A****a "leader" demands President Trump concedes on Sunday or they attack Conservatives . .. (Page 9): Here ya go. Start with this.

Grugore

SSDD wrote:

Yes, for those that refuse to acknowledge reality, it would seem like a myth. You know the best way to invalidate a myth is to learn as much as you can about the "myth" and form a cohesive argument refuting the "myth". Perhaps that is how you can get people to stop "rehashing" that particular "myth", it is worth a try, get to that research.

Here ya go. Start with this.
http://www.smoaky.com/forum/index.php?/topic/138779-the-myth-of-red-state-welfare/

GoCubs Loc: Earth

Grugore wrote:

Here ya go. Start with this.
http://www.smoaky.com/forum/index.php?/topic/138779-the-myth-of-red-state-welfare/

Posted September 17, 2013....? Really? A seven year old post from a member of another political forum? Is that all ya' got?

Grugore

GoCubs wrote:

Posted September 17, 2013....? Really? A seven year old post from a member of another political forum? Is that all ya' got?

You didn't even read it. Did you? Why don't you remedy that, then you try to prove it wrong.

GoCubs Loc: Earth

Grugore wrote:

You didn't even read it. Did you? Why don't you remedy that, then you try to prove it wrong.

I did read it. It is seven years old and has the usual twisting of facts to fit the writer's agenda. Worthless "info", really. Proves zero. What else ya' got?

Grugore

GoCubs wrote:

I did read it. It is seven years old and has the usual twisting of facts to fit the writer's agenda. Worthless "info", really. Proves zero. What else ya' got?

Can you give me an example?

Cuda2020

SSDD wrote:

That one seems quite fond of "the twist" as well as embellishment. As for your second paragraph, consider who he supports, perhaps that is why he so fully supports Trump, just a thought here.

Yes I'm very familiar with the twists from the right, who put the false words in your mouth and then condemns you for it. It's unfortunate they don't see how t***sparent they are. They walk away thinking, how clever they are, it's fairly amusing if not so irritating to have to expose them to the people who hadn't read the original post. That's worse then a simply lie it is slander. If you can imagine me saying the constitution was ridiculous. Scummer's.

Cuda2020

GoCubs wrote:

Posted September 17, 2013....? Really? A seven year old post from a member of another political forum? Is that all ya' got?

It's just sad, seriously.

Grugore

Barracuda2020 wrote:

Yes I'm very familiar with the twists from the right, who put the false words in your mouth and then condemns you for it. It's unfortunate they don't see how t***sparent they are. They walk away thinking, how clever they are, it's fairly amusing if not so irritating to have to expose them to the people who hadn't read the original post. That's worse then a simply lie it is slander. If you can imagine me saying the constitution was ridiculous. Scummer's.

And yet you refuse to discuss the information in the article. You simply dismiss it out of hand. Know what makes you? It's not flattering. Unless you are willing to have a rational discussion about this, I will have no choice but to consider you as wilfully ignorant, and completely useless.

lindajoy Loc: right here with you....

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SSDD wrote:

With so many Trumplicans failing to know or understand what the constitution says, it obviously doesn't matter much to you guys, despite how vigorously you people try to claim it does matter to you.

Project much?

You, a hard core l*****t, suggesting we don't understand what the constitution says and that it doesn't matter to us? Nothing could be further from the t***h.

There is no doubt how l*****ts interpret OUR Constitution. The 2nd Amendment for example. And that is just the nub of how thoroughly you sorry excuses for American citizens have butchered OUR Constitution.

And, this v***r f***d? L*****ts violated Article 1, Section 4 & Article 2, Section 1, para 2-4 of OUR Constitution, the equal protection clause of the 14th amendment and state e******n laws.

During the impeachment hearings, House democraps rewrote Article II, Section 4 in order to lower the bar on impeachable offenses.

Yeah, we are well aware of how much you know and care about OUR Constitution.

GoCubs Loc: Earth

Grugore wrote:

And yet you refuse to discuss the information in the article. You simply dismiss it out of hand. Know what makes you? It's not flattering. Unless you are willing to have a rational discussion about this, I will have no choice but to consider you as wilfully ignorant, and completely useless.

It's not an article. It is a post on a political forum that was written SEVEN years ago by someone that no one has ever heard of. Again, what else ya' got?

Grugore

GoCubs wrote:

It's not an article. It is a post on a political forum that was written SEVEN years ago by someone that no one has ever heard of. Again, what else ya' got?

Can you refute what it said? Obviously not, since you refuse to discuss it. PATHETIC

lindajoy Loc: right here with you....

Grugore wrote:

Can you give me an example?

It appears they take exception to your 2013 posting.. Bringing that up to a few dated later the same states merit recognition again...

To wit~

Those arguing that "blue states" are the ones bailing out "red states" point to the federal "balance of payment" ratios, or federal tax dollars collected compared to federal money received, on a state-by-state basis. The states with lowest balance of payment ratios (collecting more federal taxes than they receive in federal funds) are Connecticut, New Jersey, Massachusetts and New York. The states with the highest balance of payments (receiving more federal funds than they collect in federal taxes) are Kentucky, New Mexico, Mississippi and West Virginia. Therefore, "blue states" are bailing out "red states" - or so they say.

But federal balance of payment ratios are not as indicative as pundits think they are. New Mexico is often deemed a "blue state" and West Virginia had Democratic control of the governor's mansion and both state legislative chambers as recently as 2014. The relationship between state policy and balance-of-payment ratios becomes even weaker considering that North Dakota, New Hampshire and Nebraska - so-called "red states" - all have balance of payment ratios of less than 1.00. This means they receive less in federal funds than they collect in federal taxes, just like Connecticut, New Jersey, Massachusetts and New York.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/thehill.com/opinion/finance/502321-no-blue-states-do-not-bailout-red-states%3famp

As example, with more to consider in how its all put out or brought in..
Numbers being just that, numbers with varying degrees of consideration..

Another ~~

Different perspective~~

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.marketwatch.com/amp/story/these-states-are-the-biggest-sponges-on-the-federal-treasury-2019-02-26

GoCubs Loc: Earth

lindajoy wrote:

It appears they take exception to your 2013 postin... (show quote)

Hi LJ,

I hope you had a great Thanksgiving! Did you get any fishing in?

You are way smarter than I, but I just want to present this...

Population of mentioned states:

New Mexico 2.35 Million
West Virginia 1.8 "
North Dakota 0.8 "
N. Hampshire 1.35 "
Nebraska 1.78 "

Total: 8.08 Million

Connecticut 3.7 Million
New Jersey 9.24 "
Massachusetts 6.7 "
New York 18.8 "

Total: 38.44 Million

Those disproportionate population variances make a significant difference in this "discussion".

Tight lines!

lindajoy Loc: right here with you....

GoCubs wrote:

Hi LJ, br br I hope you had a great Thanksgiving!... (show quote)

Hi to you and I hope you had a spectacular Thanksgiving and now getting ready for Christmas...

No fishing, Thanksgiving prep the prime objective along with getting Christmas trees thrown in by my son ready to decorate... lolol... Much fun tho~~

As for your mention of the Disproportionate
Population variance, I agree it does have merit too..

Are you considering stratified sampling as a method of sampling from a population which can be partitioned into subpopulations.??