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Jan 12, 2021 23:02:49   #
dtucker300 Loc: Vista, CA
 
Bad Bob wrote:
Today, the existing communist states in the world are in China, Cuba, Laos and Vietnam. These communist states often do not claim to have achieved socialism or communism in their countries but to be building and working toward the establishment of socialism in their countries.


RUBE, you left out N. Korea. It doesn't really matter what they are working toward or claim. Several totalitarian regimes use the word Democracy or Democratic in their name and they in no way resemble a democracy, now, do they.

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Jan 13, 2021 00:09:54   #
Unintended Consequences
 
SWMBO wrote:
It cannot be returned to one country with slight differences between parties because one half wants a system that is primarily free market capitalism with a small amount of democrat socialism thrown in. The other side(the one that will be in power in a few days) wants a one world communist government with a small number of people in control of everyone else, with serious penatilies for disobeying the rules set by the dictators in charge.

"a one world communist government" what the hell does that mean "Instead of alienating our allies, we will go back to working with them.
small number of people in control " Biden has nominated dozens of experienced people for his cabinet and federal agencies. Unlike Trump, who thought he had the answer to everything.., Biden will call upon the expertise of these people to make his decisions.
"disobeying the rules" I suppose you don't want to wear a mask. So can you go into a restaurant with no clothes? Can you disregard a red light when you don't want to wait? Rules are made for your own good. They don't do any good unless everyone follows them,

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Jan 13, 2021 02:34:45   #
The Ms.
 
Unintended Consequences wrote:
"a one world communist government" what the hell does that mean "Instead of alienating our allies, we will go back to working with them.
small number of people in control " Biden has nominated dozens of experienced people for his cabinet and federal agencies. Unlike Trump, who thought he had the answer to everything.., Biden will call upon the expertise of these people to make his decisions.
"disobeying the rules" I suppose you don't want to wear a mask. So can you go into a restaurant with no clothes? Can you disregard a red light when you don't want to wait? Rules are made for your own good. They don't do any good unless everyone follows them,
"a one world communist government" what ... (show quote)
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So you think that you are safe because you believe that politicians you do not have a clue about are looking out for you, they are making rules for your safety , they really care about you, they know that you are not capable of making informed decisions for yourself.... you know they would never break the Covid rules they made for you.....they would never get their hair done at a salon closed to the public , not wearing a mask ( Crazy Nancy) .... go to a restaurant for their buddies birthday party ,no masks ( Newsom)
Cancel New Year Eve celebration for the public and then be seen dancing in Time’s Square ( Cuomo)....
They would never stoke fear in the public over a virus that is less than 1% lethal....they majority who died had underlying conditions. The politicians would never ruin lives, businesses, children’s education.... no never.... we assume they care.... yes, they care.....about power, money and control. Power and money for themselves..... control over the people! Their is no safe..... people die everyday from accidents, diseases, drugs, suicide.... sitting in a basement believing in a lie is not living..... called doing stupid.

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Jan 13, 2021 06:28:45   #
Unintended Consequences
 
The Ms. wrote:
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So you think that you are safe because you believe that politicians you do not have a clue about are looking out for you, they are making ruless of Tuesday evening, 4,197 deaths were reported, according to JHU. This is not the complete total for Tuesday, though, because final numbers come in overnight. for your safety , they really care about you, they know that you are not capable of making informed decisions for yourself.... you know they would never break the Covid rules they made for you.....they would never get their hair done at a salon closed to the public , not wearing a mask ( Crazy Nancy) .... go to a restaurant for their buddies birthday party ,no masks ( Newsom)
Cancel New Year Eve celebration for the public and then be seen dancing in Time’s Square ( Cuomo)....
They would never stoke fear in the public over a virus that is less than 1% lethal....they majority who died had underlying conditions. The politicians would never ruin lives, businesses, children’s education.... no never.... we assume they care.... yes, they care.....about power, money and control. Power and money for themselves..... control over the people! Their is no safe..... people die everyday from accidents, diseases, drugs, suicide.... sitting in a basement believing in a lie is not living..... called doing stupid.
. br So you think that you are safe because you b... (show quote)


"As of Tuesday evening, 4,197 deaths were reported, according to JHU(John Hopkins University). This is not the complete total for Tuesday, though, because final numbers come in overnight." It's not the politicians that I trust but the medical people who have studied infectious diseases for years , the frontline workers who are emotionally drained from seeing so much death, the relatives who are unable to be with their loved ones when they die.
I prefer my stupid to yours.

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Jan 13, 2021 06:42:44   #
Unintended Consequences
 
Carol Kelly wrote:
Not through communism and cheating and lying. I can never accept lies, thieving, dictators, destruction of property and rioting, burning and killing. And worse than that the destruction of our liberties.


