R********ns for W****s? (Page 2): All huge ghettos are under the command of you prog-t*****rs. Democrats are the people who should pay, because of the way that you have kept the black...

Michael Rich Loc: Lapine Oregon

Kevyn wrote:

There were widows pensions for the soldiers and pe... (show quote)

All huge ghettos are under the command of you prog-t*****rs.

Democrats are the people who should pay, because of the way that you have kept the black race in squalor and poverty.

EmilyD

Kevyn wrote:

There were widows pensions for the soldiers and pe... (show quote)

So you think b****s - who have been given ample opportunities to improve themselves and their financial situations - because they are black and their ancestors were s***es - should be paid more money now?

Since the passage of the Civil Rights Acts and the advent of the "Great Society" in 1965, trillions of dollars in t***sfer payments have been made to b****s in the form of welfare benefits and racial preferences (in contracts, job placements - called "Affirmative Action" and educational admissions - i.e., black scholarships)—all under the rationale of redressing historic racial grievances. B****s have advantages through programs such as UMBC Mentor Tech and Texas Tech, and many others are available to only b****s for college education. Banks have special low-rate programs to assist b****s in things like farming, housing, and other financial assistance programs meant only for b****s. Some b****s (in fact, I would guess the majority of them) have taken advantage of these programs. (Those that have not taken advantage of them chose not to, that is not a problem that today's Americans should have to pay for.)

No evidence-based attempt has been made to prove that living b****s have been adversely affected by a s***e system that was ended over 150 years ago. But there is plenty of evidence the hardships that occurred were hardships that individuals could and did overcome. The black middle-class in America is a financially successful community that is now larger in established terms than black, poverty-stricken communities. Its existence suggests that economic adversity with b****s is the result of failures of individual character rather than the lingering after-effects of racial discrimination and a s***e system that ceased to exist 150+ years ago. West Indian b****s in America are also descended from s***es, but their average incomes are equivalent to the average incomes of w****s (and nearly 25% higher than the average incomes of American-born b****s). How is it that s***ery adversely affected one large group of descendants but not the other?

There is no single group that is clearly responsible for the crime of s***ery. Black Africans and Arabs were responsible for enslaving the ancestors of b****s. There were 3,000 black s***e-owners in the pre-Civil War United States. Are r********ns to be paid by their descendants too?

If s***e labor created wealth for Americans, then obviously it has created wealth for b***k A******ns as well, including the descendants of s***es. The GNP of b****s in America is so large that it makes the black community the 10th most prosperous group in the world. American b****s on average enjoy per capita incomes in the range of twenty to fifty times that of b****s living in any of the African nations from which they were kidnapped.

Only a tiny minority of Americans ever owned s***es. For those who lived in the Pre-Civil War South, only one white in five was a s***e owner. Yes, those 360,222 solder's widows and veterans were paid a pension...that's true, but why should their descendants owe the debt that today's b****s claim? Do you claim we should "cancel" out those pensions they were paid for sacrificing their lives to help free b****s by paying for their r********ns now?

And what about the two huge waves of American immigration that occurred after 1880 and then again after 1960 and even now? What rationale would require Vietnamese boat people, Russian and Iranian refugees, and Armenian victims of the Turkish persecution, Jews, Mexicans, Greeks, or Polish, Irish, Hungarian, Cambodian and Korean victims of C*******m, to pay r********ns to American b****s?

And finally, if b****s insist on doing this, they will continue racial separatism. As long as they continue to demand special treatment and call themselves victims - because of what their ancestors were - they will keep themselves separate from other Americans. Establishing groups like B*M and Black Panthers does not help b****s....it hurts them.

Kitten Courageous Loc: The Derelict Ship Maggie's Revenge

Emily, you seem to have several r****t bones in your body...

https://www.brookings.edu/policy2020/bigideas/why-we-need-r********ns-for-black-americans/

EmilyD wrote:

So you think b****s - who have been given ample opportunities to improve themselves and their financial situations - because they are black and their ancestors were s***es - should be paid more money now?

