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Oct 23, 2020 18:39:32   #
Big Kahuna
 
Tiptop789 wrote:
Maybe I've v**ed a few times already? You won't turn me in will you?


V****g for Greta Thunberg is okay with me. You could v**e for her 50 times. Let me tell you though, she is not running for president and Slow Joe thinks he is still running for the Senate. V**e for Joe for the Senate, I won't turn you in.

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Oct 23, 2020 19:10:43   #
Cuda2020
 
straightUp wrote:
It certainly seems that way. Generally speaking, their culture is far more influenced by the religious tradition of believing what you are told and I think that explains a lot. On the left, there are more people who are liberated from that "do as we tell you" tradition and are more inclined to find their own conclusions through a process of discovery.

Unfortunately, being so conditioned by authority, evangelical conservatives are far less capable of recognizing the independence of liberal thought, so they have to insist on superimposing dystopian-style, Marxist conformity for them to make any sense of it.

It's kind of funny but sad at the same time.
It certainly seems that way. Generally speaking, t... (show quote)


Yes I don't know which one surpasses the other, humor or tragedy. I find if the right could let go of their fear and h*****g onto the past we could make some real head way. I think the irony is that we keep trying to save them from themselves and they end up fighting us and supporting those who will eventually hurt them in some form or another, due to them not being for the people. We've hit on this before, but what is the most calamitous is what they're doing to the environment. Now that truly is sad because under Obama, if we had stayed on track we could be making great strides, and they just don't get it.

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Oct 23, 2020 19:13:21   #
TexaCan Loc: Homeward Bound!
 
drlarrygino wrote:
SSDD is a Gestapo boy. He is SS, a bully boy, a totalitarian power hungry nobody that wants desperately to be somebody!!


He and Tippy should be BFFs! 👍

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Oct 23, 2020 19:52:10   #
Big Kahuna
 
Barracuda2020 wrote:
Yes I don't know which one surpasses the other, humor or tragedy. I find if the right could let go of their fear and h*****g onto the past we could make some real head way. I think the irony is that we keep trying to save them from themselves and they end up fighting us and supporting those who will eventually hurt them in some form or another, due to them not being for the people. We've hit on this before, but what is the most calamitous is what they're doing to the environment. Now that truly is sad because under Obama, if we had stayed on track we could be making great strides, and they just don't get it.
Yes I don't know which one surpasses the other, hu... (show quote)


You radicalized l*****ts are "out of control" and need to stop trying to sell us on ovommit. He was the worst president in our history.

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Oct 23, 2020 20:18:59   #
Tiptop789 Loc: State of Denial
 
drlarrygino wrote:
You radicalized l*****ts are "out of control" and need to stop trying to sell us on ovommit. He was the worst president in our history.


Larry, Obama was a good president. Your opinion is not shared by knowledgeable historians. The US wss a better country because of Obama. Trump has us headed in the same direction as other tin pot countries.

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Oct 23, 2020 21:40:31   #
SSDD
 
drlarrygino wrote:
Maybe people like you who deny the t***h should be prosecuted and/or punished.


Beware what you wish for, if ignorance and/or denial of facts or t***h were to become a crime... Let's just say that it may not be the ones you THINK that will be facing justice.

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Oct 23, 2020 21:45:59   #
straightUp Loc: California
 
drlarrygino wrote:
You seem very dense and I really don't have time to review sentence structure with you. Follow the subject, the pronouns that identify who is doing what and you will have a better understanding of the paragraphs meaning.

OK smartypants... Here's your sentence...

"If any supported Trump, I would have thought Trump was one of the turncoats too, but he is not."

So you're trying to write a conditional sentence but conditional sentences only use two clauses and you have three. You actually don't need the third clause because the condition is already implied in the first two clauses making the third one redundant. So, let's lop it off...

"If any supported Trump, I would have thought Trump was one of the turncoats too."

That says the same thing and it cuts your list of subjects from three ("any", "I" and "he") down to two.

