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Feb 21, 2021 14:03:46   #
lindajoy Loc: right here with you....
 
archie bunker wrote:
Seems then that it would be a poor choice for humans as well. If you compare body mass, and weight of deer, and humans, they're not far apart.

The fact is that you guys have no reasonable argument against the AR-15 other than the way it looks.
OK, ban 30 round mags. It's still the same gun.


So glad to see you!! I hope you fared well with all the issues going on in Texas regarding electricity and the water??

Your logic is too much for some to decipher..

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Feb 21, 2021 14:15:07   #
Carol Kelly
 
Coos Bay Tom wrote:
When I was a teenager I was often seen walking down the road by myself or with a group of teenagers all with a rifle or a shotgun. We were just hunting and nobody paid attention to us. We did not have mass shootings and cowards running around with their guns thinking they are tough. Times have changed and laws have to change. I do not believe people should be able to commit crimes with guns and retain their freedom or right to legally purchase a gun--that is just common sense. I have no problem with background checks because I know I can pass one.
The nutcases among us have brought us to the point where gun control is constantly brought up. So maybe people who have mental problems and anti government issues should have no right to a gun and should be locked up for the safety of society if they commit crimes with guns. People with no issues should still be able to own firearms for pleasure or for hunting as they are not the problem. Can you argue with that?
When I was a teenager I was often seen walking dow... (show quote)


No argument at all. Point made.

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Feb 21, 2021 16:33:26   #
coelacanth Loc: Michigan swamp
 
kemmer wrote:
AR-15s should be banned for private ownership. Their only purpose is to k**l humans.
. When seconds count, the police are minutes away. True then, true now.



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Feb 21, 2021 16:42:18   #
Coos Bay Tom Loc: coos bay oregon
 
lindajoy wrote:
True confirmed and determined by a Competency board or professional I agree with...

As for anti-government I guess I would ask you for a definition of what you mean by that. I mean after all we do have the right to defend ourselves against Tyranny, do we not?


I'll get a lot of flack here for this but what happened J****** 6th at the capitol was outrageous and every participant should be charged and never be allowed a fire arm ever. I know plenty of people who supported trump until then and it finally dawned on them that they were supporting a man who wanted to be a dictator. There was tyranny in action.

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Feb 21, 2021 18:38:39   #
lindajoy Loc: right here with you....
 
Coos Bay Tom wrote:
I'll get a lot of flack here for this but what happened J****** 6th at the capitol was outrageous and every participant should be charged and never be allowed a fire arm ever. I know plenty of people who supported trump until then and it finally dawned on them that they were supporting a man who wanted to be a dictator. There was tyranny in action.


You won’t get any flack from me, I agree with you.. I also know plenty that supported Trump and still do because they see it differently in who incited what and who did what or didn’t do... They also saw his speech of going with law and order, peacefully that was conveniently omitted in the Senate impeachment ..

I’ll likely get flack too but it is what it is and we all have our view of things... Just like all the politicians who have for years now contributed to inflaming and inciting, promoting h**e and division and putting out all their propaganda ( both sides) full of nothing but lies..

People will only take so much, especially on the heels of strong allegations the e******n was r****d. V****g rights are sacred and should be considered as such and protected as such... And before you say all lawsuits cleared those allegations, no, they didn’t.. They were dismissed on alleged technicalities not reviews of the issues..

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Feb 21, 2021 19:27:41   #
America 1 Loc: South Miami
 
kemmer wrote:
AR-15s should be banned for private ownership. Their only purpose is to k**l humans.


Guns Prevent Thousands of Crimes Every Day, Research Shows
Guns prevent an estimated 2.5 million crimes a year, or 6,849 every day.
Most often, the gun is never fired, and no blood (including the criminals) is shed.
Every year, 400,000 life-threatening violent crimes are prevented using firearms.
60 percent of convicted felons admitted that they avoided committing crimes when they knew the victim was armed.
Forty percent of convicted felons admitted that they avoided committing crimes when they thought the victim might be armed.
Felons report that they avoid entering houses where people are at home because they fear being shot.

Fewer than 1 percent of firearms are used in the commission of a crime.

