The Republican problem (Page 2): 5..... have you looked at how many dems have left the party you support? Try some research into the walk away movement, there you will see thousands...

Weewillynobeerspilly Loc: North central Texas

saltwind 78 wrote:

I know at least five people that say they have left the GOP. In time this number will grow. Patriotic Republicans don't want to be associated with s******n.

5..... have you looked at how many dems have left the party you support? Try some research into the walk away movement, there you will see thousands upon thousands have bailed on the Democrat party..... 5?

Take a look for yourself, I'm not here to convince you of it..... its there for you to see.

JFlorio Loc: Seminole Florida

Weewillynobeerspilly wrote:

5..... have you looked at how many dems have left the party you support? Try some research into the walk away movement, there you will see thousands upon thousands have bailed on the Democrat party..... 5?

Take a look for yourself, I'm not here to convince you of it..... its there for you to see.

Didn't the i***ts predict the Tea Party would be the end of the Republican Party?

straightUp Loc: California

Milosia2 wrote:

Nothing.
They’re making themselves extinct .
I’m all for it.they’re not even businessmen anymore, they’re just greedy f*****ts.

It seems a few people got a little miffed at your words... Just to help clear things up a little bit - I think saltwind was asking what can be done to increase the number of "traditional" Republicans in the party. You know, the ones who DO care about business.

Otherwise, I totally agree with your sentiment... the deplorables, the tea baggers, the ones that call the "traditional" Republicans "RINOs" are incapable and utterly mindless. They have almost no chance of achieving anything other than disruption as shown by their s*******s attack on our capitol. And even though they h**e being called f*****ts, their actions clearly earn them that title.

Weewillynobeerspilly Loc: North central Texas

JFlorio wrote:

Didn't the i***ts predict the Tea Party would be the end of the Republican Party?

They did, I wouldn't call them i***ts for it though... free speech, right or wrong.

Weewillynobeerspilly Loc: North central Texas

straightUp wrote:

It seems a few people got a little miffed at your ... (show quote)

Miffed

how old are you? Lol..... miffed that the chosen words are absolutely not necessary, its enough with the Hitler and f*****t crap from both sides already.... that will not do anything but dig ourselves a deeper divided hole, two weeks ago I would have stepped off in that ass with both barrels of profanity laced disrespect........ not anymore, I want it to stop and have all you Dems over for a BBQ, we are missing out on 50% of possible friendships over stupid politics and taking sides... enough already, you are my neighbors and coworkers.... and thats it.

Like it was not that long ago.

straightUp Loc: California

JFlorio wrote:

Didn't the i***ts predict the Tea Party would be the end of the Republican Party?

I don't think there's really any difference between the Tea Party and the deplorables. It's the same bunch of narrow-minded, self-centered, creeps... they just dispensed with all the silly 18th century costumes and the pretense of constitutional process.

As it turns out, that ongoing mass of angry r****ds IS k*****g the Republican Party, which hasn't legislated anything significant for several years now. The party name might go on but the principals that once defined the conservative Republican party are dying.

JFlorio Loc: Seminole Florida

Weewillynobeerspilly wrote:

They did, I wouldn't call them i***ts for it though... free speech, right or wrong.

Sorry, I believe most progressives are i***ts when it comes to politics.

straightUp Loc: California

Weewillynobeerspilly wrote:

Miffed

how old are you? Lol.....

It's a word.

Weewillynobeerspilly wrote:

miffed that the chosen words are absolutely not necessary, its enough with the Hitler and f*****t crap from both sides already....

Is it enough? Have you thought for a minute that there might be a reason why all that "crap" is coming from both sides? F*****m isn't some complicated political theory... it's a word that applies to any political movement that matches the characteristics of Mussolini's F*****t Party. Like Mussolini, Trump made the same attempt to turn the most discontented citizens into an aggressive political force by playing into their angers, fears and prejudices. The parallels are striking enough to call Trumpism a form of American f*****m.

Weewillynobeerspilly wrote:

that will not do anything but dig ourselves a deeper divided hole,

Perhaps.

Weewillynobeerspilly wrote:

two weeks ago I would have stepped off in that ass with both barrels of profanity laced disrespect........ not anymore, I want it to stop and have all you Dems over for a BBQ, we are missing out on 50% of possible friendships over stupid politics and taking sides... enough already, you are my neighbors and coworkers.... and thats it.

Like it was not that long ago.