You added the word "too" at the end but since you didn't indicate a precedent it really doesn't belong. So, we should lop that off too.

"If any supported Trump, I would have thought Trump was one of the turncoats."

OK, next... Why are you using a quantifier for a subject without specifying what is being qualified? "Any" what?

If any gerbils supported Trump, maybe?

Technically, by using a quantifier by itself as a subject you screwed up the "if" clause and therefore the entire sentence, but I try to read around it. It's what we do when engaging in heated conversations online. I'm just going to assume you meant to say "anyone".

The subject in your second clause is *you* by virtue of the word "I". And what is THAT subject doing? Well, being past tense the better question to ask is, what did the subject do? Oh wait, it's the second clause in a past tense conditional sentence so the real question to ask is, what would the subject have done IF anyone supported Trump. The answer is... The subject would have thought Trump was one of the turncoats.

Here's how your sentence would have looked like if it was written by someone who still remembers how to write.

"If anyone had supported Trump, I would have thought he was one of the turncoats."

Sooo much easier to read and it makes the same point.

Maybe now you can see how the best guess at what you are trying to say is that you are conditioning your perception of Trump on whether or not anyone supported him. Which is pretty much what I said.

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Oct 23, 2020 22:48:57   #
straightUp Loc: California
 
Barracuda2020 wrote:
Yes I don't know which one surpasses the other, humor or tragedy. I find if the right could let go of their fear and h*****g onto the past we could make some real head way. I think the irony is that we keep trying to save them from themselves and they end up fighting us and supporting those who will eventually hurt them in some form or another, due to them not being for the people. We've hit on this before, but what is the most calamitous is what they're doing to the environment. Now that truly is sad because under Obama, if we had stayed on track we could be making great strides, and they just don't get it.
Yes I don't know which one surpasses the other, hu... (show quote)


It is a perplexing problem. It would be easier to save them from themselves if they just stopped v****g but it's their right to v**e so we just have to deal with it. And it's not that I care about them so much that I want to save them from themselves, it's just that what hurts them also hurts me and my family. I'm sure you feel the same way.

Even if they could just remember their own damned priorities from one e******n to another... During the Obama years they were screaming bloody murder about the deficit as if nothing could be any worse. Now that Trump drove the deficit even higher they're like... "what deficit?"

Would that not indicate a tendency to be swayed more by talking points than by any genuine concern or understanding of long standing problems?

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Oct 23, 2020 22:52:55   #
SSDD
 
drlarrygino wrote:
Hypocriticalness is in the dna of your party. You can't get rid of it. That is why you call every one else a hypocrite, to deflect from yourselves.


Interesting perspective you have there, people who have been thoroughly investigated by a very hostile congress with no charges ever brought due to lack of evidence, they are undeniably guilty, Trump with many active investigations placed on hold until after he leaves office is obviously innocent because he hasn't been convicted of anything, well... since he entered office that is.

The funniest or the saddest part, depending on your level of empathy, is that you can't seem to detect just how much hypocrisy that clearly shows, and then you accuse other posters and their party of gross hypocrisy. I think you just snapped the needle off of the "hypocrometer".

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Oct 24, 2020 00:01:15   #
SSDD
 
drlarrygino wrote:
straightUp wrote:
drlarrygino wrote:
I guess that's why ovommit and hitlery were never indicted for their heinous crimes. Ovommit had an a$$ kissing,corrupt, r****t AG in Erik holder and then a boot licking AG corrupt r****t, Loretta lynch. He had a corrupt FBI director in Comey and a corrupt CIA director in Brennan. With corrupt Clapper, ovommut stacked the deck where he would never be prosecuted for his crimes. He even had a loaded corrupt demorat Senate and House for his 1st 2 years in office where he did so much damage to the American people. He even corrupted the IRS and Homeland Security. He had a corrupt VIce presIdent in Slo Joe Bribem. Everything Bathhouse boy Ovommit touched he corrupted.
I guess that's why ovommit and hitlery were never ... (show quote)


uh-huh... First, you say...

drlarrygino wrote:
If Trump was guilty of anything he would have already been indicted and crucified.


