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Washington Threatens The World —Dr. Paul Craig Roberts
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Aug 10, 2014 10:18:53   #
Patty
 
The war here has already started but it is Washington against the people. 90% of the people now by the standards set forth by Washington fit their interpretation of a terrorist.
If you pay for a hotel with cash and leave a card as collateral against damages or theft you are a terrorist.
If you stock pile more than enough food for over 7 days you are a terrorist. If you collect rain water for a garden you are a terrorist, If you buy gold or silver you are a terrorist. The original Patriot act was for foreign correspondence to catch terrorists and when it was expose that they are targeting everyone here also they put us in the same definition as terrorists.
They have already waged war on we the people.
JMHO wrote:
Patty

You do not need to educate me on the "Gulf of Tonkin" incident, I was stationed aboard a troop t***sport moored in Subic Bay PI at the time. Many of us in the Navy (on the west coast anyway) were puzzled over what happened in the Gulf of Tonkin. I remember reading some of the message traffic, and a lot of it didn't make sense. LBJ diasgreed with Kennedy over Vietnam. Kennedy only wanted advisors in country, and even planned on removing them. But, his assassination ended that plan. LBJ was an evil man, and he wanted a war. We would have won that war early, if he would have let the generals fight the war, instead of the politicians. We never lost a major battle in that war, but the democrats managed to lose it for us. The Democrats had a chance to hang a lost war on a Republican president, and they took it.

I enjoy many of your posts, and you're spot on in many of them. I just disagree with all this conspiracy crap about Corporate greed, and big greedy politicians, starting wars, etc. We get into many wars with honest intentions. I thought the Iraq War was a just war, as we fought the radical Islamists on their turf, not ours...we decimated them too. Thanks to the Democrats, and Obama, we will be fighting them again, only this time it may be on our soil, if ISIS is not stopped. Will it take American blood to stop them, yes, sadly it will, it's just a matter where...their soil, or ours.

Wars are nasty, no doubt about it. But, if we just sit back and be isolationists, we will end up with wars on our soil. ISIS intends to do much more than conquer Iraq. Iraq is just a stepping stone to control the entire Middle East. Israel can slow them down, but will eventually fall (without help from us). And, it could most likely involve the use of nukes, as Israel will not go out quietly. Radical Islam's ultimate goal is to conquer the entire world, and they don't intend to settle for less. Wake up America.
Patty br br You do not need to educate me on the ... (show quote)

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Aug 10, 2014 11:09:06   #
JMHO Loc: Utah
 
lpnmajor wrote:
Your paltry and pathetic attempt to anger me, just proves my case. I TOLD you, that you would do yourself in, you can't help yourself. One of the symptoms of a pathological liar is, their story gets more involved, with added irrelevant details AND an attempt to redirect the questioning back to the questioner. I don't intend to waste much time on you, as it would be pointless. I am not trying to convince you of anything, you're trying to convince ME. All I can say is FAT CHANCE!

So, have fun, my comic book hero!
Your paltry and pathetic attempt to anger me, just... (show quote)


Anger you? I was just calling you for what you are, a liar! You called my military service a lie so, I called you on it. I am willing to prove it, by making a wager, but you declined, so I guess you're all mouth. Still want to make that wager, or do you just want to keep running off at the mouth? You call me a pathological liar, but you can't back it up...typical of you libtards.

You need to get some meds for your affliction...diarrhea of the mouth.

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Aug 10, 2014 11:10:13   #
JMHO Loc: Utah
 
Patty wrote:
The war here has already started but it is Washington against the people. 90% of the people now by the standards set forth by Washington fit their interpretation of a terrorist.
If you pay for a hotel with cash and leave a card as collateral against damages or theft you are a terrorist.
If you stock pile more than enough food for over 7 days you are a terrorist. If you collect rain water for a garden you are a terrorist, If you buy gold or silver you are a terrorist. The original Patriot act was for foreign correspondence to catch terrorists and when it was expose that they are targeting everyone here also they put us in the same definition as terrorists.
They have already waged war on we the people.
The war here has already started but it is Washing... (show quote)


We agree on this.