Since the passage of the Civil Rights Acts and the advent of the "Great Society" in 1965, trillions of dollars in t***sfer payments have been made to b****s in the form of welfare benefits and racial preferences (in contracts, job placements - called "Affirmative Action" and educational admissions - i.e., black scholarships)—all under the rationale of redressing historic racial grievances. B****s have advantages through programs such as UMBC Mentor Tech and Texas Tech, and many others are available to only b****s for college education. Banks have special low-rate programs to assist b****s in things like farming, housing, and other financial assistance programs meant only for b****s. Some b****s (in fact, I would guess the majority of them) have taken advantage of these programs. (Those that have not taken advantage of them chose not to, that is not a problem that today's Americans should have to pay for.)

No evidence-based attempt has been made to prove that living b****s have been adversely affected by a s***e system that was ended over 150 years ago. But there is plenty of evidence the hardships that occurred were hardships that individuals could and did overcome. The black middle-class in America is a financially successful community that is now larger in established terms than black, poverty-stricken communities. Its existence suggests that economic adversity with b****s is the result of failures of individual character rather than the lingering after-effects of racial discrimination and a s***e system that ceased to exist 150+ years ago. West Indian b****s in America are also descended from s***es, but their average incomes are equivalent to the average incomes of w****s (and nearly 25% higher than the average incomes of American-born b****s). How is it that s***ery adversely affected one large group of descendants but not the other?

There is no single group that is clearly responsible for the crime of s***ery. Black Africans and Arabs were responsible for enslaving the ancestors of b****s. There were 3,000 black s***e-owners in the pre-Civil War United States. Are r********ns to be paid by their descendants too?

If s***e labor created wealth for Americans, then obviously it has created wealth for b***k A******ns as well, including the descendants of s***es. The GNP of b****s in America is so large that it makes the black community the 10th most prosperous group in the world. American b****s on average enjoy per capita incomes in the range of twenty to fifty times that of b****s living in any of the African nations from which they were kidnapped.

Only a tiny minority of Americans ever owned s***es. For those who lived in the Pre-Civil War South, only one white in five was a s***e owner. Yes, those 360,222 solder's widows and veterans were paid a pension...that's true, but why should their descendants owe the debt that today's b****s claim? Do you claim we should "cancel" out those pensions they were paid for sacrificing their lives to help free b****s by paying for their r********ns now?

And what about the two huge waves of American immigration that occurred after 1880 and then again after 1960 and even now? What rationale would require Vietnamese boat people, Russian and Iranian refugees, and Armenian victims of the Turkish persecution, Jews, Mexicans, Greeks, or Polish, Irish, Hungarian, Cambodian and Korean victims of C*******m, to pay r********ns to American b****s?

And finally, if b****s insist on doing this, they will continue racial separatism. As long as they continue to demand special treatment and call themselves victims - because of what their ancestors were - they will keep themselves separate from other Americans. Establishing groups like B*M and Black Panthers does not help b****s....it hurts them.

So you think b****s - who have been given ample op... (show quote)

EmilyD

Kitten Courageous wrote:

Emily, you seem to have several r****t bones in your body...

https://www.brookings.edu/policy2020/bigideas/why-we-need-r********ns-for-black-americans/

And you sound like you have sour grapes. Get off your greedy, money-grabbing, effing arses.....and start working for a living, like every other American who has ancestors that were oppressed. Stop your greedy selves from demanding more and more freebies from taxpayers. It's clear you expect everything to be handed to you on a silver platter....look at all the l**ting you do when you make a mess r**ting and acting like wild animals all over the country!

B****s have been repaid for their ancestor's ancestors s***ery over and over again - to the tune of trillions of dollars. It's over. Too bad, so sad that w****s have more wealth - do something about it instead of whining and crying that you need taxpayers to pay for your laziness. W****s weren't handed their wealth to them, they earned it, just like Asians, Jews, Polish, Irish, Hungarians, and every other ethnic descendants do. Being black does not make you better than everyone else. Tough if you don't like that.