Then you say...

drlarrygino wrote:
I guess that's why ovommit and hitlery were never indicted for their heinous crimes.


Sometimes, I don't even need to say anything. You're like a deer that shoots itself.
quote=drlarrygino I guess that's why ovommit and ... (show quote)


You took that sentence out of context. You are a real manipulator, now get started manipulating your "Tooben" your favorite sport.
quote=straightUp quote=drlarrygino I guess that'... (show quote)


Pardon my interesting reply, if you will hit "(show quote)" twice it will look a bit more "normal" and third hit will show ALL text in the Larrywisheshewasadoctor quote.I figured I would clear things up a bit.

drlarrygino wrote:
You seem to forget that every aspect of Trumps life has been put under a microscope and Trump has never been prosecuted. Now as regard to ovommit, the Clintons and Slo joe not one time have they been investigated for all their criminal activity. If they were put through the ringer like Trump was , they would have already been hung!!


drlarrygino wrote:
Comey left Hitlery slide. He said what she did was just a mistake (It was a felony) and she didn't really mean to do it. $crewed the American people by not saying hitlery committed a felony and should be prosecuted.


drlarrygino wrote:
Both of you radicalized l*****ts are out of control and not under control. Perm hasn't posted an accurate post in at least 3 years. If Trump was guilty of anything he would have already been indicted and crucified. Just another bogus bit of bogus information from you guys.


drlarrygino wrote:
I guess that's why ovommit and hitlery were never indicted for their heinous crimes. Ovommit had an a$$ kissing,corrupt, r****t AG in Erik holder and then a boot licking AG corrupt r****t, Loretta lynch. He had a corrupt FBI director in Comey and a corrupt CIA director in Brennan. With corrupt Clapper, ovommut stacked the deck where he would never be prosecuted for his crimes. He even had a loaded corrupt demorat Senate and House for his 1st 2 years in office where he did so much damage to the American people. He even corrupted the IRS and Homeland Security. He had a corrupt VIce presIdent in Slo Joe Bribem. Everything Bathhouse boy Ovommit touched he corrupted.
u b color=blue I guess that's why ovommit and h... (show quote)


drlarrygino wrote:
Hypocriticalness is in the dna of your party. You can't get rid of it. That is why you call every one else a hypocrite, to deflect from yourselves.


All pertinent quotes from the pretend doctor plus one to cause peoples' eyes to roll so hard they may not stop spinning for at least a week. It would indeed appear that the pretend doctor DID in fact make the claim that Trump obviously can't be guilty because he hasn't been prosecuted, many Democrats are guilty regardless of the fact that they HAVE been just as heavily investigated as Trump has been without charges filed. As soon as everyone has stopped scratching their heads wondering about that logic and their eyes stop spinning due to that wicked eye roll, we should all look to see if the pretend doctor has a viable explanation that somehow magically makes his own hypocrisy disappear.

Note: Please pardon my liberties with quote manipulations with the quote reconstruction and the quote coloration to show the differing opinion Hypocrates... Err... I mean Larry has dependent on whether the "hardened criminal" is conservative or liberal. ALL attributed quotes are in their full form, nothing left out, nothing added (other than the aforementioned manipulation to reconstruct a multi-part quote and colorize one that NEEDED colorization) and nothing out of order or in any way out of context.


Okay Hypocrates, explain how StraightUp took your quotes out of context.

*grabs some popcorn for the great contortionist show about to start*

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Oct 24, 2020 09:07:04   #
Cuda2020
 
straightUp wrote:
It is a perplexing problem. It would be easier to save them from themselves if they just stopped v****g but it's their right to v**e so we just have to deal with it. And it's not that I care about them so much that I want to save them from themselves, it's just that what hurts them also hurts me and my family. I'm sure you feel the same way.

