Simple Sam Loc: USA

It appears you missed my question an focused on the biden quotes. I am not responsible or even support his quotes and promises. My comment was driven by another poster that gloated about biden turning states red. My question, as quoted from my opening sentence "I have a question and it is sincere, not trying to be rude, but what was in biden's campaigning that caused states to flip?'

FallenOak Loc: St George Utah

Went back and reread the question. You are correct.

Michael10

A v**e for a third party in this e******n would have been a wasted v**e and I wanted to help put the sorry excuse for a leader out of office. the only v**e for me was Biden.

Simple Sam Loc: USA

I think I may abandon asking logical questions on OPP. OPPers are like, Damn the torpedo, full steam ahead! They see a biden quote and they assume I support him!

American Vet

So which policies of President Trump do you not like and why?

FallenOak Loc: St George Utah

That is exactly what the Dem and Rep sides want. They keep telling you that a v**e for anyone but themselves is a wasted v**e. I can remember the two who got many v**es in the national e******n were Wallace and Perot. The debates need to allow every party candidate to speak.

FallenOak Loc: St George Utah

If I don't respond immediately I forget what I was thinking about. Sort of like triggers to get responses.

Michael10

Pulling out of the Climate accord, the planet is doing everything bad climate scientists said it would 30 years ago

Tax breaks for the rich, now the burden of paying this countries debt in on the middle class.

building a wall on the southern border, waist of money there are much better ways to protect the border drones are much cheaper.

Separating children from their parents and putting them in cages, cause that just ain't right

Paying farmers billions for his failed tariffs, this will never end that business isn't coming back.

Supporting clean coal, these plants are long overdue closing and big polluters plus the coal ash left deal with

No health care plan, he'll try to k**l the ACA and have nothing to replace it.

I could go on and on but it'd take all night to type it up

Which of his policies do you like and why?

FallenOak Loc: St George Utah

Long answer but I have tried to answer all.
1.Pulling out of the Climate accord, the planet is doing everything bad climate scientists said it would 30 years ago
I don’t think leaving many of the things that Europe wants to do is bad because my forefathers left that continent years, even centuries ago.

2. Tax breaks for the rich, now the burden of paying this countries debt in on the middle class.
Tax breaks for the rich is the way people who want to be richer justify their not being richer. I remember the thing my friend told me when he had a business before he sold it. He said, “To make my company work I worked seven days a week 364 days a year. I got Christmas Day off for the first five years.”

3. building a wall on the southern border, waist of money there are much better ways to protect the border drones are much cheaper.
I sort of agree. The response time for walls and drones worry me. Much better to beef up manpower. On site reinforcement seems better to me.

3. Separating children from their parents and putting them in cages, cause that just ain't right
I am not sure that was all his fault. I also hear the Obama did the same thing. Hard to tell the t***h with both sides yelling so loud.

4. Paying farmers billions for his failed tariffs, this will never end that business isn't coming back.
Not only due to Trump. When I was farming the terrain was not good for growing wheat or that kind of crop. To hilly. Was good for groves because trees grow on hillside or flat, doesn’t matter. I used to get letters from the government in Washington, DC that had paper work for me to get money for removing my land from wheat production. Also had relatives that were in cattle in Nebraska and Kansas that were paid to have smaller herds. One was even fined for raising too many cattle one year. Never even knew Trump was about in those times, other days other Presidents.

5. Supporting clean coal, these plants are long overdue closing and big polluters plus the coal ash left deal with
Don’t care about coal. I support Nuclear Energy for clean electric power.

6. No health care plan, he'll try to k**l the ACA and have nothing to replace it.
Thought he promised to do just that and nothing happened. My objection to ACA is Pelosi statement that led to the passage before there was time for the House to read it fully. To me the ACA was great to those who loved it and didn't care if it cost other people because those others were getting something good and the ones that h**ed it were just wrong and grumpy people that didn’t want was best for everyone.

6.a I could go on and on but it'd take all night to type it up

7.Which of his policies do you like and why?
I like very few things coming from Washington. Washington is taking more and more freedoms of choice away from us and putting more and more power into the hand of the government in Washington. Trump cannot be blamed for that but all those in Washington who have been there for more than three terms in wh**ever office they hold are responsible for the lose to freedoms we are experiencing. If they can keep the American People fighting among themselves over petty things they can remain in Power and then they win. Didn’t v**e for Trump either time. V**ed for Johnson in 2016 and Jorgensen in 2020.
Didn’t care for that stimulus payment either as I thought it wasn’t real money. Pelosi was for it also. When the government prints bogus money they are not charged with counterfeiting but it does run up the funny money available to all of us. Need something to back up our money like gold. Maybe even shell from the ocean like some of the Indian tribes used 200 years ago. Anything at all.