Kitten Courageous Loc: The Derelict Ship Maggie's Revenge

First off, I am not a Black person. I am Native American, so I have some first hand experience with the issue of r********ns. I have no intention of giving you details of my experience; that is not up for your analysis.

I really believe that you should watch this. It's always good to check your assumptions at the door. You might get something out of it.

https://youtu.be/ebPoSMULI5U

quote=EmilyD]And you sound like you have sour grapes. Get off your greedy, money-grabbing, effing arses.....and start working for a living, like every other American who has ancestors that were oppressed. Stop your greedy selves from demanding more and more freebies from taxpayers. It's clear you expect everything to be handed to you on a silver platter....look at all the l**ting you do when you make a mess r**ting and acting like wild animals all over the country!

B****s have been repaid for their ancestor's ancestors s***ery over and over again - to the tune of trillions of dollars. It's over. Too bad, so sad that w****s have more wealth - do something about it instead of whining and crying that you need taxpayers to pay for your laziness. W****s weren't handed their wealth to them, they earned it, just like Asians, Jews, Polish, Irish, Hungarians, and every other ethnic descendants do. Being black does not make you better than everyone else. Tough if you don't like it.[/quote]

EmilyD

Kitten Courageous wrote:

First off, I am not a Black person. I am Native A... (show quote)

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You could be from Mars, and still be called a reverse r****t....it's your attitude that is questionable, not your ethnicity. You really think activists on Oprah Winfrey's show are going to convince everyone that b****s are victims and w****s are the reason?? Get real!!

Jlw Loc: Wisconsin

EmilyD wrote:

You could be from Mars, and still be called a reverse r****t....it's your attitude that is questionable, not your ethnicity. You really think activists on Oprah Winfrey's show are going to convince everyone that b****s victims and w****s are the reason?? Get real!!

😁

Kitten Courageous Loc: The Derelict Ship Maggie's Revenge

EmilyD wrote:

You could be from Mars, and still be called a reverse r****t....it's your attitude that is questionable, not your ethnicity. You really think activists on Oprah Winfrey's show are going to convince everyone that b****s are victims and w****s are the reason?? Get real!!

Poor Emily...

https://blog.advancementcourses.com/articles/jane-elliott-lessons/

I feel so sorry for you. Sad that mama dropped you on your head as an infant.

EmilyD

Kitten Courageous wrote:

Poor Emily...

https://blog.advancementcourses.com/articles/jane-elliott-lessons/

I feel so sorry for you. Sad that mama dropped you on your head as an infant.

I rest my case.

Sonny Magoo Loc: Where pot pie is boiled in a kettle

Kevyn wrote:

There were widows pensions for the soldiers and pe... (show quote)

Nothing is keeping anyone here in the USA. They've been free to leave since 1865.
They can still go.
I mean think about it.
If you were kidnapped away from your homeland and ens***ed and treated ever so horribly.
Then father Abraham gives you (not earned) freedom, you stay in the land of those that made things so bad.
Shame on you

1ProudAmerican

EmilyD wrote:

And you sound like you have sour grapes. Get off y... (show quote)

1ProudAmerican

EmilyD wrote:

You could be from Mars, and still be called a reverse r****t....it's your attitude that is questionable, not your ethnicity. You really think activists on Oprah Winfrey's show are going to convince everyone that b****s are victims and w****s are the reason?? Get real!!

Kitten Courageous Loc: The Derelict Ship Maggie's Revenge

One thing that you don't understand, Em, is that there is no such thing as *reverse* - *r****m.* There is only r****m, and to EXACT degree to which you are r****t is the same degree to which I am r****t. The road goes in two directions. How does it feel to be a member of the Aryan Race, and h**ed for it?

EmilyD wrote:

I rest my case.