Even if they could just remember their own damned priorities from one e******n to another... During the Obama years they were screaming bloody murder about the deficit as if nothing could be any worse. Now that Trump drove the deficit even higher they're like... "what deficit?"

Would that not indicate a tendency to be swayed more by talking points than by any genuine concern or understanding of long standing problems?
It is a perplexing problem. It would be easier to ... (show quote)


A solid point, what deficit...we know when they'll scream about it again, as soon as Joe takes office, well maybe they'll give him a few months, thereby allowing them to declare he's done nothing about it. Yep, that play card is played often, kinda loses its impact by now.

Probably why they also didn't want to approve the next stimulus. I hope they do the next check with a little more financially frugal thought. Let the people who really need it get it and not send out bonus checks to people who haven't lost a thing. Yeah, unfortunately that's happened, to what extent I don't know. No one will bring that up, go figure. Quite frankly I'm amazed after all this time things here in the states aren't much worse and I'm wondering if we're on the edge? Joe is going to have his hands full.

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Oct 24, 2020 09:30:10   #
Cuda2020
 
drlarrygino wrote:
I guess that's why ovommit and hitlery were never indicted for their heinous crimes. Ovommit had an a$$ kissing,corrupt, r****t AG in Erik holder and then a boot licking AG corrupt r****t, Loretta lynch. He had a corrupt FBI director in Comey and a corrupt CIA director in Brennan. With corrupt Clapper, ovommut stacked the deck where he would never be prosecuted for his crimes. He even had a loaded corrupt demorat Senate and House for his 1st 2 years in office where he did so much damage to the American people. He even corrupted the IRS and Homeland Security. He had a corrupt VIce presIdent in Slo Joe Bribem. Everything Bathhouse boy Ovommit touched he corrupted.
I guess that's why ovommit and hitlery were never ... (show quote)


Your perspective I believe is skewed. Comey corrupt, not likely, just the opposite, one of the most dedicated I've seen. Trump was fine with him until he dug up $h*+ about himself. Gee sucked to be him and it's really going to suck once he leaves office. Gotta pay the piper sooner or later.

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Oct 24, 2020 14:24:35   #
straightUp Loc: California
 
Barracuda2020 wrote:
A solid point, what deficit...we know when they'll scream about it again, as soon as Joe takes office, well maybe they'll give him a few months, thereby allowing them to declare he's done nothing about it. Yep, that play card is played often, kinda loses its impact by now.

Probably why they also didn't want to approve the next stimulus. I hope they do the next check with a little more financially frugal thought. Let the people who really need it get it and not send out bonus checks to people who haven't lost a thing. Yeah, unfortunately that's happened, to what extent I don't know. No one will bring that up, go figure. Quite frankly I'm amazed after all this time things here in the states aren't much worse and I'm wondering if we're on the edge?
A solid point, what deficit...we know when they'll... (show quote)

Actually to be fair, McConnell who is refusing to accept either the Pelosi bill OR the Trump bill, did say something about vetting the recipients instead of just issuing checks to everyone. My questions there is how expensive will the vetting process be and how long will it take and will the process be t***sparent so we know we aren't getting screwed?

(Nothing personal but I really don't trust McConnell any further than I could throw him).

Barracuda2020 wrote:

Joe is going to have his hands full.

LOL - I want to call that an understatement. It took Obama his entire first term to pull America out of the mess Bush left us with. I think it will be critical that Joe get a solid staff under him... with people that actually know what they are doing. That means he needs to "drain the swamp" of incompetent loyalists that Trump gathered together.

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Oct 24, 2020 14:46:41   #
moldyoldy
 
straightUp wrote:
LOL - I want to call that an understatement. It took Obama his entire first term to pull America out of the mess Bush left us with. I think it will be critical that Joe get a solid staff under him... with people that actually know what they are doing. That means he needs to "drain the swamp" of incompetent loyalists that Trump gathered together.