1ProudAmerican

“If I’m elected president, we’re going to act, on day one we’re going to act to get C***D under control, on day one of my presidency I’ll put in action a plan that I’ve been talking about for months, masking, social distancing, testing, tracing, a plans for full and fair and free distribution of therapeutics and v*****es when we get one.”

...and yet today they're crying because T***p w*n't "talk to them about t***sition" and how are they supposed to be on top of things when ( ) they win. Yet they're telling everone they are on top of everything.... I***TS !!!!!

American Vet

***Pulling out of the Climate accord, the planet is doing everything bad climate scientists said it would 30 years ago

"The poorly negotiated Paris climate accord imposed unfair, unworkable and unrealistic targets on the United States for reducing carbon emissions. As the climate deal punished America’s energy producers with expensive and burdensome regulations, it gave other countries U.S. taxpayer-funded subsidies and generous timelines.
Countries like China got a free pass to pollute for over a decade. With abundant low-cost coal, China and India would put our manufacturers at a huge competitive disadvantage. Economic costs would be severe.
According to the National Economic Research Associates, if we met all of our commitments as part of the Paris climate agreement, it would cost the American economy $3 trillion and 6.5 million industrial sector jobs by 2040. We don’t need to cripple our economy to protect our environment.
America’s emissions actually continue to decline, and we are the world’s driver of innovative solutions. Since 2005, the United States has reduced its combustion-related carbon dioxide emissions more than any other nation in the world.
https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2019/11/05/president-trump-leave-bad-paris-agreement-john-barrasso-editorials-debates/4170938002/


***Tax breaks for the rich, now the burden of paying this countries debt in on the middle class.

"Vice President Joe Biden’s campaign website says, “Tax experts estimate that over the long run, 83% of Trump’s tax giveaway will flow to the top 1% of earners in this country.” That’s not quite fair to the president, though. While the Tax Cuts and Jobs Act of 2017 was far from perfect, it did cut taxes on the middle class and fueled the economic growth that brought unemployment rates to half-century lows before the p******c.

The 83% claim comes from a study by the Urban-Brookings Tax Policy Center and refers to rates in 2027, which is after almost all of the TCJA cuts of individual income taxes are slated to expire. A fairer benchmark is what would happen to taxes while the Trump cuts are still in place. In 2025, according to the Tax Policy Center, the top 1% would get 25% of the cut. That’s still a lot, but keep in mind that the top 1% also pay a lot.

After-tax incomes of people in the top 1% are estimated by the Tax Policy Center to rise 2.9% in 2025 vs. a scenario of no change in the tax law. Here are the estimated increases for everyone else: the bottom fifth of households, up 0.4%; second fifth, up 0.9%; middle fifth, up 1.3%; fourth fifth, up 1.4%; and top fifth (which includes the top 1%), up 2.3%. So it’s fair to say that based on the TPC analysis, the tax cut is skewed to the rich, but it’s not as skewed as the Biden campaign one-liner implies.

The Tax Foundation, whose analyses tend to find better results from tax cuts than those of the Tax Policy Center, estimates  the following changes in after-tax incomes in 2025: the bottom fifth of households, up 0.7%; second fifth, up 1%; middle fifth, up 1.3%; fourth fifth, up 1.4%; top fifth, up 1.8%, and top 1%, up 2.1%.  

While it’s hard to separate out the impact of the tax cuts from other forces acting on the economy, a study last year by the Federal Reserve Bank of Dallas (PDF) estimated that the TCJA “likely boosted GDP growth by 0.8 percentage point and job growth by roughly 0.24 percentage point in 2018.”
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-10-27/the-trump-tax-cut-wasn-t-just-for-the-rich


***building a wall on the southern border, waist of money there are much better ways to protect the border drones are much cheaper.