EmilyD

Kitten Courageous wrote:

One thing that you don't understand, Em, is that there is no such thing as *reverse* - *r****m.* There is only r****m, and to EXACT degree to which you are r****t is the same degree to which I am r****t. The road goes in two directions. How does it feel to be a member of the Aryan Race, and h**ed for it?

I call it reverse r****m. I don't give a flying fig whether you like the term or not.

LogicallyRight Loc: Chicago

EmilyD wrote:

So you think b****s - who have been given ample opportunities to improve themselves and their financial situations - because they are black and their ancestors were s***es - should be paid more money now?

Since the passage of the Civil Rights Acts and the advent of the "Great Society" in 1965, trillions of dollars in t***sfer payments have been made to b****s in the form of welfare benefits and racial preferences (in contracts, job placements - called "Affirmative Action" and educational admissions - i.e., black scholarships)—all under the rationale of redressing historic racial grievances. B****s have advantages through programs such as UMBC Mentor Tech and Texas Tech, and many others are available to only b****s for college education. Banks have special low-rate programs to assist b****s in things like farming, housing, and other financial assistance programs meant only for b****s. Some b****s (in fact, I would guess the majority of them) have taken advantage of these programs. (Those that have not taken advantage of them chose not to, that is not a problem that today's Americans should have to pay for.)

No evidence-based attempt has been made to prove that living b****s have been adversely affected by a s***e system that was ended over 150 years ago. But there is plenty of evidence the hardships that occurred were hardships that individuals could and did overcome. The black middle-class in America is a financially successful community that is now larger in established terms than black, poverty-stricken communities. Its existence suggests that economic adversity with b****s is the result of failures of individual character rather than the lingering after-effects of racial discrimination and a s***e system that ceased to exist 150+ years ago. West Indian b****s in America are also descended from s***es, but their average incomes are equivalent to the average incomes of w****s (and nearly 25% higher than the average incomes of American-born b****s). How is it that s***ery adversely affected one large group of descendants but not the other?

There is no single group that is clearly responsible for the crime of s***ery. Black Africans and Arabs were responsible for enslaving the ancestors of b****s. There were 3,000 black s***e-owners in the pre-Civil War United States. Are r********ns to be paid by their descendants too?

If s***e labor created wealth for Americans, then obviously it has created wealth for b***k A******ns as well, including the descendants of s***es. The GNP of b****s in America is so large that it makes the black community the 10th most prosperous group in the world. American b****s on average enjoy per capita incomes in the range of twenty to fifty times that of b****s living in any of the African nations from which they were kidnapped.

Only a tiny minority of Americans ever owned s***es. For those who lived in the Pre-Civil War South, only one white in five was a s***e owner. Yes, those 360,222 solder's widows and veterans were paid a pension...that's true, but why should their descendants owe the debt that today's b****s claim? Do you claim we should "cancel" out those pensions they were paid for sacrificing their lives to help free b****s by paying for their r********ns now?

And what about the two huge waves of American immigration that occurred after 1880 and then again after 1960 and even now? What rationale would require Vietnamese boat people, Russian and Iranian refugees, and Armenian victims of the Turkish persecution, Jews, Mexicans, Greeks, or Polish, Irish, Hungarian, Cambodian and Korean victims of C*******m, to pay r********ns to American b****s?

And finally, if b****s insist on doing this, they will continue racial separatism. As long as they continue to demand special treatment and call themselves victims - because of what their ancestors were - they will keep themselves separate from other Americans. Establishing groups like B*M and Black Panthers does not help b****s....it hurts them.

So you think b****s - who have been given ample op... (show quote)

***And finally, if b****s insist on doing this, they will continue racial separatism. As long as they continue to demand special treatment and call themselves victims - because of what their ancestors were - they will keep themselves separate from other Americans. Establishing groups like B*M and Black Panthers does not help b****s....it hurts them.

>>>Been saying things to that affect for years. Every time you meet a black they will tell you that they are black. Time: measured in minutes and not even hours. And we can see that. Every other race or Nationality and it is measured in hours if not days. And we can't see it. Duh. Just one simple point.