They say trump is changing the rules so that his incompetents can not be removed.

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Oct 24, 2020 16:56:05   #
manning5 Loc: Richmond, VA
 
straightUp wrote:
LOL - I want to call that an understatement. It took Obama his entire first term to pull America out of the mess Bush left us with. I think it will be critical that Joe get a solid staff under him... with people that actually know what they are doing. That means he needs to "drain the swamp" of incompetent loyalists that Trump gathered together.





Liberality

"Verbal Verbosity" is a well-known trait of leftwing elitist pseudo-intellectuals, according to Thomas Sowell. The recent posts of SSDD, straightUp and others illustrates this trait perfectly. Their play on the idea of hypocrisy is in itself hypocritical.

Hypocrisy is yet another trait of the l*****t atheistic ilk. Their supposed freedom from religious thought leaves them flapping in the wind with no positive direction in life except negativity, and an inflated sense of their own importance, plus contempt for those who have a real religion as opposed to a non-religious religion-atheism.

These posters also appear to fit the Manifesto copied below:

The Liberal Manifesto

Paraphrased from "The Liberal Mind"--E. Rossiter

1. We are all children of a parental government...
2. Self-reliance and the role of individual responsibility should be diminished in this society in favor of collective caretaking administered by the state.
3. The individual cannot exist without the state.
4. Because most citizens are not competent to run their own lives, they need government guidance to do what is good for them.
5. Collectivism is the proper political philosophy for an ordered society.
6. A good life is a government entitlement owed to each citizen regardless of the nature and quality of his acts and their usefulness to others.
7. In respect to economic and social situations, prior binding contracts or agreements based on tradition may be invalidated by the authority of the government.
8. A large government regulatory apparatus is needed to exercise control over the citizenry and to ensure that social justice is assured.
9. Massive welfare programs that are administered by the state at taxpayer expense are necessary to meet the needs of the disadvantaged.
10. Men should not be held responsible for their bad actions, but rather such actions should be viewed as the collective fault of the society.
11. Traditional ideas about the separateness and sovereignty of the individual are invalid.
12. Material subsidies are to be paid to persons designated by the state based on need, suffering, or ine******y, not on merit or desert.
13. Human nature is highly malleable.
14. Descriptions of how to act and how not to act should not be based on the distilled ethical and moral wisdom of the centuries, but through canons of political correctness or evolved through the creation of alternative lifestyles in a spirit of cultural correctness.
15. Established traditions of decency, courtesy, and sexual repression are unduly restrictive and should be rejected because they support class distinctions that oppose the liberal ideal of social e******y. Pornography is good.
16. Rules governing human interactions that have evolved over centuries deserve no respect. Traditional Judeo-Christian moral and ethical codes such as the Golden Rule must be rewritten to reflect modern ideals of moral relativity and multicultural correctness.
17. E******y before the law is a fiction.
18. An individual who commits a bad act should not be held personally responsible for what he does even if he does it with malicious intent.
19. US foreign policy makers should assume the American imperialism and capitalist exploitation have been major factors in provoking aggressive acts by other nations and by religious or ethnic groups.
20. It is the duty of the state to determine which groups or classes of persons suffer from deficits in material security and in social and political status and to cure these deficits through government action.
21. Time-honored conceptions of justice as reflected in common sense, ethical philosophy, judicial practice and the history of political thought are invalid.
22. Traditional ideal of self-determination, self-responsibility and self-reliance are invalid.
23. Economic activity should be carefully controlled by the government.
24. An adult citizen's time, work effort and ability must be largely apportioned to the state.
25. The primary purpose of politics is the creation of an ideal collective society run by a liberal elite committed to a just redistribution of economic, social and political goods.
26. The traditional social institutions of marriage and family are not very important and should yield to progressive alternative lifestyles that emphasize the satisfaction of sexual and relational needs.

The shoe fits!

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