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Aug 28, 2014 12:36:39   #
BearK Loc: TN
 
Dummy Boy wrote:
I had a very interesting discussion with our local mayor about them hiring a special ops. police officer to "study" and track the drug problems in our small town. He got pretty embarrassed by my first question:

1) "How many deaths have been caused by Heroin in Lyon Township" (we had a kid, overdose in February of this year). His answer: "Besides the one, I don't know, but that shouldn't sway our course to address the problem". So I asked:

2) "How big is the drug problem in Lyon Township", Answer: "I don't know, but I know there's a lot of problems at the high school". Then I asked:

3) "Do you know how much it would cost to hire a full patrolman?" Answer: "I don't know". I stated:

4) ...so you want to hire a full patrolman to handle a job that's of unknown proportions to fix something that you don't how broke it is. At cost that you don't understand. Is that what you're saying?

I walked out of the meeting.
I had a very interesting discussion with our local... (show quote)


Excellent questions, hopefully, it opened him up to thought. We should keep that on our prayer list.

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Aug 28, 2014 13:41:19   #
Dummy Boy Loc: Michigan
 
BearK wrote:
Excellent questions, hopefully, it opened him up to thought. We should keep that on our prayer list.


Thank you-it is more important to ask "dumb" questions than to listen to someone's passionate rhetoric about nothing: that's why we have bureaucracy and agendas and a government out of control because we don't ask questions.

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Aug 28, 2014 13:52:19   #
Armageddun Loc: The show me state
 
BearK wrote:
Excellent questions, hopefully, it opened him up to thought. We should keep that on our prayer list.


As I have been thinking more deeply about these two questions, I have discovered they are not just rhetorical questions. AuntiE was the messenger that the Holy Spirit used to cause us to look at ourselves.
These are not questions about trusting and forgiving, they are really questions about our personal concepts of God. What comes to mind when we think about God is the most important question or thought we will ever have. Why? Because what we think about God determines our eternal destiny.
We must remember that our ways are not His ways and His ways are not our ways, His ways are higher than our ways.
God has answered these two questions in His word, that is if we will accept, trust, receive, and obey His word.
God has equipped every believer to deal with these two perplexing problems; trusting God with our prayers; and not only forgiving others and ourselves plus forgetting.
God has given gifts of the Spirit for the building of the church.
But God also gives the believer, the Holy Spirit the moment they accept Jesus as Savior.
The fruit of the spirit which the Spirit brings as He comes to indwell our hearts, is what empowers a
once fallen man/woman to live the super-natural Christian life.
You find the fruit of the spirit in Gal. 5:22.
Two of the fruits of the spirit (now remember every believer is given the fruit of the spirit) are patience and self-control. So to answer the questions about trusting, forgiving, and forgetting is answered by what we think of God. The Bible says , With God nothing shall be impossible.
So therefore it is not a case of asking God to help you trust or to forgive and forget; it is a matter of taking advantage of what lies within you when you received the gift of Gods forgiveness.
Again, not easy but it is there to use if we will just remember right thinking about God, He cannot lie, and He is sovereign, and has supplied all we need to walk in His paths.

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Aug 28, 2014 13:55:45   #
Dummy Boy Loc: Michigan
 
Armageddun wrote:
As I have been thinking more deeply about these two questions, I have discovered they are not just rhetorical questions. AuntiE was the messenger that the Holy Spirit used to cause us to look at ourselves.
These are not questions about trusting and forgiving, they are really questions about our personal concepts of God. What comes to mind when we think about God is the most important question or thought we will ever have. Why? Because what we think about God determines our eternal destiny.
We must remember that our ways are not His ways and His ways are not our ways, His ways are higher than our ways.
God has answered these two questions in His word, that is if we will accept, trust, receive, and obey His word.
God has equipped every believer to deal with these two perplexing problems; trusting God with our prayers; and not only forgiving others and ourselves plus forgetting.
God has given gifts of the Spirit for the building of the church.
But God also gives the believer, the Holy Spirit the moment they accept Jesus as Savior.
The fruit of the spirit which the Spirit brings as He comes to indwell our hearts, is what empowers a
once fallen man/woman to live the super-natural Christian life.
You find the fruit of the spirit in Gal. 5:22.
Two of the fruits of the spirit (now remember every believer is given the fruit of the spirit) are patience and self-control. So to answer the questions about trusting, forgiving, and forgetting is answered by what we think of God. The Bible says , With God nothing shall be impossible.
So therefore it is not a case of asking God to help you trust or to forgive and forget; it is a matter of taking advantage of what lies within you when you received the gift of Gods forgiveness.
Again, not easy but it is there to use if we will just remember right thinking about God, He cannot lie, and He is sovereign, and has supplied all we need to walk in His paths.
As I have been thinking more deeply about these tw... (show quote)


Fun to think about, you're right. Made my head explode.

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Aug 28, 2014 15:32:26   #
BearK Loc: TN
 
Have a question for all of you, are you visiting "Praying for America - through the Psalms of David?" Ranger is diligent in posting the Psalm, but I have noticed, it seems like there has been a sharp drop in following.

