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Mar 4, 2021 15:31:50   #
LogicallyRight Loc: Chicago
 
woodguru wrote:
Abgortion is the answer if someone decides they do not want a baby...Period, end of discussion. You are free to believe wh**ever you want, but not to commit violence on a******n clinics.


How about going to the a******n clinics and praying for the unborn child and hoping that the Mother gives her child a right to also live their live.

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Mar 4, 2021 15:34:37   #
RandyBrian Loc: Texas
 
woodguru wrote:
Abgortion is the answer if someone decides they do not want a baby...Period, end of discussion. You are free to believe wh**ever you want, but not to commit violence on a******n clinics.


And yet it is not only ok, but encouraged, to commit violence against home owners, shop owners, and innocent bystanders if you are "outraged" because a few bad cops are r****t. OK. Got it.
By the way, just so we are clear, I have never seen anyone on OPP advocate violence against anyone.....except from the left. The very few a******n clinics that have been physically attacked were done by mentally ill people, whereas the various attacks by l*****ts are planned, financed, and directed by l*****t extremists.
What do you know.....I guess the discussion wasn't ended after all.

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Mar 4, 2021 15:49:28   #
permafrost Loc: Minnesota
 
Liberty Tree wrote:
It is if I have to.pay for the way they live their life



do you mean the life of the mother, or the future life of the unwanted child??

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Mar 4, 2021 15:55:46   #
permafrost Loc: Minnesota
 
RandyBrian wrote:
My friend, there is no moral difference in a******n and k*****g your 6 month old sick child for crying too much. Both can be argued that I am trying to tell someone how they must live their life. You know this, or you should.


I do not think life is in the glob of cells until the embryo is born and receives the breath of life from God..

but once again as always in the a******n threads, I must say that if no a******n ever happened I would be fine..

but that will not happen, laws to stop a******ns will only as before the 70s drive the procedure to the back room and dark of night procedures for the average woman. The rich and privleaged will fly to some other country and have it done this their hospital or clinic..



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Mar 4, 2021 16:03:04   #
RandyBrian Loc: Texas
 
permafrost wrote:
I do not think life is in the glob of cells until the embryo is born and receives the breath of life from God..

but once again as always in the a******n threads, I must say that if no a******n ever happened I would be fine..

but that will not happen, laws to stop a******ns will only as before the 70s drive the procedure to the back room and dark of night procedures for the average woman. The rich and privleaged will fly to some other country and have it done this their hospital or clinic..
I do not think life is in the glob of cells until ... (show quote)


I suspect you are right. But that does not justify murdering babies. Nothing does.
I acknowledge your belief about when a fetus becomes a person, but I absolutely believe that you are completely wrong. No offense intended, but it sounds like rationalization to me. Science seems to back up my contention that the embryo becomes an individual when the fertilization is complete and the new person is safely secured against the wall of the womb.

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Mar 4, 2021 16:15:25   #
permafrost Loc: Minnesota
 
Liberty Tree wrote:
Pregnancy by rape is extremely rare. Liberals want a******n for any reason. All the rest is just a smokescreen to cover that.


What we liberals want is that the rights of a woman are not determined by some old drit who has no involvement in her life.. it is her life and her decision, it does not matter if I disagree or you or anyone else..

It is all about the womans rights..

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Mar 4, 2021 16:21:07   #
permafrost Loc: Minnesota
 
RandyBrian wrote:
And yet it is not only ok, but encouraged, to commit violence against home owners, shop owners, and innocent bystanders if you are "outraged" because a few bad cops are r****t. OK. Got it.
By the way, just so we are clear, I have never seen anyone on OPP advocate violence against anyone.....except from the left. The very few a******n clinics that have been physically attacked were done by mentally ill people, whereas the various attacks by l*****ts are planned, financed, and directed by l*****t extremists.
What do you know.....I guess the discussion wasn't ended after all.
And yet it is not only ok, but encouraged, to comm... (show quote)


clearly you were not on OPP for all the thread on how to lynch President Obama and get away with it.. gee, think of how much you could joined in on..


some samples from those past posts. the same type pictures were posted for a******n clinics..

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Mar 4, 2021 16:32:39   #
permafrost Loc: Minnesota
 
RandyBrian wrote:
I suspect you are right. But that does not justify murdering babies. Nothing does.
I acknowledge your belief about when a fetus becomes a person, but I absolutely believe that you are completely wrong. No offense intended, but it sounds like rationalization to me. Science seems to back up my contention that the embryo becomes an individual when the fertilization is complete and the new person is safely secured against the wall of the womb.



That is fine Randy, I struggled with the issue for a long time.. never would agree to such an action but talked it over once..

The breath of life sentiment is backed up by a number of Bible verses.. They were first brought to my attention when I visited a liberal Christian site on the internet..

Just as we have long had conservative Christians. we also have some liberal Christians..

I found them very interesting..



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Mar 4, 2021 16:38:34   #
RascalRiley Loc: Somewhere south of Detroit
 
RandyBrian wrote:
Ridiculous. The victim is not being punished. She is suffering the undeserved consequences of an act of violence. Sad beyond description. I mourn for the pain it causes her. But whether it was her choice or not, she is the custodian of another living being for more or less nine months. Society should and does offer help in the situation. A******n is the murder of a human child. Or are you a science denier as well as a moral illiterate?