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Aug 10, 2014 11:10:44   #
JMHO Loc: Utah
 
lpnmajor wrote:
Being clueless must bring you enormous peace of mind. I sometimes wish I could be like that.


You are!

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Aug 10, 2014 11:11:56   #
Patty
 
We are usually on about the same page on issues but did not know why you would be excusing Bush for his crimes against humanity.
JMHO wrote:
We agree on this.

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Aug 10, 2014 11:20:09   #
JMHO Loc: Utah
 
Patty wrote:
We are usually on about the same page on issues but did not know why you would be excusing Bush for his crimes against humanity.


Because BUSH DID NOT COMMIT ANY CRIMES AGAINST HUMANITY!!!!!!!!!!!!! And, I am through discussing it!

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Aug 10, 2014 11:27:03   #
Patty
 
http://www.globalresearch.ca/bush-adminstration-convicted-of-war-crimes-and-crimes-against-humanity/5336860
JMHO wrote:
Because BUSH DID NOT COMMIT ANY CRIMES AGAINST HUMANITY!!!!!!!!!!!!! And, I am through discussing it!

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Aug 10, 2014 11:53:57   #
JMHO Loc: Utah
 
Patty wrote:
http://www.globalresearch.ca/bush-adminstration-convicted-of-war-crimes-and-crimes-against-humanity/5336860


What part of "I do not want to discuss this topic with you any further" don't you understand? Your link is B.S., and I don't respond to B.S. Now, good day!

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Aug 10, 2014 12:05:36   #
Patty
 
I am entitled to post what I like. Why don't you "unwatch" the thread if you are done here? That doesn't make sense.
JMHO wrote:
What part of "I do not want to discuss this topic with you any further" don't you understand? Your link is B.S., and I don't respond to B.S. Now, good day!

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Aug 10, 2014 13:46:33   #
cesspool jones Loc: atlanta
 
Patty wrote:
Washington Threatens The World — Paul Craig Roberts

Paul Craig Roberts

The consequence of Washington’s reckless and irresponsible political and military interventions in Iraq, Libya, and Syria has been to unleash evil. The various sects that lived in peace under the rule of Saddam Hussein, Gaddafi, and Assad are butchering one another, and a new group, ISIS, is in the process of creating a new state out of parts of Iraq and Syria.

The turmoil brought into the Middle East by the Bush and Obama regimes has meant death and displacement for millions and untold future deaths. As I write 40,000 Iraqis are stranded on a mountain top without water awaiting death at the hands of ISIS, a creation of US meddling.

The reality in the Middle East stands in vast contradiction to the stage managed landing of George W. Bush on the US aircraft carrier Abraham Lincoln where Bush declared “Mission Accomplished” on May 1, 2003. The mission that Washington accomplished was to wreck the Middle East and the lives of millions of people and to destroy America’s reputation in the process. Thanks to the demonic neoconservative Bush regime, today America is regarded by the rest of the world as the greatest threat to world peace.

The Clinton regime’s attack on Serbia set the pattern. Bush upped the ante with Washington’s naked aggression against Afghanistan, which Washington clothed in Orwellian language–”Operation Enduring Freedom.”

Washington brought ruin, not freedom, to Afghanistan. After 13 years of blowing up the country, Washington is now withdrawing, the “superpower” having been defeated by a few thousand lightly armed Taliban, but leaving a wasteland behind for which Washington will accept no responsibility.

Of course, Washington itself is the leading terrorist state. Therefore, it is illegal under US law for Washington to support itself. Washington, however, does not accept law, neither domestic nor international, as a constraint on its actions. Washington is “exceptional, indispensable.” No one else counts. No law, no Constitution, and no humane consideration has authority to constrain Washington’s will. In its claims Washington surpasses those of the Third Reich.

