SSDD

I do watch the news as well as read it, though to be totally honest, reading is better as you get more of the story. Perhaps it MAY have been reported on and I didn't catch it but I also haven't read about it either, are you sure it was covered by legitimate sources?

Many preferred sites Trumplicans favor for their news are fringe RW media with piss poor track record on reporting actual facts. Recall the CT regarding D******n v****g machines? At least two Trumplican preferred sites have been forced to retract their repeated coverage of false claims regarding the v**er machines, Newmax and American Thinker, you guys love those two.


https://dailycaller.com/2021/01/16/american-thinker-statement-retracting-d******n-v****g-claims/ (RW biased, 6+ failed fact checks, a Trumplican's prime source)

https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2021/01/statement.html (the horse's mouth)

https://www.newsmax.com/us/smartmatic-d******n-v****g-systems-software-e******n/2020/12/19/id/1002355/ (horse's mouth)

https://thehill.com/homenews/media/531153-newsmax-issues-clarification-on-smartmatic-d******n-claims (slight RW bias, honest reporting, a Trumplican's "f**e news")

https://www.thewrap.com/newsmax-admits-no-evidence-of-v****g-machine-fraud-after-smartmatic-threatens-lawsuit/ (I don't know this site, MBFC claims site has left-center bias mixed factuality, 2 listed failed fact checks, one rated "unproven" one rated false, Trumplicans will rate as f**e news)


This is why I insist on LEGITIMATE sources, not Trumplican preferred news sources. I prefer ACTUAL news over f**e news.

Rose42

Again with the over the top arrogance rumitoid. This is why many have no patience for your blather. And blather it certainly is.

Rose42

He can’t discern whats true and what isn’t because he doesn’t see that his “legitimate” sources he “insists” on lie too.

Kickaha Loc: Nebraska

When I see it on CNN, MSNBC, NBC, etc. calling out the likes of Katie Couric, AOC, an editor of Forbes for the statements they made, I can be reasonably assured that their comments were truly over the line as they tend to hold similar views. I do like to hear what both extremes have to say. When you know the slant of a source, you can usually adjust for their bias. Also each side will have slightly different story choices, so you can find something the other side chose not to cover.
You have to admit that it is sometimes fun just to see what crazy story the far right or left comes up with. You either shake your head wondering how they came up with something that crazy or you have a good laugh. I know you're guilty of that as most of the rest of us.

SSDD

I don't do cable news and I don't typically watch NBC news either. I will admit that there HAVE been times when I have had excess free time, not often, but some, where I have looked at some fringe articles, I just don't care for them much, too much bile spewing from RW fringe and LW fringe, while the wording tends to be less "angry", it too shows a fair bit of contempt for the opposing side. Don't we get enough of that here on OPP?

jwrevagent

How does anyone, righty or lefty, Trump or Biden supporter decide what is or is not "f**e news"? It has been my experience in listening to all the various news outlets, right and left, MSNBC, CNN, or Fox News, that they have little substance to back up claims-it is mostly the party line, as you can tell when they use the same phrases and words-like "existential threat", and nonsense like that. They do not back up their stories with any evidence or sources-and the ubiquitous "reliable sources" or "anonymous sources" mean nothing, of course. I am thinking it means they have no real source at least nothing reliable. Thus, I believe nothing that comes out of MSM or Washington, or Madison WI, and barely believe what I see in my city council gatherings. I do dig for information, but since most information is heavily censored or hidden, I cannot be sure of anything I find. And that is exactly the way they want it. Controlling what we read, or do not find to read, or hear is paramount to the final destruction of wh**ever few freedoms we have left. And so the US hurls headlong into anarchy and mediocrity and finally into the abyss of former great countries. And we did it to ourselves-such a shame, really.