Society should help. Most often mother and child are neglected. If pro-life cared as much about life as they care about control of other people the a******n rate would that of other civilized countries. An child can be ticket to poverty.

The Conservative Myth of a Social Safety Net Built on Charity
https://amp.theatlantic.com/amp/article/284552/

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Mar 4, 2021 16:59:37   #
RascalRiley Loc: Somewhere south of Detroit
 
permafrost wrote:
I do not think life is in the glob of cells until the embryo is born and receives the breath of life from God..

but once again as always in the a******n threads, I must say that if no a******n ever happened I would be fine..

but that will not happen, laws to stop a******ns will only as before the 70s drive the procedure to the back room and dark of night procedures for the average woman. The rich and privleaged will fly to some other country and have it done this their hospital or clinic..
I do not think life is in the glob of cells until ... (show quote)


A return to the coat hanger.

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Mar 4, 2021 17:00:20   #
RandyBrian Loc: Texas
 
permafrost wrote:
clearly you were not on OPP for all the thread on how to lynch President Obama and get away with it.. gee, think of how much you could joined in on..


some samples from those past posts. the same type pictures were posted for a******n clinics..


No, I was not. I stand corrected, because those are horribly offensive and d********g. Personally, I think President Obama was wrong about almost everything, and I think he fully embraces the "end justifies the means" philosophy. However, he was also our President, and should be treated with respect. Just like President Trump should have, and President Biden should be. Respect for the office, at the very least.

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Mar 4, 2021 17:10:38   #
RascalRiley Loc: Somewhere south of Detroit
 
permafrost wrote:
clearly you were not on OPP for all the thread on how to lynch President Obama and get away with it.. gee, think of how much you could joined in on..


some samples from those past posts. the same type pictures were posted for a******n clinics..


Nothing beats a good old fashion lynching.

Sucks to be black in America. Had he been white he would have been, as the rest of the world sees him, one of America’s best presidents

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Mar 4, 2021 17:17:50   #
RandyBrian Loc: Texas
 
RascalRiley wrote:
A return to the coat hanger.


In some cases, probably yes. Therefore a******n should be legal, right? Let's apply your "logic" to murder. If daddy is going to get drunk and enraged and k**l one of his kids, we can't prevent it, correct? So let's make it legal, have in done in a hospital under the supervision of a doctor, and using humane medicines so the unwanted child will not suffer. That is SO much better than seeing an unloved child live in pain.
And let's apply it as well, to wives who no longer love or respect their husbands. Who needs that?
And what about applying it to husbands who do not properly provide for their family? Why should HER life suffer? It wasn't HER fault he got fat and lazy and started drinking. And don't suggest divorce. Too inconvenient and embarrassing.
Logic and reasoning can be so frustrating when you're a hypocrite, so let's just discard it when we want. Wonderful to have the instincts of a l*****t that let's you, with a clear conscience, pick and choose what you will apply logic to, and when you will avoid it. That's the wonderful advantage of the l*****t motto: The end always justifies the means.

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Mar 4, 2021 17:32:14   #
RandyBrian Loc: Texas
 
RascalRiley wrote:
Nothing beats a good old fashion lynching.

Sucks to be black in America. Had he been white he would have been, as the rest of the world sees him, one of America’s best presidents


What r****t nonsense you love to spout.
America is far from perfect, but we are one of the LEAST r****t in the world. President Obama was overwhelmingly v**ed into office BY SOME OF THE VERY PEOPLE YOU CONDEMN AS R****T. He was REELECTED 4 years later. Like a large minority of Americans, I did NOT v**e for him either time. It had NOTHING to do with his race, his skin color, his birthplace, or his religion, and EVERYTHING to do with the fact that when he first ran I do not believe he was qualified. The second time, he was qualified, but I disagreed with almost every policy he had. If I had v**ed for him BECAUSE he was black I would be as r****t as you are. No thank you. As for what the rest of the world thinks.....who cares? Are we going to listen to China about human rights? Iran about peace talks? Pakistan about women's rights? France about fortitude and dignity? Lots of good people in the world, but not a single country compares to what we have in the United States.
R****ts like you are who are keeping minorities from claiming their full potential in this Land of the Free.

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Mar 4, 2021 17:32:16   #
RascalRiley Loc: Somewhere south of Detroit
 
RandyBrian wrote:
In some cases, probably yes. Therefore a******n should be legal, right? Let's apply your "logic" to murder. If daddy is going to get drunk and enraged and k**l one of his kids, we can't prevent it, correct? So let's make it legal, have in done in a hospital under the supervision of a doctor, and using humane medicines so the unwanted child will not suffer. That is SO much better than seeing an unloved child live in pain.
And let's apply it as well, to wives who no longer love or respect their husbands. Who needs that?
And what about applying it to husbands who do not properly provide for their family? Why should HER life suffer? It wasn't HER fault he got fat and lazy and started drinking. And don't suggest divorce. Too inconvenient and embarrassing.
Logic and reasoning can be so frustrating when you're a hypocrite, so let's just discard it when we want. Wonderful to have the instincts of a l*****t that let's you, with a clear conscience, pick and choose what you will apply logic to, and when you will avoid it. That's the wonderful advantage of the l*****t motto: The end always justifies the means.
In some cases, probably yes. Therefore a******n s... (show quote)


Infanticide is common in human history and in nature.
Religion or the fairy tale give some a false mandate of authoritarian control

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