As horrific as Washington’s recklessness toward the Middle East is, Washington’s recklessness toward Russia is many orders of magnitude greater. Washington has
convinced nuclear armed Russia that Washington is planning a nuclear first strike.
In response Russia is beefing up its nuclear forces and testing US air defense reactions. http://freebeacon.com/national-security/russian-strategic-bombers-conduct-more-than-16-incursions-of-u-s-air-defense-zones/

It is difficult to imagine a more irresponsible act than to convince Russia that Washington intends to hit Russia with a preemptive first strike. One of Putin’s advisers has explained to the Russian media Washington’s first strike intentions, and a member of the Russian Duma has made a documented presentation of Washington’s first strike intentions. http://financearmageddon.blogspot.co.uk/2014/07/official-warning-u-s-to-hit-russia-with.html By marshaling the evidence, I have pointed out in my columns that it is impossible for Russia to avoid this conclusion.

China is aware that China faces the same threat from Washington. http://yalejournal.org/2013/06/12/who-authorized-pr********ns-for-war-with-china/ China’s response to Washington’s war plans against China was to demonstrate how China’s nuclear forces would be used in response to Washington’s attack on China to destroy the US. China made this public, hoping to create opposition among Americans to Washington’s war plans against China. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2484334/China-boasts-new-submarine-fleet-capable-launching-nuclear-warheads-cities-United-States.html Like Russia, China is a rising country that does not need war in order to succeed.

The only country on earth that needs war is Washington, and that is because Washington’s goal is the neoconservative one of exercising hegemony over the world.

Prior to the Bush and Obama regimes, every previous US president went to great efforts to avoid telegraphing any nuclear threat. US war doctrine was careful to keep nuclear weapons limited to retaliation in the event the US suffered a nuclear attack. The purpose of nuclear forces was to prevent the use of such weapons. The reckless George W. Bush regime elevated nuclear weapons to preemptive first use, thus destroying the constraint placed on the use of nuclear weapons.

The overriding purpose of the Reagan administration was to end the cold war and, thereby, the threat of nuclear war. The George W. Bush regime, together with the Obama regime’s demonization of Russia, have overturned President Reagan’s unique achievement and made nuclear war likely.

When the incompetent Obama regime decided to o*******w the democratically elected government in Ukraine and install a puppet government of Washington’s choosing, the Obama State Department, run by neoconservative ideologues, forgot that the eastern and southern portions of Ukraine consist of former Russian provinces that were attached to the Ukraine Soviet Socialist Republic by C*******t Party leaders when Ukraine and Russia were part of the same country–the Soviet Union. When the Russophobic stooges that Washington installed in Kiev demonstrated in word and deed their hostility to Ukraine’s Russian population, the former Russian provinces declared their desire to return to mother Russia. This is not surprising, nor is it something that can be blamed on Russia.

Crimea succeeded in returning to Russia, where Crimea resided since the 1700s, but Putin, hoping to defuse the propaganda war that Washington was mounting against him did not accept the pleas from the other former Russian provinces. Consequently, Washington’s stooges in Kiev felt free to attack the protesting provinces and have been following the Israeli policy of attacking civilian populations, civilian residences, and civilian infrastructure.

The presstitute Western media ignored the facts and accused Russia of invading and annexing parts of Ukraine. This lie is comparable to the lies that US Secretary of State Colin Powell told the UN about Iraqi weapons of mass destruction in behalf of the criminal Bush regime, lies that Colin Powell later apologized for to no avail as Iraq had been destroyed by his lies.

When the Malaysian airliner was destroyed, before any facts were known Russia was blamed. The British media was especially primed to blame Russia almost the instant it was known the airliner was downed. I heard the BBC’s gross misrepresentation and blatant lies on American National Public Radio, and only the Daily Mail’s propagandistic account was worse. The entire “news” event has the appearance of orchestration prior to the event, which, of course, suggests that Washington was behind it.

The airliner deaths became all important for Washington’s propaganda war. The 290 casualties are unfortunate, but they are a small fraction of the deaths that Israel was inflicting on Palestinians at the same moment without provoking any protests from Western governments, as distinct from Western peoples in the streets, people whose protests were conveniently suppressed for Israel by Western security forces.

Washington used the downing of the airliner, which probably was Washington’s responsibility, as an excuse for another round of sanctions and to pressure its European puppets to join the sanctions with sanctions of their own, which Washington’s EU puppets did.

