microphor Loc: Home is TN

According to my Canadian friend, its not about having to pay for care, its about getting the care. Thats why her sister inlaw came to US for shoulder surgery after waiting for 2 years in her own country

lpnmajor Loc: Arkansas

There in is the crux of the problem. Who decides what the "sides" are? Who formulates the entrance criteria? Who determines what each side believes or doesn't believe? Does one get kicked off their side, if they disagree with something? Is it honorable to pretend to agree with wh**ever decree one's chosen side has made, for fear of reprisal?

ChJoe

lindajoy Loc: right here with you....

It is the diversity of our positions that should bring a forming of unity for all in simply recognizing our differences are not really indifferences just away to work towards a “mutual acceptance” of~~~

I favor an independent medical coverage done by choice and affordability by the private citizen, like we used to have.(freedom of choice, right of privacy, independance from government vs control by government.)... Why we upset the entire nations health coverage was not, supposedly” what was the issue but rather covering the alleged 20 million who had no insurance.. Efforts would have and should have been focused on correcting that not changing the entire nation of people who had insurance they choose and managed..The nations citizens were brought in to cover the expenses in extending medicaid to all of those uninsured so there would be better pooling resources to spread the risk to the citizens vs the government costs...Just as they are trying to do now in Medicare for all ~~
I am aware of some 39 states that have now expanded “Medicaid”under the auspices of the ACA ... When the healthcare debate rages, one of the dialectics that fuels the debate is the semantic meaning of the word “rights.” While we all have a generalized sense of what this means, something we are entitled to simply because we exist, the debates over healthcare arise from differing ideas regarding how “rights are idealized”... In a nut shell I see it as this~~
rights are restraints on actions rather than an obligation to act. In the case of the constitutional decree that we have the right to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness, a negative rights outlook would mean that you have no obligation to help another person to attain life, liberty, or happiness, but you do have a duty not to get in their way.... Right?? I support the responsibility for all to to be treated and helping to insure that is what is done.. My taxes and yours do pay towards that medicaid pool for such already..underprivileged or not they deserve adequate treatment... Nail the fraud committed in the program, escalated hospital charges so they get more paid while drs do the very same... Watch that premium for medicaid change quick with a bit of true management not administered by the medical facilities that are the ones breeching the system rife with fraud....

I know little of the Canadian system only knowing prices are better but treatment needs are much longer in service?? Correct or no??

lindajoy Loc: right here with you....

Thank you for posting this.....

How the services in Canada are paid for by the public, but delivered, in large part, by private doctors. What we have is a system where the insurance is paid for through a public plan. The services are paid for through general taxation, but the services are not delivered by government employees...

The public through taxation at what % I wonder?? I’ll have to read more...

lindajoy Loc: right here with you....

As to your last question~ no, thats why “ sides” are really immaterial~~ do you compromise your morals to appease another??? No, so why would you do so just to skate through something that may create diversity?? Because you either solidify your stance or you reevaluate yourself..

JohnCo

I don't believe that: that everyone has to pick a side.

But supposing they all did; then who would qualify to sit on a jury?

lindajoy Loc: right here with you....

Jurists are people whom have their own political views or moral views etc..Being on a particular side is not what matters but their ability to rule objectively on the facts and evidence as presented.. Prejudice views will get a potential jurist stricken..

moldyoldy

Echo park, many homeless do not want to live in hotels or shelters.

Homeless services providers will be in the park Thursday to "work with the park's unhoused residents to offer shelter and services to anyone who wants and needs the assistance," O'Farrell said via Twitter. He said more than 120 homeless people had already moved to t***sitional housing.

https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2021/03/25/us/los-angeles-police-echo-park-homeless/index.html

jSmitty45 Loc: Fl born, lived in Texas 30 yrs, now Louisiana

You are absolutely correct!

microphor Loc: Home is TN

What little I know through my friend "Canadian Born" is that I want "Freedom of Choice". I want private insurance where there are still doctor's who have some incisive to practice medicine and who don't have to take on more patients then they can handle. I can't stop thinking about waiting for two years in pain for a minor surgery that she had to go to another country to get and pay for there, even though she is paying for medical services in her own country. Sounds like rationed care.

moldyoldy

Doctors here have an incentive to keep you coming back. They have no incentive to cure anything. They need patients to take pills and come back in three months for another check up.

Rose42

Big Pharma pushes that not most doctors. And Big Pharma owns both parties.

lindajoy Loc: right here with you....

Yes, it does... I have a Canadian friend who came here to have surgery for a bone spur in his shoulder after waiting months with pain unbearable... He paid some 20k here and said he just had to get relief, was losing feeling and mobility daily, couldn't work etc....One has to wonder what Canadian medical defines as needed surgery now or put as elective.?? I guess there are downfalls to all of it..

Thank you for your reply too...

lindajoy Loc: right here with you....

Sure do!!!! Agreed!!! Pitiful, truly...