BBZ Loc: Long Island, NY

New York Times. https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/us/c****av***s-us-cases.html

debeda

Ahhh. Yes. NYT

jwrevagent

I just read in our daily newspaper The Appleton Post Crescent for today, Monday, November 30, 2020, that a cold, flu or even a flu shot can trigger a false positive. I happen to personally know a couple-they were in their 80's, wife had end stage breast cancer, I believe it was, though I may be mistaken about that, with probably a month to live, at the outside. She contracted C***D, died and they labelled it a C***D death. Personally, I do not believe it. I wonder if she even had the v***s, actually. But she was in the last stages of cancer, was in the hospital, dying, and they labelled it C***D-her husband doubts it as well, but it is what it is, and no matter how she died, the fact is, he is left and grieving. Those are the kinds of situations that make people doubt the veracity of our government and those who work with them and have reason to falsify records to gain $$. I mean, there was no autopsy-the woman was dying and was very old-why do one? So the likelihood of anyone looking into the possibility of false statements is slim, and I imagine the hospital figures the woman is dead either way, so what difference does it actually make? The difference, of course, is that I for one believe nothing the government tells me about C***D or any other subject. They have lied so much and so t***sparently-isn't that amazing the only t***sparency in our government is that they lie about absolutely everything, both sides and independents, and even when it is shown that they have lied, they simply double down on it, and accuse the questioner of being biased. What a country!

America 1 Loc: South Miami

Letter to the Editor Why the left h**es America and Trump
Why do L*****ts h**e America?
As expected, the l*****t media is exploiting the C****-** p******c to smear him as a complete “failure” and even describing him as a “sociopath” while gleefully discussing how this p******c can help the Democratic Socialists in 2020.
a. American Conservatism, promoted by Republicans and founded on Biblical/Christian principles that have resulted in the greatest country to have ever existed? Or,
b. Democratic Socialism, based on godless Marxism that has resulted in catastrophic failure with over 100 million people murdered by their governments in the 20th century alone, with millions more living in poverty and misery whenever and wherever it’s been tried? Venezuela is a current example.
https://fillmorecountyjournal.com/letter-to-the-editor-why-the-left-h**es-america-and-trump/

ACP45 Loc: Rhode Island

The article in the NYT reports a case count of almost 168,000. Pretty impressive, but when you factor in a false positve rate of 97% or better, whose kidding who?
https://www.zerohedge.com/political/groundhog-day-c***d-science

As to the death count, many previous responders have correctly pointed out the difference of death by C***d vs. death with C***d which is highlighted in this post: https://www.onepoliticalplaza.com/t-202589-1.html
and this illustration:

BBZ Loc: Long Island, NY

I do not understand why people try to minimize the number of deaths from c***d. Even if two thirds of the total number of c***d deaths reported were because of another cause, the number would still be over 89,000 deaths. That is a staggering number.

jwrevagent

No one is trying to minimize anything. The point is we cannot believe what we are being told. The government has been lying to us for their own reasons-both sides-for practically since there were news media to report anything. The "experts" (and who on earth is an expert on this p******c-not enough time to become a true expert) have been changing their stories, and the exemptions granted and taken by those who made the rules in the first place make it impossible to believe or take seriously anything they report. I believe this is a serious disease. I wear a mask outside my apartment on the off chance that it may actually help some one avoid the disease, just in case, you know. And of course, many places of business demand it. So, OK, it is not that much of an inconvenience, but when places are shut down at the whim of some politician who himself does not follow his rules, then I get upset -no, I get angry and decide that I really do not have to obey either. See?

I believe there are deaths, I believe elderly are more prone to die from it, but then elderly are also more likely to die from a lot of things-pneumonia, liver disease, kidney failure and so on-and simply age. No one gets out of this alive, remember. So yes, people are dying, as they have for centuries, people are getting sick, as they have for the same period of time, and yes, this C***D thing is not fun nor is it to be taken lightly. But neither are pneumonia, cancer, CP, Epilepsy, TB, Heart Failure or any other condition. Not everyone dies of C***D, not everyone who gets C***D dies of it; they may die WITH it, or they may recover completely from C***D and anything else they may have.

BBZ Loc: Long Island, NY

You stated your views very clearly, and I understand your point of view. However, I think we can agree to disagree on the death rate from c***d. Thank you.

ExperienceCounts

Expletive, a******ns k**l more babies than c***d has k**led people this year.

In the US alone, from March to May of 2020, there were 215,600 a******ns.
And you want shutdowns to preserve life.
https://www.lifenews.com/2020/05/29/a******n-was-the-leading-cause-of-death-during-the-c****av***s-k*****g-10-5-million-worldwide/

moldyoldy

Agenda driven lies.

ExperienceCounts

Did you even read the link?

jwrevagent

Thank you for your thoughtful response. Have a wonderful holiday season. And please stay safe and healthy as much as it is in your power to do so.

moldyoldy

As much as I could stand

debeda

Well said!1👏👏👏👏👏👏👏

jwrevagent

In other words, perhaps the first line or two. Why could you not stand to read the rest? Because it may actually have some semblance of t***h? Because you do not wish to believe it, and so can hang on to your opinions without fear of being wrong? I did not read the whole thing, because I know that more babies are murdered world wide for "convenience" or for any other non-reason every year than any other cause. We may have aborted twenty years ago the child who would have brought an end to this p******c quickly-ever think of that? We may have k**led the child that could lead this country into some semblance of sanity and humanity again. Perhaps a great artist, musician, mathematician, teacher, or diplomat. Some one who could discover how to more efficiently and wisely get all the energy available from wind and solar. Perhaps not, but we will never know, will we? And so we continue to k**l children who are our future-is that not what most politicians and pundits say? We need to protect and educate our children? Yet it is OK to k**l them either before birth, or if Biden and Harris have their way, at any stage up to and including soon after birth? Wow. Please do not bother to answer. I am just wondering about why you did not read the whole thing and what it will take for people to wake up to the destruction we are causing, not only by a******n.