Washington relies on accusations and insinuations and refuses to release the evidence from the satellite photos, because the photos do not support Washington’s lies. Facts
are not permitted to interfere with Washington’s demonization of Russia any more than facts interfered with Washington’s demonization of Iraq, Libya, Syria, and Iran.

Twenty-two reckless and irresponsible US senators have introduced the “Russian Aggression Prevention Act of 2014,” US Senate bill 2277, sponsored by Senator Bob Corker, who well represents in his ignorance and stupidity what appears to be the majority of the American population or the majority of v**ers in the state of Tennessee. Corker’s bill is a mindless piece of legislation designed to start a war that would be likely to leave no survivors. Apparently, i***tic Americans will elect any fool to power.

The belief that Russia is responsible for the downed Malaysian airliner has become fact in Western capitals despite the total absence of even a tiny scrap of evidence in behalf of the claim. Moreover, even it the accusation were true, is one airliner worth a World War?

The UK Defense Committee has concluded that a broke and militarily impotent UK must “focus on the defense of Europe against Russia.” The military spending drums, if not the war drums, are beating and the entire West has joined in. A militarily impotent Britain is going to defend Europe from a non-existent, although much proclaimed, attack from the Russian bear.

US and NATO military dignitaries and the Pentagon chief are issuing Russia Threat Warnings based on alleged but non-existent Russian troop-buildups on Ukraine’s border. According to the the Western Ministry of Propaganda if Russia defends the Russian populations in Ukraine from military attack from Washington’s stooge government in Kiev, it is proof that Russia is the villain.

Washington’s propaganda campaign has succeeded in turning Russia into a threat. Polls show that 69 percent of Americans now regard Russia as a threat, and that the confidence of Russians in American leadership has vanished.

Russians and their government observe the identical demonization of their country and their leader as they observed of Iraq and Saddam Hussein, of Libya and Gaddafi, of Syria and Assad, and of Afghanistan and the Taliban just prior to military assaults on these countries by the West. For a Russian, the safest conclusion from the evidence is that Washington intends war on Russia.

It is my opinion that the irresponsibility and recklessness of the Obama regime is without precedent. Never before has the United States government or the government of any nuclear power gone to such great efforts to convince another nuclear power that that power was being set up for attack. It is difficult to imagine a more provocative act that more endangers life on earth. Indeed, the White House Fool has doubled up, convincing both Russia and China that Washington is planning a preemptive first strike on both.

Republicans want to sue or to impeach Obama over relatively inconsequential issues, such as ObamaCare. Why don’t Republicans want to impeach Obama over such a critical issue as subjecting the world to the risk of nuclear armageddon?

The answer is that the Republicans are as crazed as the Democrats. Their leaders, such as John McCain and Lindsay Graham, are determined that “we stand up to the Russians!” Wherever one looks in American politics one sees crazed people, psychopaths and sociopaths who should not be in political office.

Washington long ago gave up diplomacy. Washington relies on force and intimidation. The US government is utterly devoid of judgment. This is why polls show that the rest of the world regards the US government as the greatest threat to world peace. Today
(August 8, 2014) Handelsblatt, Germany’s Wall Street Journal, wrote in a signed editorial by the publisher:

“The American tendency to move from verbal escalation to military escalation–the isolation, demonization, and attacking of enemies–has not proven effective. The last successful major military action the US conducted was the Normandy landing [in 1944]. Everything else – Korea, Vietnam, Iraq, and Afghanistan – was a clear failure. Moving NATO units towards the Polish border with Russia and thinking about arming Ukraine is a continuation of relying on military means in the absence of diplomacy.”

Washington’s puppet states–all of Europe, Japan, Canada, and Australia–enable Washington’s unrivaled danger to the world by their support of Washington’s agenda of exercising hegemony over the entire world.

The 100th anniversary of World War I is upon us. And the folly that caused this war is being repeated. WWI destroyed a civilized Western world, and it was the work of a mere handful of scheming people. The result was Lenin, the Soviet Union, Hitler, the rise of American Imperialism, Korea, Vietnam, the military interventions that created ISIS, and now resurrected conflict between Washington and Russia that President Reagan and Mikhail Gorbachev had ended.