First - I believe a wall is not the ‘end all’ - but a vital part of securing our border.
"President Donald Trump’s promise to build a wall along our Southern border will save countless innocent lives. Our Border Patrol agents have seen firsthand the success of a border wall in Yuma, Ariz. — which serves as a prime example of how investments in personnel, technology and a border wall can turn the tide against a flood of i*****l i*********n and secure our homeland. 
For years, Yuma sector was besieged by chaos as a nearly unending flood of migrants and drugs poured across our border. Even as agents were arresting on average 800 i*****l a***ns a day, we were still unable to stop the thousands of trucks filled with drugs and humans that quickly crossed a vanishing point and dispersed into communities all across the country.https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2017/08/22/homeland-security-secretary-border-walls-work-yuma-sector-proves-it-elaine-duke-column/586853001/


**Separating children from their parents and putting them in cages, cause that just ain't right

Did the Obama administration separate families at the southern U.S. border?

Yes, U.S. border officials did separate children from their parents on occasion
https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2020-10-27/p**********l-immigration-debate-fact-check-and-who-built-the-cages



**Paying farmers billions for his failed tariffs, this will never end that business isn't coming back.
Highly contentious issue - I agree President Trump should have handled this differently.

**Supporting clean coal, these plants are long overdue closing and big polluters plus the coal ash left deal with
Our country needs to take a careful, measured approach to the use of coal in a manner that makes a smooth t***sition without having an extreme impact on our economy.
I believe nuclear power is a better answer.


**No health care plan, he'll try to k**l the ACA and have nothing to replace it.
Health care is a critical issue. I do not believe the ACA is a viable option and was designed to fail.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/taxanalysts/2017/01/12/social-welfare-on-the-cheap-why-obamacare-was-built-to-fail/?sh=5871e04d718b

I have a natural distrust of large government programs: Think government run health care: The efficiency of the postal service and the compassion of the IRS. I believe we can create a health care system that incorporates healthy competition.

**Which of his policies do you like and why?
The only Biden policies I have seen from Biden are his comments about fracking…and he changed his stance several times. He also stated he was going to immediately reverse all of Trumps EO’s (Executive Orders), which I consider pretty dumb: He might want to check and find which work and are good - rather than stop them simply because Trump initiated them.

Auntie Dee

IN OTHER WORDS, you bought into all the PROPAGANDA that the MSM MEDIA was spoon-feeding you EVERYDAY 24/7!

Did you ever, just once, wonder why there was 94% NEGATIVE REPORTING in the news reporting?

Do you always believe EVERYTHING you read or hear on the TV??

Did you even ONCE have the slightest inclination to look into sources that MIGHT have given you a different view or angle on THE PRESIDENT OF YOUR COUNTRY??

Are you just one of those died-in-the-wool Democrats who always v**e the party-line because your grandfather did and your father did & so you NEVER use your own intelligence or curiosity to see the world through another lens? The DNC today is NOT the same party as it was when JFK was around!

I am making the assumption that your are an adult who is capable of processing various thoughts, opinions and views, but I puzzle WHY YOU NEVER HAVE SEEMED to be capable of doing that with President Trump!

SSDD

A v**e for a third party candidate, one that will not likely win in our current bi-party system, is a v**e for the winning party, be it Democrats or Republicans. Trump has a well proven track record of lying on just about everything be it inconsequential or entirely consequential, Biden... Not so much. Now I am not saying Biden is a saint, not even suggesting that he never lies, I wouldn't know. What I am saying is that I am not aware of any such track record of Biden consistently lying about everything.

If on one side you have a KNOWN liar and on the other side you have one that isn't well known for being a liar, one is likely to believe the one not known for constantly lying.

SSDD

Wow, upset that someone makes a generalized plan of action to handle something mostly ignored by previous administration but not at all upset that the previous administration childishly does everything in it's power to sabotage the next administrations ability to make more specific adjustments to their generalized plan of action. No Hyper-partisanship here, you betcha.

EconomistDon

That's interesting.

Biden will be President of ALL the people --- including everyone currently being put on an "Accountability" list for supporting Trump with campaign contributions or supported his administration in any way, people they want to block from meaningful employment, people they want to punish for supporting Trump.

He will put competent people in his cabinet and departments --- like the person he just named to head his v***s response team who said we should close down business for four to six weeks which should help revive the economy --- ???? That's a real head scratcher; it clobbered the economy the first time.

He will base decisions on facts and science --- like listening to college researchers who still say that c*****e c****e is a problem, even though temperatures haven't risen since the peak in 1998. These researchers say wh**ever is necessary to keep the government research dollars flowing.

He wont be calling journalists enemies of the people --- OK, I will give you that one. He won't have to fight with the media because l*****t journalists sing the l*****t tune, and they will hide Biden's mistakes just like they refused to tell the t***h about H****r B***n and Joe's role as the "Big Man" in charge.

Sir, your v**e will have Unintended Consequences for the country.