How do you feel now that your side has done the rioting, looting and killing at the US capital? And don't try to tell me that this was Antifa.

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Jan 13, 2021 07:36:24   #
Bad Bob Loc: Virginia
 
dtucker300 wrote:
RUBE, you left out N. Korea. It doesn't really matter what they are working toward or claim. Several totalitarian regimes use the word Democracy or Democratic in their name and they in no way resemble a democracy, now, do they.


No I didn't.

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Jan 13, 2021 07:38:03   #
Bad Bob Loc: Virginia
 
Unintended Consequences wrote:
"a one world communist government" what the hell does that mean "Instead of alienating our allies, we will go back to working with them.
small number of people in control " Biden has nominated dozens of experienced people for his cabinet and federal agencies. Unlike Trump, who thought he had the answer to everything.., Biden will call upon the expertise of these people to make his decisions.
"disobeying the rules" I suppose you don't want to wear a mask. So can you go into a restaurant with no clothes? Can you disregard a red light when you don't want to wait? Rules are made for your own good. They don't do any good unless everyone follows them,
"a one world communist government" what ... (show quote)



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Jan 13, 2021 08:30:35   #
jelun
 
Maybe you could look at your premise from a different angle?
Your proclamations 2 and 3 are contradictions. The implication in 3 is that people who are on the left have consistently expected people who think differently should just hush up. While 2 blames Obama for the division that has "always been". We can't really have both, can we?

I think that the right has believed 3 for over 150 years, since the end of the Civil War, that is why those who lost the war can't just rethink their positions. Right?
Seems to me we have been divided since abolitionism became active.
What do you think?



dtucker300 wrote:
What planet has Mr. Greenfield been living on?
Trump exposed the divisions that existed already. Obama did more to drive a wedge between us. For the Left, it has always been "We need a leader. Now, shut up, and do as I say." Pushback drove them insane. Now the asylum is going to be run by the lunatics.

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Jan 13, 2021 08:35:58   #
jelun
 
Left or right doesn't really matter, does it?
I am not sure who decided that communism is liberal, anyway.
It is the totalitarianism that matters. It isn't who has the boot on our necks that is important, it is that ANYONE has a boot on any part of our bodies.
Subservience is what it is, does it matter if it is Stalin, some monarch, or Duterte?





dtucker300 wrote:
RUBE, you left out N. Korea. It doesn't really matter what they are working toward or claim. Several totalitarian regimes use the word Democracy or Democratic in their name and they in no way resemble a democracy, now, do they.

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Jan 13, 2021 12:32:30   #
dtucker300 Loc: Vista, CA
 
Bad Bob wrote:
No I didn't.


Quote:
Today, the existing communist states in the world are in China, Cuba, Laos and Vietnam. These communist states often do not claim to have achieved socialism or communism in their countries but to be building and working toward the establishment of socialism in their countries.


Here's your exact quote. Show me where you said North Korea.

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Jan 13, 2021 13:02:20   #
Rose42
 
jelun wrote:
Left or right doesn't really matter, does it?
I am not sure who decided that communism is liberal, anyway.
It is the totalitarianism that matters. It isn't who has the boot on our necks that is important, it is that ANYONE has a boot on any part of our bodies.
Subservience is what it is, does it matter if it is Stalin, some monarch, or Duterte?


We can just as easily become a totalitarian state under the democrat party. Thats one reason one party rule is so dangerous.

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Jan 13, 2021 13:07:54   #
dtucker300 Loc: Vista, CA
 
jelun wrote:
Left or right doesn't really matter, does it?
I am not sure who decided that communism is liberal, anyway.
It is the totalitarianism that matters. It isn't who has the boot on our necks that is important, it is that ANYONE has a boot on any part of our bodies.
Subservience is what it is, does it matter if it is Stalin, some monarch, or Duterte?


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It isn't who has the boot on our necks that is important, it is that ANYONE has a boot on any part of our bodies.
Who told you this? Not your dominatrix!

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Jan 13, 2021 13:23:26   #
meridianlesilie Loc: mars
 
Thanks for showing that really good

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Jan 13, 2021 13:27:06   #
meridianlesilie Loc: mars
 
We was united back when 911 happen then it went downhill then Obama took over and then we started getting divided again because of Michael brown incident I gotta put in another message that be a part 2 part 1

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Jan 13, 2021 13:29:34   #
meridianlesilie Loc: mars
 
When trump got elected it started going downhill fast remember when they had to riot in Washington DC then when that Floyd guy got killed it really started picking up speed all the riots I'm gonna make us into part 3 in a minute

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