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Apr 2, 2021 21:15:15   #
dtucker300 Loc: Vista, CA
 
Kevyn wrote:
Those rich folks sure have you bamboozled.


What makes you think anyone who did not earn it themself should be entitled to another person's money? I'm not framing this question in terms of rich or poor so don't read that into it.

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Apr 2, 2021 21:33:05   #
Bad Bob Loc: Virginia
 
dtucker300 wrote:
What makes you think anyone who did not earn it themself should be entitled to another person's money? I'm not framing this question in terms of rich or poor so don't read that into it.


What do you mean "entitled to another person's money"?

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Apr 2, 2021 21:47:15   #
1ProudAmerican
 
woodguru wrote:
Higher taxes is not higher taxes for normal eveyday americans, so stop with the rhetoric like it is. I think billionaires need to be hit with a 40% real tax, no breaks beyond the write offs that go toward the effective taxable income.

Every time Biden talks about raising taxes he is careful to say for those making more than $400k, and then that is a marginal increase to where the full pop wouldn't happen until more like ten million. There is nothing wrong with people who have made lots of money in the from of profits not to pay taxes.

There is nothing wrong with no more subsidies for the oil industry that they do not return to americans ever.
Higher taxes is not higher taxes for normal eveyda... (show quote)


But those making more than $400K and have businesses are just going to pass that increase along to the consumer, so you DO get stuck from higher taxes

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Apr 2, 2021 21:58:10   #
dtucker300 Loc: Vista, CA
 
Bad Bob wrote:
What do you mean "entitled to another person's money"?


Redistribution of wealth.

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Apr 2, 2021 22:03:31   #
Bad Bob Loc: Virginia
 
dtucker300 wrote:
Redistribution.


Would you voluntary pay for the service you receive, like the police and military?

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Apr 2, 2021 22:07:52   #
dtucker300 Loc: Vista, CA
 
Bad Bob wrote:
Would you voluntary pay for the service you receive, like the police and military?


Hell yes! And I do pay for it through taxes.

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Apr 2, 2021 22:16:38   #
Bad Bob Loc: Virginia
 
dtucker300 wrote:
Hell yes! And I do pay for it through taxes.


So what are you b***hing about?

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Apr 2, 2021 22:58:59   #
Double meat with cheese
 
Kevyn wrote:
A wide majority of Americans support the Biden infrastructure rebuilding plan building back better. McConnell has pledged to fight it every step of the way. Why not tell the republicans to cooperate or pound sand. Run it through reconciliation without Republican support and grant full rights to the Americans in DC and Puerto Rico statehood.



Sure, run with that.... Dirty Harry Reid did went nuke option and it went well.

How is that Supreme Court looking? You like that?

Careful, these things happen to come back and bite ya right on the ass, a lot.

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Apr 2, 2021 23:01:05   #
Double meat with cheese
 
Bad Bob wrote:
Would you voluntary pay for the service you receive, like the police and military?



What they get now, and all the money wasted on beaners and liberal social justice causes.

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Apr 2, 2021 23:08:30   #
Bad Bob Loc: Virginia
 
Double meat with cheese wrote:
What they get now, and all the money wasted on beaners and liberal social justice causes.


Too bad ain't it?

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Apr 2, 2021 23:17:13   #
Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON
 
Kevyn wrote:
Those rich folks sure have you bamboozled.


War on the Suburbs: How HUD's Housing Policies Became a Weapon for Social Change

Joe Biden’s disastrous plans for America’s suburbs

If you live in the suburbs or you’re a city dweller eyeing a move to a quiet cul-de-sac where your kids can play outside, you need to know about Joe Biden’s plan for a federal takeover of local zoning laws.

The ex-veep wants to ramp up an Obama-era social engineering scheme called Affirmatively Furthering Fair Housing that mercifully barely got underway before President Trump took office, vowing to stop it.

Biden’s plan is to force suburban towns with single-family homes and minimum lot sizes to build high-density affordable housing smack in the middle of their leafy neighborhoods — local preferences and local control be damned.

Starting in 2015, President Barack Obama’s Department of Housing and Urban Development floated a cookie-cutter requirement for “balanced housing” in every suburb. “Balanced” meant affordable even for people who need federal vouchers. Towns were obligated to “do more than simply not discriminate,” as a 2013 HUD proposal explained. Rather, towns had to make it possible for low-income minorities to choose suburban living and provide “adequate support to make their choices possible.”

Had the rule been implemented nationwide, towns everywhere would have had to scrap zoning, build bigger water and sewer lines to support high-density living, expand schools and social services and add mass t***sit. All pushing up local taxes. Towns that refused would lose their federal aid.

The rule was one of the worst abuses of the Obama-Biden administration — a raw power grab masquerading as racial justice.

In Westchester, County Executive Rob Astorino battled the Obama-Biden administration for years, successfully resisting the baseless smear of r****m. Zoning laws limit what can be built in a neighborhood in neutral fashion, Astorino explained, not who can live there.