If you doubt the objectivity of the site above, it’s worth pointing out that the Center for Disease Control, in a report ordered by President Obama in 2012 following the Sandy Hook Massacre, estimated that the number of crimes prevented by guns could be even higher—as many as 3 million annually, or some 8,200 every day.
Defensive Gun Use
In “Defensive Gun Use is More Than Shooting Bad Guys,” James Agresti, founder, and president of JustFacts provided overwhelming evidence from multiple sources showing that defensive gun use is more common and effective than anti-gun fanatics like The New York Times suggest or will admit.
Agresti says that “people who use a gun for defense rarely harm (much less k**l) criminals.
This is because criminals often back off when they discover their targets are armed.”
John Lott, author of the book, “More Guns, Less Crime,” is president of the Crime Prevention Research Center, another outstanding source for info on this subject. He writes:
By 66 percent to 32 percent, economists and criminologists answer that gun-free zones are “more likely to attract criminals than they are to deter them.” A 60 percent to 40 percent margin thinks that guns in the home do not increase suicides.
And a 62 percent to 35 percent spread says that guns are used in self-defense to stop crime more often than in the commission of a crime.
This may explain why even The New York Times hasn’t yet put a billboard up by its offices that screams, “This is a Gun-Free Zone. There are No Guns Here.”
If we can just confiscate the estimated 350 million guns in the country, you might ask, then won’t we eliminate the offensive use of firearms, so we won’t need any of those many defensive uses? Good luck with that.
Is there any reason to believe that such a war on guns would be any more successful than the government’s war on drugs?
Even a fifth-grader could tell you that it would be largely the innocent who would be disarmed.
Criminals would have no problem keeping their guns or getting replacements on a thriving black market.
So that leaves me with gratitude for the Ben McCoys of the world, the law-abiding gun owners who are every bit as important as the cops—and likely even more so—in the effort to keep the innocent safe and sound.
https://fee.org/articles/guns-prevent-thousands-of-crimes-every-day-research-show/

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Feb 21, 2021 19:41:25   #
jack sequim wa Loc: Blanchard, Idaho
 
Sicilianthing wrote:
>>>

What is your plan to stop 🛑 them ?



Dosen't matter what liberals think, l*****t congress, senate and puppet president make their own agenda.

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Feb 21, 2021 19:42:52   #
America 1 Loc: South Miami
 
lindajoy wrote:
You won’t get any flack from me, I agree with you.. I also know plenty that supported Trump and still do because they see it differently in who incited what and who did what or didn’t do... They also saw his speech of going with law and order, peacefully that was conveniently omitted in the Senate impeachment ..

I’ll likely get flack too but it is what it is and we all have our view of things... Just like all the politicians who have for years now contributed to inflaming and inciting, promoting h**e and division and putting out all their propaganda ( both sides) full of nothing but lies..

People will only take so much, especially on the heels of strong allegations the e******n was r****d. V****g rights are sacred and should be considered as such and protected as such... And before you say all lawsuits cleared those allegations, no, they didn’t.. They were dismissed on alleged technicalities not reviews of the issues..
You won’t get any flack from me, I agree with you.... (show quote)


CASHING IN Anti-Trump Capitol r****r John Sullivan ‘sold footage of DC attack to CNN & NBC for $70K’ after he ‘encouraged siege’
https://www.the-sun.com/news/2361205/anti-trump-capitol-r****r-sold-footage-70k/

Utah activist in Capitol r**t sold his video to CNN, NBC for $35K each, court docs say
Sullivan's politics remain unclear. He has described himself as a Trump opponent and Black L***s M****r supporter. But B*M activists in Utah have disowned him, saying he seemed intent on provoking violence at protests.
Sullivan is also currently facing criminal charges in Utah of organizing a protest in Provo last summer that resulted in one motorist being shot.
Charging documents say Sullivan recorded several hours of that June protest and is seen in the recordings "kicking vehicles and threatening drivers." He later admitted to police that he knew who the gunman was who shot a 60-year-old Provo man in the elbow after protesters blocked his vehicle, but Sullivan failed to report it to authorities, according to the charges.
https://www.ksl.com/article/50109510/utah-activist-in-capitol-r**t-sold-his-video-to-cnn-nbc-for-35k-each-court-docs-say

L*****t Capitol r****r sold a video of the
siege for $35K to NBC and CNN
John Sullivan maintains he is a journalist, but the feds say he participated in and encouraged the siege.
ACCUSED LEFT-WING CAPITOL ACTIVIST JOHN SULLIVAN FACING NEW CHARGES
"On J****** 6th, CNN was contacted by a reputable agent regarding an eye-witness video from the Capitol Hill r**ts. The company entered into a one-week agreement for use of 44-seconds of key content, which was attributed to the witness on air. When his role in the event was later called into question, the company informed staff to cease all use of the video," a CNN spokesperson said.
Sullivan was arrested soon after the r**t and indicted by a grand jury last week on six charges, including obstruction of an official proceeding, civil disorder, and disorderly conduct.
https://www.foxnews.com/media/l*****t-capitol-r****r-sold-video-of-siege-for-35k-to-nbc-and-cnn-court-papers

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Feb 21, 2021 19:54:28   #
archie bunker Loc: Texas
 
lindajoy wrote:
So glad to see you!! I hope you fared well with all the issues going on in Texas regarding electricity and the water??

Your logic is too much for some to decipher..


Doing well here. No power, or water problems either.
I was out in it every day, and still have my fingers, ears, and nose.

Still kinda waiting on the little fella downstairs to poke his head out again!

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Feb 21, 2021 20:16:53   #
lindajoy Loc: right here with you....
 