As Stephen Starr has pointed out on my website, if merely 10% of the nuclear weapons in the US and Russian arsenals are used, life on earth terminates.

Dear readers, ask yourselves, when has Washington told you anything that was not a lie? Washington’s lies have caused millions of casualties. Do you want to be a casualty of Washington’s lies?

Do you believe that Washington’s lies and propaganda about the Malaysian airliner and Ukraine are worth risking life on earth? Who is so gullible that he cannot recognize that Washington’s lies about Ukraine are like Washington’s lies about Hussein’s weapons of mass destruction, Iranian nukes, and Assad’s use of chemical weapons?

Do you think that the neoconservative influence that prevails in Washington, regardless of the political party in office, is too dangerous to be tolerated?
Washington Threatens The World — Paul Craig Robert... (show quote)


40,000 iraqies stranded on a mountain...a product of US meddling??? howabout a product of the worst cult this planet has ever seen. so you knew there were no WMD's before the iraq war! why didn't you speak up...all of this could have been avoided.

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Aug 10, 2014 14:08:59   #
Patty
 
As usual there were those of us wondering why we were attacking the wrong country since the washingtonites had said that they were Saudis that flew the planes into the towers. Many of us questioned why we were there. Where were you?
cesspool jones wrote:
40,000 iraqies stranded on a mountain...a product of US meddling??? howabout a product of the worst cult this planet has ever seen. so you knew there were no WMD's before the iraq war! why didn't you speak up...all of this could have been avoided.

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Aug 10, 2014 14:26:09   #
cesspool jones Loc: atlanta
 
Patty wrote:
As usual there were those of us wondering why we were attacking the wrong country since the washingtonites had said that they were Saudis that flew the planes into the towers. Many of us questioned why we were there. Where were you?


last i knew, even the media was with the invasion of iraq along with most americans. do you believe that bush lied or got fooled on this?

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Aug 10, 2014 14:47:23   #
Patty
 
I Bush didn't ask for actual proof then he is a fool.
Anyone who has studied history knows that the war mongers have a bad history going back to Neros age has had a bad track record.
Thomas Jefferson wrote, “If a nation expects to be ignorant and free in a state of civilization, it expects what never was and never will be.”
Just afew.
Spanish American war, The Manchurian Incident, Reichstag, Israeli Terrorist Cell Uncovered in Egypt1954, Operation Northwoods, Gulf of Tonkin, American produced Operation Gladio that k**led hundreds of Italians. If he didn't kbnow he should have.
cesspool jones wrote:
last i knew, even the media was with the invasion of iraq along with most americans. do you believe that bush lied or got fooled on this?

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Aug 10, 2014 15:07:46   #
cesspool jones Loc: atlanta
 
Patty wrote:
I Bush didn't ask for actual proof then he is a fool.
Anyone who has studied history knows that the war mongers have a bad history going back to Neros age has had a bad track record.
Thomas Jefferson wrote, “If a nation expects to be ignorant and free in a state of civilization, it expects what never was and never will be.”
Just afew.
Spanish American war, The Manchurian Incident, Reichstag, Israeli Terrorist Cell Uncovered in Egypt1954, Operation Northwoods, Gulf of Tonkin, American produced Operation Gladio that k**led hundreds of Italians. If he didn't kbnow he should have.
I Bush didn't ask for actual proof then he is a fo... (show quote)


so, how does one get reliable intelligence from the unreliable middle east? you do remember about a highly trusted high ranking afghanistan military officer a few years back who blew himself up along with high ranking american officers right on the air base in afghanistan? that's what happened to bush...but a country, not an air base.

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Aug 10, 2014 15:39:49   #
Patty
 
Both the president and congress ha the authority to stop these "black ops" The president through executive order and the congress through the budget. These are the guys creating all these false f**g murders with their 52.6 billion dollars yearly budget that no one is allowed to know what it is used for.
cesspool jones wrote:
so, how does one get reliable intelligence from the unreliable middle east? you do remember about a highly trusted high ranking afghanistan military officer a few years back who blew himself up along with high ranking american officers right on the air base in afghanistan? that's what happened to bush...but a country, not an air base.

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