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Nov 29, 2020 22:01:56   #
GoCubs Loc: Earth
 
Good to hear. Getting excited for Christmas now too. Very valid point. Did not consider stratified sampling. The variance reduction could (or may not) be meaningful.

Remember... in winter, #20-22 Blue Winged Olives on SP if it's cloudy, rainy or especially if it's snowing. Have a great week!

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Nov 29, 2020 22:15:39   #
Grugore
 
GoCubs wrote:
Good to hear. Getting excited for Christmas now too. Very valid point. Did not consider stratified sampling. The variance reduction could (or may not) be meaningful.

Remember... in winter, #20-22 Blue Winged Olives on SP if it's cloudy, rainy or especially if it's snowing. Have a great week!


I h**e to complain, but could the two of you please speak English?šŸ˜’

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Nov 30, 2020 00:32:43   #
SSDD
 
GoCubs wrote:
Posted September 17, 2013....? Really? A seven year old post from a member of another political forum? Is that all ya' got?


Damn, ya beat me to it.

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Nov 30, 2020 00:34:33   #
SSDD
 
Barracuda2020 wrote:
Yes I'm very familiar with the twists from the right, who put the false words in your mouth and then condemns you for it. It's unfortunate they don't see how t***sparent they are. They walk away thinking, how clever they are, it's fairly amusing if not so irritating to have to expose them to the people who hadn't read the original post. That's worse then a simply lie it is slander. If you can imagine me saying the constitution was ridiculous. Scummer's.


Well... It is all they have to work with.

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Nov 30, 2020 00:36:21   #
Grugore
 
SSDD wrote:
Well... It is all they have to work with.


And none of you have even attempted to refute any of it. T***h does not have a shelf-life. It was true then. It's true now.

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Nov 30, 2020 00:37:25   #
SSDD
 
Grugore wrote:
And yet you refuse to discuss the information in the article. You simply dismiss it out of hand. Know what makes you? It's not flattering. Unless you are willing to have a rational discussion about this, I will have no choice but to consider you as wilfully ignorant, and completely useless.


Wait, I thought you DIDN'T like him? Why would you compliment him so? A negative comment from one such as yourself is truly a compliment.

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Nov 30, 2020 00:40:32   #
Grugore
 
SSDD wrote:
Wait, I thought you DIDN'T like him? Why would you compliment him so? A negative comment from one such as yourself is truly a compliment.


Get lost. You may return when you learn to act like an adult.

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Nov 30, 2020 01:34:25   #
SSDD
 
Grugore wrote:
Get lost. You may return when you learn to act like an adult.


Oh, so you do like me then, thank you for the compliment. Glad I finally figured out the topsy-turvy Trumplican world. I was too engaged in reality and kept thinking that reality was universal but....

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Nov 30, 2020 01:40:15   #
Grugore
 
What's really sad is that you think your funny. I h**e to break this to you, but you're not. Actually, you're quite the obnoxious bore. But you knew that already.
SSDD wrote:
Oh, so you do like me then, thank you for the compliment. Glad I finally figured out the topsy-turvy Trumplican world. I was too engaged in reality and kept thinking that reality was universal but....

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Nov 30, 2020 02:12:14   #
SSDD
 
lindajoy wrote:
It appears they take exception to your 2013 posting.. Bringing that up to a few dated later the same states merit recognition again...

To wit~

Those arguing that "blue states" are the ones bailing out "red states" point to the federal "balance of payment" ratios, or federal tax dollars collected compared to federal money received, on a state-by-state basis. The states with lowest balance of payment ratios (collecting more federal taxes than they receive in federal funds) are Connecticut, New Jersey, Massachusetts and New York. The states with the highest balance of payments (receiving more federal funds than they collect in federal taxes) are Kentucky, New Mexico, Mississippi and West Virginia. Therefore, "blue states" are bailing out "red states" - or so they say.

But federal balance of payment ratios are not as indicative as pundits think they are. New Mexico is often deemed a "blue state" and West Virginia had Democratic control of the governor's mansion and both state legislative chambers as recently as 2014. The relationship between state policy and balance-of-payment ratios becomes even weaker considering that North Dakota, New Hampshire and Nebraska - so-called "red states" - all have balance of payment ratios of less than 1.00. This means they receive less in federal funds than they collect in federal taxes, just like Connecticut, New Jersey, Massachusetts and New York.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/thehill.com/opinion/finance/502321-no-blue-states-do-not-bailout-red-states%3famp

As example, with more to consider in how its all put out or brought in..
Numbers being just that, numbers with varying degrees of consideration..

Another ~~

Different perspective~~

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.marketwatch.com/amp/story/these-states-are-the-biggest-sponges-on-the-federal-treasury-2019-02-26
It appears they take exception to your 2013 postin... (show quote)


I couldn't help but to notice that the first link links to the OP-ED section of a LEGITIMATE RW news source, of course the OP-ED section is merely the OPINIONS of those sending in contributions. That said, even though the author proclaimed that he was disputing the claims that blue states bail out red states, the information he was posting to support his assertion actually countered his assertion. the data he used showed the same thing as others have pointed out, 40/50 states paid in less money in federal tax dollars than they received from the U.S. treasury.