SSDD

There are many ways but one of the best by far is to do your own fact checking, using LEGITIMATE facts and data. You really should try it, the information isn't so "hidden" or "obscure" as you claim. That is merely lies one tells when they are too lazy to do any real leg work. There ARE some facts and data that DOES get hidden or obscured but that does not tend to be the norm for everyday information, just certain specific types of information. I couldn't help but notice a certain heavy dose of paranoia in your post, perhaps you should consider getting checked out, just to be sure there isn't any underlying issues.

jwrevagent

Thanks for the kind words-I have never been considered "lazy", so on that point you are quite wrong. I am willing to look at any source-it is just that I cannot be certain which sources are genuine in their statements-I have been lied to often enough, and even believed enough lies in my life that I am especially leery of anything coming out of MSM or Washington, or Madison WI, the state in which I currently reside. As to paranoia, you know nothing about me or my background, so that is quite an indictment-rather careless, I would say. I am skeptical, of course, but hardly paranoid-actually more a pushover in many ways......hence, the skepticism.

SSDD

It isn't sources you should be looking for, it is facts. You confirm the legitimacy of sources by confirming the facts, not by seeking new sources, unless you mean sources of facts that is. Though, if enough sources from varying points along the political spectrum report the same "facts", that can offer you a soft confirmation. As for the paranoia, it is quite evident with most of what you write. Paranoia is nothing but an unfounded, irrational or exaggerated fear not based on any actual, current and active danger or peril. Skepticism is one thing, the feeling of not being able to trust anything, especially if that distrust is not well founded or is exaggerated, that isn't skepticism, that is paranoia. If you will look around, check out fact checking sites, check out MBFC, do your own fact checking, you will find that much of the MSM that you so severely distrust, that distrust is DEFINITELY UNFOUNDED! I am not saying that they may not flub a story or two, just that when they get it wrong, they typically DO make some attempt to put things right, perhaps not on page one but let's be honest, corrections, while important information, is not front page material. Most of the fringe RW media sources that most Trumplicans claims are the only true sources of facts and t***h, are anything but, they typically have many failed fact checks and are masters of spin, propaganda CTs and lies, and when they get it wrong, they keep pushing the story, unless a viable law suit is threatened or filed, then they cop to their lies. A simple, quick DIY fact check can unravel much of their content.

Why is it that so many that are so paranoid are so easily fooled by ACTUAL f**e news and so severely distrust legitimate news sources? Perhaps because those spewing the f**e news also confirm and justify the paranoia and unfounded fears of their target audience. People love to hear that their own mental illness isn't actually mental illness but instead a rational and founded fear. Bias confirmation, a very powerful tool in manipulating those prone to fall for such tactics. Another tool for manipulating rubes is to play on their emotions, if an article is loaded down with "loaded wording", ask yourself why the writer felt the need to use so many "loaded words" to get their point across. "Loaded wording", if sparsely sprinkled about an article, not too troubling, if densely littered throughout the article, cause for concern. Op/Ed, while sometimes based on legitimate facts and little if any opinion not sufficiently founded and based in facts, most seems to be light in facts and heavy in opinion so NOT typically a good source for valid information.

You may feel that I am far too biased, you may feel that I am too harsh on "your side", you may feel that I am far too opinionated, you may even think that I am way off base... You are entitled to your feelings, you are entitled to your opinions, but consider what I say, think about what I say, does it make sense? Does it seem, feel or prove out to be factual and/or reality based? Do ANY of my suggestions feel, seem or prove out to be leading you down the path to mis-information or into harm's way? I am brash, I am harsh, often times unfriendly, I am not always this way, when not inundated with dis-information, propaganda, CTs and lies, with a heavy dose of ignorance, illogical fallacies, alternative reality, fiction posing as facts and lies, I can be quite friendly, open, often times funny and sometimes even charming. All I ever really expect from others is an open mindedness, a willingness to look at and perhaps accept facts, t***h, reality. Is that REALLY too much to ask?

jwrevagent

I do believe that you are way off base in your conclusions about the state of my mind-but it is OK with me if you think I am paranoid and borderline nuts-or even nuts. I give that opinion the same rating as any other opinion from some one who has no clue as to what my background is, or what my education, or even my religious beliefs are-certainly not any of my experiences-so you are entitled to draw wh**ever conclusions you wish. But please stop pretending to be the only one openminded in this discussion-it is apparent that, even with your lack of actual first hand knowledge of any of the above, you make pronouncements based on assumptions with no basis in fact. My opinions are simply that, and subject to change when given the facts you seem to think are the end all and be all of everything. My moods are many and varied, and my relationships are the same. I have visited psychiatrists, and talked to social workers. You sound very much like my ex husband, and he was not very good at reading me either. And with that, I am done here. Thank you for your thoughts.

