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Jan 25, 2021 10:22:28   #
EmilyD
 
moldyoldy wrote:
He will have to pay his own way, which will be harder if he is bankrupt.


He is not bankrupt. Wishful thinking never got anyone anywhere.

Trump will be just fine. Clinton is fine. Impeachment is just a political process. In fact, Trump said he wouldn't mind if they impeached him four or five more times - it would be amusing to him.

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Jan 25, 2021 11:03:52   #
tactful Loc: just North of the District of LMAO
 
kemmer wrote:
We'll find out if it's "unconstitutional" when the trial starts on Feb. 9th, won't we.


The possibility of impeachment could be a source of contention,
BUT,
YOU all can Bet your Confefe
As a private. Citizen pending Criminal charges never will be until the statute runs out, and I'm not sure how or if it applies to manslaughter on a grand scale never seen before, through ineptness for those who need it spelled out.

He bought a piece of history ,a walled fortress on an island off the coast of Florida with the donations sent for the legal defense, one has to wonder if he also thinks it's impervious to federal law and state authorities?
If so,
It's a huge error on their part.

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Jan 25, 2021 17:20:53   #
IdahoLady
 
PeterS wrote:
Even so, Trump better get his lawyers together and he needs to hit his supporters up to pay for it because there is going to be a trial where I am sure they will argue that the proceeding is unconstitutional. Judge Roberts will be right there so I am sure it won't take any time whatsoever to figure out the constitutionality of the proceedings...


Judge Robert’s has declined and this trial is unconstitutional

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Jan 25, 2021 17:43:54   #
ChJoe
 
Kevyn wrote:
In an interesting development a secret v**e on the verdict in Trumps upcoming trial is being seriously considered. This would allow senators to v**e their conscience rather than worry about retaliation from members of Trumps death cult. If this is the case and the trial is based on evidence Trumps goose is cooked.


When y'all v**e on the Biden articles of impeachment they should have a secret v**e! In fact, all v**es by the Congress should be secret! They'd get so much done!!!

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Jan 25, 2021 17:52:49   #
moldyoldy
 
IdahoLady wrote:
Judge Robert’s has declined and this trial is unconstitutional


SCOTUS is not required for this trial.

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Jan 25, 2021 17:54:11   #
BigJim
 
I would hope that in a secret v**e many Democrats would v**e to acquit since they would not have to worry about party loyalty. The invasion started 10 min before the end of Trump's speech, which did not call for violence and would take 40 min for anyone to walk from the speech so the incitement to erection(Schumer's word, i**********n just as stupid) charge is ridiculous. Democrats know this and I think many are honorable, but feel trapped by the circumstance.

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Jan 25, 2021 18:37:52   #
moldyoldy
 
BigJim wrote:
I would hope that in a secret v**e many Democrats would v**e to acquit since they would not have to worry about party loyalty. The invasion started 10 min before the end of Trump's speech, which did not call for violence and would take 40 min for anyone to walk from the speech so the incitement to erection(Schumer's word, i**********n just as stupid) charge is ridiculous. Democrats know this and I think many are honorable, but feel trapped by the circumstance.


trump had been inciting since November third.

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Jan 25, 2021 19:05:09   #
tactful Loc: just North of the District of LMAO
 
moldyoldy wrote:
trump had been inciting since November third.


you mean that’s publicly verified? it was seen in Orlando and who knows how many other love festivals he had,none of whom received their first nickel BTW,that if any were brilliant they would all be filing civil suits to add to the various other unmentioned charges,that’ll likely stay that way until other decisions get made,constitutionally.

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Jan 25, 2021 19:31:04   #
moldyoldy
 
tactful wrote:
you mean that’s publicly verified? it was seen in Orlando and who knows how many other love festivals he had,none of whom received their first nickel BTW,that if any were brilliant they would all be filing civil suits to add to the various other unmentioned charges,that’ll likely stay that way until other decisions get made,constitutionally.


Not to mention plotting to fire anyone who would not claim that there was fraud.

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Jan 25, 2021 21:03:21   #
tactful Loc: just North of the District of LMAO
 
moldyoldy wrote:
Not to mention plotting to fire anyone who would not claim that there was fraud.