You know, God notices prayer power - just an Amen shows we are there in force for the goal of having God turn this nation around. That will take a big rudder that only He can provide.

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Aug 28, 2014 15:43:59   #
AuntiE Loc: 45th Least Free State
 
Dummy Boy wrote:
Fun to think about, you're right. Made my head explode.


Please,oh, please forgive me, but my perverted sense of humor struck.

If you just will go to Burger King and have a double cheeseburger, your head will be all better. :lol: :shock:

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Aug 28, 2014 15:53:27   #
Dummy Boy Loc: Michigan
 
AuntiE wrote:
Please,oh, please forgive me, but my perverted sense of humor struck.

If you just will go to Burger King and have a double cheeseburger, your head will be all better. :lol: :shock:


I love whoppers...could eat six a day....I love the onions.

I'm not sure it that would un-explode my head or not.

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Aug 28, 2014 15:54:18   #
Armageddun Loc: The show me state
 
AuntiE wrote:
Please,oh, please forgive me, but my perverted sense of humor struck.

If you just will go to Burger King and have a double cheeseburger, your head will be all better. :lol: :shock:


Extra :!: Extra :!: Read all about it :!: :!:

Burger King threatening to move to Canada because of Obmmer's high cost of operating. Stock up AuntiE while you can. Check e-bay for good used freezers. :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock:

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Aug 28, 2014 16:05:45   #
AuntiE Loc: 45th Least Free State
 
Armageddun wrote:
Extra :!: Extra :!: Read all about it :!: :!:

Burger King threatening to move to Canada because of Obmmer's high cost of operating. Stock up AuntiE while you can. Check e-bay for good used freezers. :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock:


They are not closing their franchises. I want it made my way and not from a freezer. :hunf: :hunf:

I started kidding DB, because we were on another forum commenting on corporate inversion and taxes. Burger King was mentioned. I have been picking at him since then about BK.

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Aug 28, 2014 16:10:07   #
Dummy Boy Loc: Michigan
 
AuntiE wrote:
They are not closing their franchises. I want it made my way and not from a freezer. :hunf: :hunf:

I started kidding DB, because we were on another forum commenting on corporate inversion and taxes. Burger King was mentioned. I have been picking at him since then about BK.


My topic...is to present the hypocrisy of Warren Buffet, I assume a guy with the last name Buffet (should be pronounced Buh-Fay) buying all kinds of restaurants.

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Aug 28, 2014 16:12:59   #
Armageddun Loc: The show me state
 
AuntiE wrote:
They are not closing their franchises. I want it made my way and not from a freezer. :hunf: :hunf:

I started kidding DB, because we were on another forum commenting on corporate inversion and taxes. Burger King was mentioned. I have been picking at him since then about BK.


I thought I would feel the air sucking in from the shock.. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Life is not fair. Here I am 71 years old and they had a chick that was about 25-26 laying all across me with this cardiac test.... How do they expect to get true results with behavior like that.

I could have had a heart attack.... but hmmmm what a way to go. :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

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Aug 28, 2014 16:17:11   #
AuntiE Loc: 45th Least Free State
 
Dummy Boy wrote:
My topic...is to present the hypocrisy of Warren Buffet, I assume a guy with the last name Buffet (should be pronounced Buh-Fay) buying all kinds of restaurants.


I do not perceive hypocrisy. As I said, personal taxes are different from corporate. I forgot to post this before. It has occurred to me if he and Bill Gates are so anxious for additional personal income taxes being higher on the wealthy, why not he and Mr. Gates write a check to the Treasury Department for wh**ever amount they feel they should pay? Why require others, who may not be like minded, pay more?

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Aug 28, 2014 16:19:04   #
AuntiE Loc: 45th Least Free State
 
Armageddun wrote:
I thought I would feel the air sucking in from the shock.. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Life is not fair. Here I am 71 years old and they had a chick that was about 25-26 laying all across me with this cardiac test.... How do they expect to get true results with behavior like that.

I could have had a heart attack.... but hmmmm what a way to go. :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:


It is a test of what a 71 year old heart can endure. Obviously, yours can endure a great deal. :oops: :-o :shock: :-D We will not mention this to Mrs. A.

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Aug 28, 2014 16:25:25   #
Dummy Boy Loc: Michigan
 
AuntiE wrote:
I do not perceive hypocrisy. As I said, personal taxes are different from corporate. I forgot to post this before. It has occurred to me if he and Bill Gates are so anxious for additional personal income taxes being higher on the wealthy, why not he and Mr. Gates write a check to the Treasury Department for wh**ever amount they feel they should pay? Why require others, who may not be like minded, pay more?


...and that is the hypocrisy...to state such a thing and then not do it, I guess unless you force them-how ridiculous or disingenuous.

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Aug 28, 2014 16:32:13   #
AuntiE Loc: 45th Least Free State
 
Dummy Boy wrote:
...and that is the hypocrisy...to state such a thing and then not do it, I guess unless you force them-how ridiculous or disingenuous.


The thing so often overlooked is by raising Capital Gains you may obtain higher income from the more wealthy; however, the unintended consequence is how it effects the other, less affluent, investors.

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