To be absolutely clear, denying anyone the chance to rent or buy a home because of their race is abhorrent and illegal. It should be prosecuted whenever it still happens.
see also

Team Trump just called a halt to the Obama-era war on American suburbs

African Americans have been steadily leaving inner cities and choosing suburban lifestyles, according to Brookings Institution data. Many families — of all races — want the peace of mind of letting their kids ride bikes around quiet neighborhood streets. That’s what zoning laws provide.

The real barrier to suburban living is money. Living in the ’burbs isn’t cheap. HUD Secretary Ben Carson told a House committee last May that “people can only afford to live in certain places.” It’s “not because George Wallace is blocking the door.”

Biden and the e******y warriors are using accusations of r****m to accomplish something different. Their message is: You worked and saved to move to the suburbs, but you can’t have that way of life unless everyone else can, too.

Count on Trump to make Biden’s war on the suburbs a key issue in the e******n. In his Rose Garden news conference Thursday, the president came out swinging, warning that Biden would “totally destroy the beautiful suburbs” by “placing far-left Washington bureaucrats in charge of local zoning.”

In response, the left and its media allies played the race card. As usual. On MSNBC, Princeton University Professor Eddie Glaude Jr. said, “I hear the words of a r****t.” CNN accused the president of fearmongering “white suburban v**ers.” But it’s CNN that is being r****t — by assuming that only w****s own homes in the suburbs.

Trump is talking to suburban homeowners of all ethnicities. If you buy a house in a neighborhood with quarter-acre zoning, you don’t want a high-density housing complex built at the end of the street.

The president won the suburbs in 2016, but polls show Trump trailing in the suburbs largely because of opposition from women. They need to focus on what’s at stake for their families.

Tens of thousands of New Yorkers have fled the city in the past four months, many of them spending their savings and taking out a mortgage to buy a home in the suburbs. The same dynamic is playing out in many other regions nationwide. For these t***splants, the stakes are high.

The outcome of the November e******n will determine the value of their new home, the size of their property tax bill and the character of the town they now call home.

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Apr 3, 2021 00:06:59   #
dtucker300 Loc: Vista, CA
 
Bad Bob wrote:
So what are you b***hing about?


Jeez, what a troll you are. Get a life!

https://www.foxbusiness.com/politics/democrats-salt-cap-repeal-wealthy

Democrats push 1% friendly SALT cap repeal amid Biden calls for tax hikes on the wealthy
NY lawmakers ramp up calls to repeal the deduction as the White House prepares for a potential tax code
By Brittany De LeaFOXBusiness

Rep. Suozzi to publish names of lawmakers who don’t support SALT deduction
Rep. Thomas Suozzi, D-NY, is calling for a SALT cap repeal and urging other New Yorkers to do the same.

Democrats are making a push for President Biden to repeal the controversial $10,000 cap on state and local tax (SALT) deductions as he considers several tax proposals to fund forthcoming infrastructure legislation.


Rep. Tom Suozzi, D-N.Y., said in a statement this week that he would not support any tax increases unless they are accompanied by plans to restore the full state and local tax deduction.

“No SALT, no deal,” Suozzi said. “I am not going to support any change in the tax code unless there is a restoration of the SALT deduction. The cap on the SALT deduction has been a body blow to New York and middle-class families in New York.”

Suozzi noted, as New York Gov. Cuomo has in the past, that the cap has led to a loss of tax-paying residents from the state.


The 2017 Tax Cuts and Jobs Act imposed a $10,000 cap on state and local tax deductions, which was perceived as having a negative effect on wealthy residents in blue states – like New York and New Jersey – where income and property taxes are higher.

The average SALT deduction for Westchester and Rockland counties in New York in 2017 was $36,263 and $22,249, respectively, according to the New York lawmakers. Suozzi represents the 3rd Congressional district on Long Island where the average SALT deduction in 2017 was $18,386 according to data released by Suozzi's office.

Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer, D-N.Y., introduced companion legislation alongside Suozzi to eliminate the SALT cap earlier this year.


Schumer, whose office did not return FOX Business' request for comment, is prepared to bring up restoring the provision when talks begin about making changes to the tax code, CNBC reported this week.

Cuomo has also made repeated public calls for the deduction to be restored.


Biden is expected to detail his plans to pay for his infrastructure plan on Wednesday, which will include raising revenue through tax increases. Repealing the SALT cap, however, would cost the government revenue.

Republicans have characterized the effort to repeal the cap as a tax cut for the wealthy. An analysis conducted by the Tax Foundation estimates its repeal would cost $600 billion in revenue over the course of a decade, with the largest relief aimed at the top 1% of earners.


Biden has not mentioned the provision in his tax proposals.


The White House said on Monday when discussing his ideas to raise rates on the wealthiest Americans and corporations that he believes he has an opportunity to rebalance and address the tax code in a way that would make it more progressive.