I do appreciate what you are saying here willy. It's a good thought, but I think you underestimate the history and perhaps the severity of what's happening.

The disenfranchised Americans that Trump tried to leverage has been growing in size since America passed its peak in the mid-70's and started to decline. The only reason why it seems they are suddenly appearing is that Republican leadership in the past has always been able to put a lid on it. Trump on the other hand, accelerated it.

I would love to join you in the call for unity, especially since I am concerned about the real conflict between the 99% and the 1%. As far as I am concerned the plutocracy is the real enemy here... enemy to ALL working Americans and their families.

I'm hoping we can all figure that out before the "ideological" division between us, contrived by the plutocrats themselves becomes irreversible.

straightUp Loc: California

JFlorio wrote:

Sorry, I believe most progressives are i***ts when it comes to politics.

I'm always fascinated by the way conservatives will on one hand, blame progressive policies for ruining this country while on the other hand, they call them "i***ts when it comes to politics".

How exactly do "i***ts when it comes to politics" find so much success in pushing their policies to the point of changing America?

Are they just very successful i***ts? Or is their opposition so weak that they can't even beat the i***ts?

JFlorio Loc: Seminole Florida

straightUp wrote:

I'm always fascinated by the way conservatives will on one hand, blame progressive policies for ruining this country while on the other hand, they call them "i***ts when it comes to politics".

How exactly do "i***ts when it comes to politics" find so much success in pushing their policies to the point of changing America?

Are they just very successful i***ts? Or is their opposition so weak that they can't even beat the i***ts?

Just so you know, I draw a big distinction between Progressives and liberals. Progressive policies are followed by the useful progressive i***ts. The i***ts don't understand those policies do not do what they are advertised to do. The progressives pushing these policies are themselves, evil, smart. Their policies don't enrich the average Americans life. They give themselves ever more power and control. For instance; all Biden's E.O., that k**led the pipeline did was throw a bunch of Americans out of work when they can least afford it. The useful i***ts think k*****g this pipeline somehow reduces carbon emissions. K*****g the pipeline actually increases carbon emissions. All the examples given just prove to me that people (a majority) no longer strive to be free. They strive to be taken care of.

American Vet

straightUp wrote:

I assume you are asking what can be done to increa... (show quote)

"We can find similar rifts in the Democratic Party but the more extreme factions aren't getting the same traction on the Democrat side as they are on the Republican side. The moderates have far more control of their party on the left. "

I will have to disagree with this comment. It seems the l*****t have taken control of the Democratic Party, drowning out the more moderate democrats.

JFlorio Loc: Seminole Florida

American Vet wrote:

"We can find similar rifts in the Democratic Party but the more extreme factions aren't getting the same traction on the Democrat side as they are on the Republican side. The moderates have far more control of their party on the left. "

I will have to disagree with this comment. It seems the l*****t have taken control of the Democratic Party, drowning out the more moderate democrats.

Are there even any moderate Democrats?

saltwind 78 Loc: Murrells Inlet, South Carolina

American Vet wrote:

Got any cites to back up the claim some are joinin... (show quote)

American, I heard this claim from Republican conservatives, not Trumplicans on CNN, and MSNBC. I know that you consider these news sources, "false news", but time will tell.

American Vet

JFlorio wrote:

Are there even any moderate Democrats?

It's hard to tell. When they voice a moderate position, the 'woke' crowd gores for blood.

JFlorio Loc: Seminole Florida

straightUp wrote:

I don't think there's really any difference betwee... (show quote)

You're such an egotistical blowhard. I was a member of the Tea Party when I lived in Ohio. Very diverse. Lots of blue collar workers, teachers and people from all backgrounds. We never called for i**********ns, violence, or r**ts. We left our rally areas cleaner than they were when we arrived. You just chided me for calling progressives i***ts yet you call the Tea Party r****ds and deplorables. The Tea Party was responsible for Republican wins in both the Senate and House. Using your logic; how does that make them r****ds? I'm quite sure you never attended a Tea Party meeting or rally. Most the time our criticisms were actually geared towards Republican politicians who were not living up to their campaign promises. Every meeting we had we invited a local or House Democrat and Republican. The Republican always showed and Democrat never did. You would have been shocked if you saw the percentage of members that were registered Democrats and Independents. We all wanted pretty much the same results for the country. We just had different ideas on how to get there. I do not believe we all want the same thing for the country anymore. I am sure the left doesn't want what the majority of Americans want.