10 - 4
it is old news now and the horse is expired .... time to move onward and upward.

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Jan 26, 2021 00:30:30   #
JW
 
moldyoldy wrote:
SCOTUS is not required for this trial.


The Constitution requires that Trump be judged by the Chief Justice of the Supreme Court.

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Jan 26, 2021 00:42:14   #
WEBCO
 
PeterS wrote:
Even so, Trump better get his lawyers together and he needs to hit his supporters up to pay for it because there is going to be a trial where I am sure they will argue that the proceeding is unconstitutional. Judge Roberts will be right there so I am sure it won't take any time whatsoever to figure out the constitutionality of the proceedings...


Judge Roberts is not going to be there. That should tell you "the constitutionality of the proceedings"

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Jan 26, 2021 03:19:57   #
Boy from the Bronx
 
EmilyD wrote:
IF the Dems try to have an impeachment of a private citizen, then we will see what they think of the Constitution. It's common knowledge that they want to get rid of the Constitution and make up their own laws anyway.


Oh, like Trump had any respect for the Constitution? This is a man who fired members of his staff for disagreeing with him (a violation of the right of Free Speech), who tried to destroy the media for criticizing him (violating the right of a Free Press), who ordered federal agents to use force against peaceful protesters in Chicago and other cities, to arrest them without charges or just cause, load them into unmarked cars and trucks and spirit them away to unknown locations, to lock them up indefinitely, to not allow them access to telephones to get help in proving their innocence (violating their right of peaceful assembly, the right to petition, the right to legal counsel, the right to bail, the right of habeas corpus), ordering similar methods against equally peaceful protesters in Washington DC itself for the purpose of chasing them away from the vicinity of a church, so he could pose in front of the church with a Bible in his hand (UPSIDE DOWN, YET!), just to put himself in good with those equally hypocritical religious fundamentalists, who advocated the use of extralegal methods against r****rs and alleged criminals, including summary executions without a fair trial (a violation of the Fifth, Sixth, and Fourteenth Amendments), who supported the torturing of suspected terrorists to make them confess (breaking the Fifth Amendment guarantee against self-incrimination and the Eighth Amendment prohibition of "cruel and unusual punishments"), who talked about running for a third term as President (violating the 22nd Amendment, which limits the President to only two four-year terms, an Amendment that, ironically, was supported by REPUBLICANS, who disapproved of Franklin Delano Roosevelt being elected four times), who suggested that he should be President-For-Life, even though nothing in the Constitution allows such things, not to mention the fact that being a President-For-Life is tantamount to being a DICTATOR, which is how Trump often acted like, who even thought he had a right to reign supreme, that he could run the Government in any way he pleased, no matter how unconstitutional it was, that he didn't have to get consent from Congress, and that he could ignore any Supreme Court ruling against him (when the High Court did declare one of his policies to be unconstitutional, Trump, in his usual, petulant, childish way, whined that "the Supreme Court doesn't like me"), something that would go against the constitutional requirement of the checks and balances and the balance of power that has maintained our constitutional form of Government, thus preventing any member of the Government from obtaining too much power, which would only lead to a dictatorship, which is basically what Trump wanted for HIMSELF! Furthermore, there were all his Republican supporters and enablers who were more than willing to help him gain that sort of Un-American power.

And yet, we're supposed to believe that only the DEMOCRATS wanted to "destroy the Constitution"?

LOL!!! 😂🤣😆😁

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Jan 26, 2021 04:17:44   #
Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON
 
PeterS wrote:
Still living in that would you created out of fallacies I see. And if we had 40 to 41 million fraudulent v**es how is it Democrat didn't sweep the house and the senate? If we had committed the fraud you suggest we wouldn't need to worry about finding 17 republicans to convict Trump at his trial, would we? Yet we do, imagine that...
I can't help you with your fallacies, Pete, nor can I do a damned thing about your denial. In your twisted mind, everyone who is not a flaming liberal is a walking fallacy full of conspiracy theories.

Fact is, v***r f***d occurred on a massive scale primarily in the battleground states. It was the most diabolical plan to o*******w an e******n ever perpetrated on the American people. Violations of our Constitution and of state v****g laws occurred with unprecedented aggression against the Rule of Law.

