manning5 Loc: Richmond, VA

Well, JW, you put a thought into my head, that of "catching on". Could it be that most of the millions of dems are in a deluded state? One that possets the idea that the dems of today are the same as the dems of yesterday. The dems their father, and grandfather revered and v**ed for consistently--no matter what? Is that something they will catch onto? Would they also discover that the old dems were much closer to the repubs of today than are the radical dems of today? Please let them catch on! Just a little!

JW

Since when is trying to ensure a fair and honest e******n an attempt to steal it?

A democracy is a system of government in which every issue is v**ed on by the people and the majority always gets its way. A Constitutional Republic is a form of government in which rules are established and signed onto by all citizens and those rules are superior to all citizens. Every democracy that has ever existed has evolved into a dictatorship. Every Republic that has ever existed lasted until the i***ts in charge decided it should become a democracy. Shortly thereafter, it became a dictatorship.

Biden's principles revolve around he who pays me gets my v**e. Trump's principles revolve around the Constitution of the United States of America and you can't pay me enough to buy my v**e.

As for what the Constitution of the United States of America stands for, it lays that out unambiguously and in considerable detail. It isn't what the Left has been pretending it is. Read it, learn it and understand it and you will begin to appreciate what Trump is doing.

PeterS

What a load of crap. That POS has delivered a dystopian nightmare and you people could give a crap about it. He has turned a country on itself all because he doesn't know how to handle losing. He has you people running around crying about c***ting when he's the one who is trying to steal the e******n. There is not a single judge in this entire country that agrees with Trump's claim of c***ting but you people are happy to believe Trump over a legal system that includes judges that were appointed by conservatives including Donald Trump. You people always cry about activist judges, well, you get the judges you want and you still believe they are part of some mysterious deep state???

Don't sit there and cry about dystopia when you are as responsible as anyone for Trump being empowered to spread chaos and confusion across this land. C***TING he cries and you, like dutiful puppets, run around crying foul never once asking why judges appointed by him would say things like the following: “Free, f**r e******ns are the lifeblood of our democracy. Charges of unfairness are serious. But calling an e******n unfair does not make it so. Charges require specific allegations and then proof. We have neither here,”

Well? The above is from the mouth of a Trump appointee. And that's what you and Trump are doing. Running around crying about c***ting never once providing ANY proof that will stand up in a court of law. But you don't care! You would be happy if the legislatures of our states nullify the v**es of American citizens and appoint Trump over their will. Isn't that the dystopia that you are crying about? Wake up man, you are in the process of destroying the county you claim to love!

PeterS

You have no proof that will stand up in a court of law and because you lack the proof you want to go to state legislatures and circumvent the courts! THAT'S C***TING AND TRYING TO STEAL AN E******N!!!

Either show the proof of your accusations or sit down and obey the law! That's what one does in a Constitutional Republic that is governed by the rule of law.

JW

It's not this country that I love. There is too much wrong with it right now. I love the Constitution of the USA and I love the ingenuity and vision of the Founders. I swore an oath the defend the Constitution from all enemies, foreign and domestic, when I joined the USMC. I am still doing what I can to defend it. At the moment, the greatest threat is domestic. I can't close my eyes to that fact just because they pretend to be American.

JW

It's late, I'll get back to you on this tomorrow.

debeda

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debeda

The dystopian nightmare started in 2008. President Trump winning in 2016 disrupted the timetable. You fools are trying to start the clock agaib

debeda

Like any criminal act, there has to be probable cause to investigate. This e******n is chock full of probable cause, as well as provable cases of v***r f***d (dead people v****g, completely disabled people v****g, non residents v****g, excessive numbers of b****ts cast, in some places 300% of registered v**ers, or even more). All these things create probable cause for investigation. Will it be done in time to change the results of this e******n? Maybe, maybe not. But it should nonetheless be assiduously and thoroughly investigated so that safeguards can be instated to provide e******n integrity. Perhaps using the Carter-baker study from 2005. It was obvious to those watching the e******n results that something was funky. And shady. We, as Americans, should be allowed to know the scope and means of same.

Tug484

Tug484

Bidens lawyers spent a year going to these states to change e******n rules. They can't just change the Constitution because Biden wants to be president and that's what they did.
Accepting b****ts for days isn't allowed.
You lefties need to face the fact that the democratic law Maker's will do anything to win.

PeterS

I am not going to sit here and parse words with you. You say you love the Constitution? Well, the Constitution lays the basis for our rule of law. Those judges, who have ruled and because of their ruling you've decided to sidetrack...are part of the rule of law. Do you not understand any of that? The Constitution doesn't give you a right to subvert it simply because it doesn't give you the ruling that you want. We don't always get that. No, based on the rule of law we are afforded the opportunity to defend our position whereby we agree to abide by the ruling.

Don't sit there and tell me how much you love our Constitution when you are openly trying to subvert it simply because you didn't get the ruling that you wanted. What did the judge say:"But calling an e******n unfair does not make it so. Charges require specific allegations and then proof. We have neither here,” Judge Stephanos Bibas wrote for the three-judge panel.

Think about that. You have no proof. All you have are allegations of c***ting and unfairness (allegations originally made out of thin air by Donald Trump). What is any judge supposed to do? "Charges require specific alligations and then proof!" All Trump's lawyers provided were general allegations with NO proof! Does none of that sink in? ALLEGATIONS AND NO PROOF! ALLEGATIONS AND NO PROOF! ALLEGATIONS AND NO PROOF! ALLEGATIONS AND NO PROOF! ALLEGATIONS AND NO PROOF! ALLEGATIONS AND NO PROOF!

Honest to god, you and Blade Runner have the two hardest heads I've ever run across. My last question is, do you not understand how dangerous it is--with a nation of armed RW psycho's--for Trump to run around crying about c***ting when there exists no evidence that will stand up in court that any actually took place?

PeterS

Where do you have evidence of that? Remember, most of the states involved have RW legislatures. It's the legislature that makes the e******n rules. Your argument is that lawyers for an LW Democrat were able to go into states with RW legislatures and change their e******n rules. Sit there and think for a second? Do you really think that is remotely possible or do you believe it simply because that's what you want to believe?

Tug484

Listen to someone who has studied the Constitution for probably most of his life and you'll see the v****g was illegal.
Mark Levin is his name.

Tug484

I happen to pay attention, instead of being hard headed and set in my attitude.
You need to think for more than a second.
Quit looking at the two men running and look at what they have planned.
I don't want Biden anywhere in my future.