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May 16, 2013 01:38:02   #
ABBAsFernando Loc: Ohio
 
The C*****r wrote:
This off the topic of the thread just a bit, however I feel compelled to point out that typically:

Those individuals who desire to live a decadent lifestyle. A lifestyle in conflict with the teachings from the bible. Teachings which show us all how to live in harmony with the planet and our fellow beings, are the same ones who rile against it the most.

The more perverted their beliefs and desires, the louder they rile.

For they are the pathetic sinners, and it is they who need the love of Jesus to brighten their days.
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Isaiah, chapter 32


Compare with Revised Standard Version: Isai.32


1: Behold, a king shall reign in righteousness, and princes shall rule in judgment.
2: And a man shall be as an hiding place from the wind, and a covert from the tempest; as rivers of water in a dry place, as the shadow of a great rock in a weary land.
3: And the eyes of them that see shall not be dim, and the ears of them that hear shall hearken.
4: The heart also of the rash shall understand knowledge, and the tongue of the stammerers shall be ready to speak plainly.
5: The vile person shall be no more called liberal, nor the churl said to be bountiful.
6: For the vile person will speak villany, and his heart will work iniquity, to practise hypocrisy, and to utter error against the LORD, to make empty the soul of the hungry, and he will cause the drink of the thirsty to fail.
7: The instruments also of the churl are evil: he deviseth wicked devices to destroy the poor with lying words, even when the needy speaketh right.
8: But the liberal deviseth liberal things; and by liberal things shall he stand.
9: Rise up, ye women that are at ease; hear my voice, ye careless daughters; give ear unto my speech.
10: Many days and years shall ye be troubled, ye careless women: for the vintage shall fail, the gathering shall not come.
11: Tremble, ye women that are at ease; be troubled, ye careless ones: strip you, and make you bare, and gird sackcloth upon your loins.
12: They shall lament for the teats, for the pleasant fields, for the fruitful vine.
13: Upon the land of my people shall come up thorns and briers; yea, upon all the houses of joy in the joyous city:
14: Because the palaces shall be forsaken; the multitude of the city shall be left; the forts and towers shall be for dens for ever, a joy of wild asses, a pasture of flocks;
15: Until the spirit be poured upon us from on high, and the wilderness be a fruitful field, and the fruitful field be counted for a forest.
16: Then judgment shall dwell in the wilderness, and righteousness remain in the fruitful field.
17: And the work of righteousness shall be peace; and the effect of righteousness quietness and assurance for ever.
18: And my people shall dwell in a peaceable habitation, and in sure dwellings, and in quiet resting places;
19: When it shall hail, coming down on the forest; and the city shall be low in a low place.
20: Blessed are ye that sow beside all waters, that send forth thither the feet of the ox and the ass.



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May 16, 2013 07:46:25   #
The Progressive Patriot
 
ABBAsFernando wrote:
Your knowledge of American History falls short. Evidently you buy into the c*******t rewrite of American History. You need to go back to school and get a real education.

REAL American History places Christian Morals as absolutely necessary for America to be FREE.

John Adams in a speech to the military in 1798 warned his fellow countrymen stating, "We have no government armed with power capable of contending with human passions unbridled by morality and religion . . . Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other." John Adams is a signer of the Declaration of Independence, the Bill of Rights and our second President.
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John Adams also said: As the government of the United States of America is not on any sense founded on the Christian Religion, - as it has in itself no character of enmity against the laws, religion or tranquility of of Musselmen (Muslims), - and as the said States never have entered into any war or act of hostility against any Mehomitan nation, it is declared by the parties that no pretext arising from religious opinions shall ever produce an interruption of the harmony existing between the two countries."
-Treaty of Tripoli, signed into law by John Adams


In addition:

"I have found Christian dogma unintelligible...Some books on Deism fell into my hands...It happened that they wrought an effect on me quite contrary to what was intended by them; for the arguments of the deists, which were quoted to be refuted, appeared much stronger than the refutations; in short I soon became a thorough deist."
-Benjamin Franklin, "Toward the Mystery" (autobiography)

"When the clergy addressed General Washington on his departure from the government, it was observed in their consultation, that he had never, on any occasion, said a word to the public which showed a belief in the Christian religion, and they thought they should so pen their address, as to force him at length to declare publicly whether he was a Christian or not. They did so. However, the old fox was too cunning for them. He answered every article of their address particularly except that, which he passed over without notice....he never did say a word of it in any of his public papers...Governor Morris has often told me that General Washington believed no more of that (Christian) system than he himself did.
-Thomas Jefferson, diary entry, 2/1/1799

There is no mention of Christianity in the Constitution. This is not a Christian nation and people like you who promote fear and hatred do a disservice to the county that you claim to love. You may well take a lesson from Adams, and some of the other founders who were Christian. Faith is private and not to be foisted on others, and certainly not by government. You're the one who needs to get educated

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May 16, 2013 11:04:53   #
The Progressive Patriot
 
Every school child learns that the Enlightenment was the philosophical influence on our Founding Fathers. The Enlightenment was a secular movement that limited greatly the power of the Church, reducing it to purely ecclesiastical, rather than political, functions. Monarchy is the prevailing form of government for religious societies. Monarchs rule by divine right; their birth to a royal family signals they were chosen by God. Republics are led by men and chosen by men. Our government and our foundational texts were intended to be secular.
The whole idea of the US as a Christian nation stems from the mythology that all Europeans came to America fleeing religious persecution. This was important in the formation of the Massachusetts colony, but not throughout English America. Virginia was a royal company established for the crown's economic advancement. Georgia was a penal colony. The Carolinas were founded by s***eholders who migrated from the British sugar islands in the Caribbean. The reasons for the establishment of the colonies were varied, but the Founding Fathers were indeed deists. They were profoundly influenced by the Enlightenment and worked to create a secular form of government, a republic. If they'd wanted to create a Christian society, they would have kept monarchy as their chosen form of government.

by Robert Paul Reyes
MensNewsDaly.com

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