Based on political and v****g statistics, Joe Biden could not possibly have won the e******n without launching what he himself called the "most extensive and inclusive v***r f***d organization in the history of American politics."

FYI: Even the most rigorous scholarship will not reveal one word by any of our founders on impeaching a private citizen. It is not in our Constitution, never mentioned in the Federalist Papers, nor has such a thing ever occurred in our history.

The US Congress is the legislative branch of government, it is not a court of law with enforcement power. Impeachment is the Constitutional process of charging a high government official with an offense for the purpose of removing him or her from office. IOW, Congress cannot impeach or try an impeachment of a private citizen.

Donald Trump is now a private citizen, and any attempt to try him in the Senate now would be entirely unconstitutional - just another political sham.

BTW: President Trump DID NOT incite an i**********n. This is an undeniable fact that flaming h**eful liberals will never accept.

I**********n fever started almost a year ago, lives were lost, businesses and homes were lost, property in the millions lost. And apparently is isn't over, the big Blue cities of Portland and Seattle seem entirely unable to quell i**********ns.

So, stow your fallacies, Pete, I'm sure there are others, but speaking for myself, I'm way past tired of your incessant and irrational bulls**t about fallacies. You got them coming out of every orifice.

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Jan 26, 2021 13:54:59   #
ChJoe
 
Boy from the Bronx wrote:
Oh, like Trump had any respect for the Constitution? This is a man who fired members of his staff for disagreeing with him (a violation of the right of Free Speech), who tried to destroy the media for criticizing him (violating the right of a Free Press), who ordered federal agents to use force against peaceful protesters in Chicago and other cities, to arrest them without charges or just cause, load them into unmarked cars and trucks and spirit them away to unknown locations, to lock them up indefinitely, to not allow them access to telephones to get help in proving their innocence (violating their right of peaceful assembly, the right to petition, the right to legal counsel, the right to bail, the right of habeas corpus), ordering similar methods against equally peaceful protesters in Washington DC itself for the purpose of chasing them away from the vicinity of a church, so he could pose in front of the church with a Bible in his hand (UPSIDE DOWN, YET!), just to put himself in good with those equally hypocritical religious fundamentalists, who advocated the use of extralegal methods against r****rs and alleged criminals, including summary executions without a fair trial (a violation of the Fifth, Sixth, and Fourteenth Amendments), who supported the torturing of suspected terrorists to make them confess (breaking the Fifth Amendment guarantee against self-incrimination and the Eighth Amendment prohibition of "cruel and unusual punishments"), who talked about running for a third term as President (violating the 22nd Amendment, which limits the President to only two four-year terms, an Amendment that, ironically, was supported by REPUBLICANS, who disapproved of Franklin Delano Roosevelt being elected four times), who suggested that he should be President-For-Life, even though nothing in the Constitution allows such things, not to mention the fact that being a President-For-Life is tantamount to being a DICTATOR, which is how Trump often acted like, who even thought he had a right to reign supreme, that he could run the Government in any way he pleased, no matter how unconstitutional it was, that he didn't have to get consent from Congress, and that he could ignore any Supreme Court ruling against him (when the High Court did declare one of his policies to be unconstitutional, Trump, in his usual, petulant, childish way, whined that "the Supreme Court doesn't like me"), something that would go against the constitutional requirement of the checks and balances and the balance of power that has maintained our constitutional form of Government, thus preventing any member of the Government from obtaining too much power, which would only lead to a dictatorship, which is basically what Trump wanted for HIMSELF! Furthermore, there were all his Republican supporters and enablers who were more than willing to help him gain that sort of Un-American power.

And yet, we're supposed to believe that only the DEMOCRATS wanted to "destroy the Constitution"?

LOL!!! 😂🤣😆😁
Oh, like Trump had any respect for the Constitutio... (show quote)


"like Trump had any respect for the Constitution? This is a man who fired members of his staff for disagreeing with him (a violation of the right of Free Speech), who tried to destroy the media for criticizing him (violating the right of a Free Press), " Just this one alone shows how little you understand the constitution. Disagreement is not a violation of free speech. Firing an employee for spouting stupidity is not a violation of free speech.

LOL! Your entire comment is laced with a deep lack of knowledge. Is English your third language?

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