SSDD

Okay then, if you think that you are RATIONALLY fearful, please explain the rationality of fearing speculative claims of what the Democrats MAY do, even if/when nobody relevant has made any such claims and these feared actions, unconfirmed, bear no precedent in recent American history nor in most/all cases, distant American history. Where is the rationality of fearing something that is HIGHLY improbable, if not implausible. I can understand why YOU can not see your own paranoia, paranoid people typically think their irrational fears are in fact rational, of course that does nothing to change the actual irrationality of their irrational fears.

IF there is a likely, plausible danger/peril coming one's way, fear of it IS rational, if they are unconfirmed rumors of an unlikely, implausible threat coming one's way, fear of it is irrational.

Delusions may also present in those suffering from paranoia, or irrational, excessive fearfulness. Often times paranoia is a result of delusions. Of course you are correct, I HAVE never met you face to face, that doesn't mean one can't recognize potential symptoms, patterns of behavior and/or warming signs to watch out for.

Various symptoms of either delusions and/or irrational/excessive fearfulness can be found in the following posts:


https://www.onepoliticalplaza.com/t-207209-6.html#3610830

Belief that there was in fact e******n f***d/v***r f***d without supporting evidence or facts to support such beliefs.

Belief in an unfounded conspiracy theory, theorizing impropriety within ALL relevant courts in regards to unfounded e******n f***d allegations.

Belief in unfounded CTs regarding H****r and/or Joe Biden.

inability to trust the government AT ALL, a skepticism in regards to the government, completely understandable, complete inability to trust the government in part and/or in entirety, never a good sign.


https://www.onepoliticalplaza.com/t-207396-2.html#3609335


Anarchy? Dictatorship? Facts/precedent in American history to support these fears? If not, that would be called an irrational fear based on the delusion that Democrats are "evil incarnate", as you so frequently insinuate and even outright proclaim. Any facts to support your delusional, irrational opinion of the Democratic party?

Irrational refusal to accept ACTUAL facts as pertaining to Trump. The irrational delusion that ANYBODY had to twist Trump's words or actions to make him look bad.

The irrational inability to accept the t***h about Trump's pathological inability to tell the t***h, even on matters of no consequence.

The irrational inability to see reality. What is with those false claims that Biden will not speak with the press, he has done so many times in the past, the present and I see no reason to believe that the future will not follow current visible trends.

Recurring inability to trust legitimate journalists, oddly enough, you have no trouble trusting crack pots, doesn't that appear odd?



Oh this is fun and all too easy....



https://www.onepoliticalplaza.com/t-207328-1.html#3609287


Re-education camps? Really? You REALLY, REALLY, honestly believe those are in our future? Do you REALLY consider that a RATIONAL fear?




What the hell... Let's do one more and call it good... For now...



https://www.onepoliticalplaza.com/t-207328-1.html#3610806


So... I suppose that you honestly believe that we (I will assume America, based on context) are on the path to destruction. Care to give an educated guess on the expected timetable or timeline to "destruction"? Hint, the further into the future you set it to, the harder to disprove. Go nuts, take a guess. Oops, my bad, that was rather insensitive considering your suspected mental condition.

Rose42

She said she was done so you can stop your yip yap.

America 1 Loc: South Miami

No suspect whatsoever on considering your mental condition.
Proved beyond a doubt with every post.

SSDD

Yup, I AM much saner than so many here, you are right. I use logic and rationality to discern what is real from what is false, would sure love to see more people here do the same. Perhaps if they did, Trump wouldn't have had nearly as many supporters as he did.

Rose42

Extreme arrrogance always gives you away.