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Apr 3, 2021 05:45:25   #
Bad Bob Loc: Virginia
 
dtucker300 wrote:
Jeez, what a troll you are. Get a life!

https://www.foxbusiness.com/politics/democrats-salt-cap-repeal-wealthy

Democrats push 1% friendly SALT cap repeal amid Biden calls for tax hikes on the wealthy
NY lawmakers ramp up calls to repeal the deduction as the White House prepares for a potential tax code
By Brittany De LeaFOXBusiness

Rep. Suozzi to publish names of lawmakers who don’t support SALT deduction
Rep. Thomas Suozzi, D-NY, is calling for a SALT cap repeal and urging other New Yorkers to do the same.

Democrats are making a push for President Biden to repeal the controversial $10,000 cap on state and local tax (SALT) deductions as he considers several tax proposals to fund forthcoming infrastructure legislation.


Rep. Tom Suozzi, D-N.Y., said in a statement this week that he would not support any tax increases unless they are accompanied by plans to restore the full state and local tax deduction.

“No SALT, no deal,” Suozzi said. “I am not going to support any change in the tax code unless there is a restoration of the SALT deduction. The cap on the SALT deduction has been a body blow to New York and middle-class families in New York.”

Suozzi noted, as New York Gov. Cuomo has in the past, that the cap has led to a loss of tax-paying residents from the state.


The 2017 Tax Cuts and Jobs Act imposed a $10,000 cap on state and local tax deductions, which was perceived as having a negative effect on wealthy residents in blue states – like New York and New Jersey – where income and property taxes are higher.

The average SALT deduction for Westchester and Rockland counties in New York in 2017 was $36,263 and $22,249, respectively, according to the New York lawmakers. Suozzi represents the 3rd Congressional district on Long Island where the average SALT deduction in 2017 was $18,386 according to data released by Suozzi's office.

Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer, D-N.Y., introduced companion legislation alongside Suozzi to eliminate the SALT cap earlier this year.


Schumer, whose office did not return FOX Business' request for comment, is prepared to bring up restoring the provision when talks begin about making changes to the tax code, CNBC reported this week.

Cuomo has also made repeated public calls for the deduction to be restored.


Biden is expected to detail his plans to pay for his infrastructure plan on Wednesday, which will include raising revenue through tax increases. Repealing the SALT cap, however, would cost the government revenue.

Republicans have characterized the effort to repeal the cap as a tax cut for the wealthy. An analysis conducted by the Tax Foundation estimates its repeal would cost $600 billion in revenue over the course of a decade, with the largest relief aimed at the top 1% of earners.


Biden has not mentioned the provision in his tax proposals.


The White House said on Monday when discussing his ideas to raise rates on the wealthiest Americans and corporations that he believes he has an opportunity to rebalance and address the tax code in a way that would make it more progressive.
Jeez, what a troll you are. Get a life! br br h... (show quote)


So you're just b***hing about tax hikes on the wealthy.

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Apr 3, 2021 11:21:51   #
Peewee Loc: San Antonio, TX
 
Kevyn wrote:
A wide majority of Americans support the Biden infrastructure rebuilding plan building back better. McConnell has pledged to fight it every step of the way. Why not tell the republicans to cooperate or pound sand. Run it through reconciliation without Republican support and grant full rights to the Americans in DC and Puerto Rico statehood.


His pencil doesn't even have lead. Is he your hero? He's a munchkin and a mental midget. You should buy John Boehner's new book (I never would), he really goes after Cruz in it. A wino fighting a person with a photographic memory. Cruz must have spanked him in the past, and he's still mad. Two GOP members a bad one and a good one. Boehner is my bad one if you couldn't figure it out by yourself.

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Apr 3, 2021 12:03:33   #
JohnCo
 
woodguru wrote:
Higher taxes is not higher taxes for normal eveyday americans, so stop with the rhetoric like it is. I think billionaires need to be hit with a 40% real tax, no breaks beyond the write offs that go toward the effective taxable income.

Every time Biden talks about raising taxes he is careful to say for those making more than $400k, and then that is a marginal increase to where the full pop wouldn't happen until more like ten million. There is nothing wrong with people who have made lots of money in the from of profits not to pay taxes.

There is nothing wrong with no more subsidies for the oil industry that they do not return to americans ever.
Higher taxes is not higher taxes for normal eveyda... (show quote)


Well said!

I especially agree that subsidies for many big businesses (such as the oil industry) should be greatly reduced or eliminated. Someone needs to expand on that topic, and to find just the right jokes about it, maybe something along the lines of (this is just a rough draft):

a nanny state, but only to give money, with no strings attached, to rich people with a record of stealing from poor people -- that's the kind of government the Republican Party insists on forcing the common people to pay for. Adopt a wan billionaire, help pay for his children to go to elite schools... and so on.

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