I don't understand why you say, "Different perspective~~", the author of the opinion piece on first link may have seen things differently but the actual data looked about the same, even though the two pieces are about 1 1/3 years apart in posting. The opinion piece in The Hill was posted 06/11/20, the Market Watch piece was dated, roughly, 1 1/3 years earlier on Feb. 26, 2019.

I was actually quite surprised that with the effects from the p******c, we haven't seen a greater reliance on government bail out tipping the scales the other way. Of course the federal tax dollars estimate is likely based on last years tax contributions as we don't "tally up" tax liability until the early part of next year, "Tax season".

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Nov 30, 2020 02:13:53   #
SSDD
 
Grugore wrote:
What's really sad is that you think your funny. I h**e to break this to you, but you're not. Actually, you're quite the obnoxious bore. But you knew that already.


Stop complimenting me, you are going to make me blush and inflate my ego.

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Nov 30, 2020 07:01:59   #
Rose42
 
SSDD wrote:
Stop complimenting me, you are going to make me blush and inflate my ego.


Your ego canā€™t be much bigger rumitoid. Its very trumpian.

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Nov 30, 2020 07:19:48   #
lindajoy Loc: right here with you....
 
GoCubs wrote:
Good to hear. Getting excited for Christmas now too. Very valid point. Did not consider stratified sampling. The variance reduction could (or may not) be meaningful.

Remember... in winter, #20-22 Blue Winged Olives on SP if it's cloudy, rainy or especially if it's snowing. Have a great week!


Agreed, depending on the sampling perimeters broken down such as say, education and income it may help zero in payers to non payers and not just population..Just giving more definitive ā€œ causesā€ in other words..Large clusters of population being just that I would assume we need to go to the next factor, salaries, retired to workers, paying taxes, drawing assistance etc.. Just something that came to mind when you brought up variance reductions..I do believe it does have merit..

You tease me once again on the right time to get out for some true quite time..Thank you, really...When I do Iā€™m going to get you a picture of the first catch!!!! May just have to make it a plan tomorrow.. Our temps are single digit to teens with highs 30/40s and overcast for the snow expected tomorrow night into Wednesday ...

Hoping you have a great weak as well... Will you be out casting??

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Nov 30, 2020 08:11:20   #
lindajoy Loc: right here with you....
 
SSDD wrote:
I couldn't help but to notice that the first link links to the OP-ED section of a LEGITIMATE RW news source, of course the OP-ED section is merely the OPINIONS of those sending in contributions. That said, even though the author proclaimed that he was disputing the claims that blue states bail out red states, the information he was posting to support his assertion actually countered his assertion. the data he used showed the same thing as others have pointed out, 40/50 states paid in less money in federal tax dollars than they received from the U.S. treasury.

I don't understand why you say, "Different perspective~~", the author of the opinion piece on first link may have seen things differently but the actual data looked about the same, even though the two pieces are about 1 1/3 years apart in posting. The opinion piece in The Hill was posted 06/11/20, the Market Watch piece was dated, roughly, 1 1/3 years earlier on Feb. 26, 2019.

I was actually quite surprised that with the effects from the p******c, we haven't seen a greater reliance on government bail out tipping the scales the other way. Of course the federal tax dollars estimate is likely based on last years tax contributions as we don't "tally up" tax liability until the early part of next year, "Tax season".
I couldn't help but to notice that the first link ... (show quote)


I was also surprised that with the effects of the p******c we haveā€™t seen a greater reliance on government bail outs and can only suggest that our unemployment numbers changing quicker than predicted allowed tax income to offset it all? Admittedly we were all surprised the numbers of employed grew each month instead of seeing the stagnation expected..

As for my comment, a different perspective, I was referring to the first analyst not referencing the contracting dollars which would shed more light on those government contracting dollars in how and where used...Or if another reason there was not the severe lean on government needs....No way to measure the benefits in how or if they helped or where used even.. We know without doubt PPPs and Federal loans were granted on a whim practically and Thank God at the time.. We donā€™t know to whom and how much was ā€œ spent back into the economy via employers and employees etc.. A Huge number no doubt...How many small businesses and money loaned to keep them afloat?? Was contract dollars even considered and if not why not???
May not be germane at all if they segregated it into that reduced variability or stratified sampling of businesses by dollar value,( net accumulative worth, if they default having that as leverage) An after thought here given GoCubs comments..
Sorry, its more difficult trying to rationalize it to here than in thought.. Plus I neeeeddd coffeeeeee..

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Nov 30, 2020 08:55:39   #
Cuda2020
 
Grugore wrote:
Can you refute what it said? Obviously not, since you refuse to discuss it. PATHETIC


Did you forget your request for me to not reply to you?

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