist.

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