America 1 wrote:
CASHING IN Anti-Trump Capitol r****r John Sullivan ‘sold footage of DC attack to CNN & NBC for $70K’ after he ‘encouraged siege’
https://www.the-sun.com/news/2361205/anti-trump-capitol-r****r-sold-footage-70k/

Utah activist in Capitol r**t sold his video to CNN, NBC for $35K each, court docs say
Sullivan's politics remain unclear. He has described himself as a Trump opponent and Black L***s M****r supporter. But B*M activists in Utah have disowned him, saying he seemed intent on provoking violence at protests.
Sullivan is also currently facing criminal charges in Utah of organizing a protest in Provo last summer that resulted in one motorist being shot.
Charging documents say Sullivan recorded several hours of that June protest and is seen in the recordings "kicking vehicles and threatening drivers." He later admitted to police that he knew who the gunman was who shot a 60-year-old Provo man in the elbow after protesters blocked his vehicle, but Sullivan failed to report it to authorities, according to the charges.
https://www.ksl.com/article/50109510/utah-activist-in-capitol-r**t-sold-his-video-to-cnn-nbc-for-35k-each-court-docs-say

L*****t Capitol r****r sold a video of the
siege for $35K to NBC and CNN
John Sullivan maintains he is a journalist, but the feds say he participated in and encouraged the siege.
ACCUSED LEFT-WING CAPITOL ACTIVIST JOHN SULLIVAN FACING NEW CHARGES
"On J****** 6th, CNN was contacted by a reputable agent regarding an eye-witness video from the Capitol Hill r**ts. The company entered into a one-week agreement for use of 44-seconds of key content, which was attributed to the witness on air. When his role in the event was later called into question, the company informed staff to cease all use of the video," a CNN spokesperson said.
Sullivan was arrested soon after the r**t and indicted by a grand jury last week on six charges, including obstruction of an official proceeding, civil disorder, and disorderly conduct.
https://www.foxnews.com/media/l*****t-capitol-r****r-sold-video-of-siege-for-35k-to-nbc-and-cnn-court-papers
CASHING IN Anti-Trump Capitol r****r John Sullivan... (show quote)


I’m surprised this is still out... This is exactly what the left involved in this “ r**ting” don’t want exposed... Ruins their professed charge it was all Trump and Trumpets...

Even those with a small level of intelligence knows what went down in that horrific offensive attack and yet they will stand by the lies and false accusations just to rid Trump...

I hope they learn soon enough what compromising their own morals for their party will bring them... Trump is not gone...

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Feb 21, 2021 20:35:38   #
lindajoy Loc: right here with you....
 
archie bunker wrote:
Doing well here. No power, or water problems either.
I was out in it every day, and still have my fingers, ears, and nose.

Still kinda waiting on the little fella downstairs to poke his head out again!


LMAO you just made me laugh so hard I’ve still got tears streaming!!!!!! Here’s hoping the little fella springs forward before Spring arrives.. Otherwise, wellll nevahhhh mind~~~😱⚡️🗣🗣🗣

Glad you all are good!!! 💞 except for welllll 😁😁

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Feb 21, 2021 21:14:31   #
archie bunker Loc: Texas
 
lindajoy wrote:
LMAO you just made me laugh so hard I’ve still got tears streaming!!!!!! Here’s hoping the little fella springs forward before Spring arrives.. Otherwise, wellll nevahhhh mind~~~😱⚡️🗣🗣🗣

Glad you all are good!!! 💞 except for welllll 😁😁


He shows up after a long, hot shower, but as soon as I walk out, he retracts, and his two buddies hit me right in the chest!

I'm over this cold crap!!
I seriously don't know how people deal with this kind of cold every day.
Especially mail carriers.
We don't get enough respect!

"Neither snow, nor rain, nor gloom......

Whoever came up with that bullcrap was a dick!!

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Feb 21, 2021 21:34:18   #
America 1 Loc: South Miami
 
archie bunker wrote:
He shows up after a long, hot shower, but as soon as I walk out, he retracts, and his two buddies hit me right in the chest!

I'm over this cold crap!!
I seriously don't know how people deal with this kind of cold every day.
Especially mail carriers.
We don't get enough respect!

"Neither snow, nor rain, nor gloom......

Whoever came up with that bullcrap was a dick!!
He shows up after a long, hot shower, but as soon ... (show quote)


No Respect
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QA2xW_uFR0Q&list=RDqmHuDKNI23c&index=5

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Feb 21, 2021 21:34:41   #
lindajoy Loc: right here with you....
 
archie bunker wrote:
He shows up after a long, hot shower, but as soon as I walk out, he retracts, and his two buddies hit me right in the chest!

I'm over this cold crap!!
I seriously don't know how people deal with this kind of cold every day.
Especially mail carriers.
We don't get enough respect!

"Neither snow, nor rain, nor gloom......

Whoever came up with that bullcrap was a dick!!
He shows up after a long, hot shower, but as soon ... (show quote)


Yup!!! Lololololololl 🙃😂

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Feb 21, 2021 21:59:09   #
lindajoy Loc: right here with you....
 



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