Cuda2020

Pathetic, just really pathetic.

RandyBrian Loc: Texas

Said the sphere to the star.
An expert on too little knowledge and an overabundance of opinion.

RandyBrian Loc: Texas

Really? I thought I was just working with your metaphor.

RandyBrian Loc: Texas

Look, 'cuda. I think we all got a little too much into the sparring.
Let me explain something, and maybe we can just agree to disagree.
The police spot a man walking a long a street at night. They arrest him because there had been a murder an hour earlier nearby. Turns out the suspect and the victim h**ed each other and had a verbal altercation earlier in the day.
Is he charged with the murder? Shouldn't be. Nothing but circumstantial evidence. No witnesses. No murder weapon. All circumstantial.
Apply that to the gcc agenda. Proposed massive changes to our economy, our freedoms, and our culture. All mandatory. Probable bankruptcy and poverty for the majority of the people on the earth, with a related surge in disease and death.
All with little or no real evidence *, all with almost nothing but circumstantial evidence *, all with no agreed upon proof *, and all with nothing but speculation that the c*****e c****e is manmade *, and with little likelihood that the proposed changes will do any good *. The * denotes that these are MY opinions, and the opinions of many many scientists and researchers and other responsible thinkers.
So. Our conflict is WHAT is fact, what is opinion, and what is real evidence verses circumstantial.
Maybe all of us need to take the first step of finding some points of agreement on what constitutes credible evidence.
For my part, and for the reasons explained, none of the evidence presented is conclusive enough or critical enough to justify such drastic action as is being demanded.

Big Kahuna

You are right, high cholesterol is not the bugga boo that docs say it is. C-reactive protein is a better marker for c****ary disease and potential for a cardiomyopathy. Docs seldom test it unless you specifically ask for it.

Big Kahuna

L*****ts have no proof of c*****e c****e but yet they say conservatives have no proof of v***r f***d which is so much easier to prove.

ChJoe

C reactive protein can be high if there is any inflammatory process going on in the c****ary arteries but it can be high related to many other inflammatory processes.

nwtk2007 Loc: Texas

What are you worried about that will happen to man kind? Loss of coastal real estate? Y'all are cancelling the past anyway. Coastal real estate is obviously r****t. Look at the math!

RandyBrian Loc: Texas

I'm somewhat puzzled about that as well.
If the gcc activists are right (which I doubt) then some long term temperature changes will occur.
OK.
Is that necessarily a completely bad thing?
The best farm land will move northward. The overall climate will get warmer, meaning more heat related health issues and deaths, but fewer cold related ones. Coast lines will gradually change. Some people will loose their waterfront property (like the Obamas). Others will see their cheap off the beach yards become valuable sandy beaches.
ALL of the horror stories we are told.....cascading failure of the biosphere, ocean level rises of hundreds or thousands of feet, dead and burned dry desert everywhere not underwater, etc, are all highly speculative and unproven. Unlikely, and certainly not inevitable.

nwtk2007 Loc: Texas

Exactly.

Cuda2020

You never acknowledge ANY action to take, none, and no evidence is an absolute lie, but you go ahead and live with it, I don't care, but don't stop us from making improvements to the environment, that's more then stupid that's insane. There's been the same proof as when we addressed the ozone, and improved it, the same with red tide, the same proof with acid rain, the same with water damage from detergent's do I need to go on, all the evidence IS there, you being a denier doesn't make it all go away, you're simply another scared ostrich, stop telling me I'm not giving you evidence that's a lie. The point always goes back to doing something about it.

You folks deny man's impact, yet since this p******c, we've had cleaner air since decades...more proof of the destruction of man. We need to be responsible to what WE DO...Period.

Here's a story for you, a man goes to the doctor because he's having a hard time catching his breath, the doctor asks him if he smokes, he says yes, the doctor tells him he may not get cancer but will most probably get COPD, and he needs to quit smoking if he wants to live a long vital life, the man says well that's not for certain, I feel ok, thanks Doc, some years later the man's on an O2 machine and can't walk more than ten paces without getting out of breath, after a pathetic end of time, he dies. If only he had listen to the doctor and just quit smoking. The End.

Cuda2020

What a completely ignorant comment.

Cuda2020

https://earthobservatory.nasa.gov/features/GlobalWarming

https://www.nationalgeographic.com/environment/article/global-warming-effects

https://climate.nasa.gov/scientific-consensus/

https://www.academia.edu/15180958/Global_Warming_Causes_Effects_and_Solutions

https://www.livescience.com/topics/global-warming

https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/earthtalks-global-warming-harsher-winter/

The polar vortex is a normal, natural pattern that is stronger in the winter and tends to keep the coldest weather bottled up near the North Pole.
The six years from 2015 to 2020 were Earth's warmest six years in recorded history.
“It’s been unusual for a few weeks now – very, very crazy ... Totally topsy-turvy.”

Cuda2020

That's a bogus comment and you know it, done here with you.

permafrost Loc: Minnesota