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Sep 29, 2020 10:49:38   #
EmilyD
 
Wolf counselor wrote:
Great post Emily.


You too!!

...Sometimes words don't work as well...

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Sep 29, 2020 10:51:37   #
Simple Sam Loc: USA
 
Milosia2 wrote:
The NYT has the actual returns!


Then they need to produce them!

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Sep 29, 2020 10:53:25   #
Kevyn
 
permafrost wrote:
No matter what, they will never admit their chosen one is a loser..

What are the biggest takeaways from President Trump's tax documents released just before the 2020 p**********l e******n?
There are a lot to consider. Not in any particular order they include:

He is a terrible businessman. Anyone who consistently loses, hundreds of millions over 30 years and never has enough profit to ever pay taxes is just a poor business guy.
Dont forget 4 bankruptcies and obviously with the $421million that he owes and is coming due, he is an enormous risk as our President.
He is under enormous pressure to get everyone and anyone to use his money losing resorts and golf clubs. Now we know why he goes there constantly, because he is broke and going bankrupt. If the US taxpayer was not bailing him out in dozens of ways, his entire empire would collapse.
I often make remarks about GOLFCART1 (airforce one), little did I know that this is part of his strategy. He probably doesnt even want to play golf, he needs the income from the secret service details, the press that follows and has to pay for overnight accommodations and food at his resorts. This is getting to the point of being silly. The great billionaire Donald Trump is grifting for overnight stays by reporters that he calls f**e news media. Without them paying he would be broke.
Of course there is the amazing $70,000 for his hairdos. This borders on the bizarre. I spend $20 for my haircut and it looks ok, what about everyone else. That is before c***d as I don’t get it cut so much any more around, $150 a year, you know 7 - 8 times max. What in gods name does he have to do to spend $70,000 on his bloody hair?
And then there is no tax paid for 10 out of 15 last years. His $750 he paid in 2016 and again nothing in 2017. This is OBSCENE and I am tired of all of the enablers saying what a great guy he is.
How about Ivanka who was already an ‘employee’ of Trump holdings getting an additional ‘consulting fee’ of $747,000! Are you kidding me? And I refuse to make jokes about what she was doing for the consulting.
Back in the 80’s early 90’s he wrote off over 1.5 billion which meant he paid no taxes for years. Now it is happening again.

Net net - my take away is simple. This is the worst businessman in the history of the world. The only thing he is good at is paying lawyers and accountants to rip off the US government meaning taxpayers. And last but not least yet another $73 million loss that he is trying to take which if he loses, will mean another bankruptcy.

I am beyond embarrassed for the USA. Look around, look at what the world sees. A complete sham of a President who makes a lot of noise but is beholding to every autocrat and every corporation in the world.

I dont care how many judges he gives to Mitch McConnell and the christian evangelicals. I dont care how many guns he passes out to the 2nd amendment advocates. I dont care how many times he says Putin is a great guy and he attacks his own FBI and CIA and everyone else.

What I care about is he is a loser and he is making us into losers.

Dont let him make us into losers for another 4 years. Call his bluff, v**e and v**e him out and walk him out of the oval office into wherever he wants to go and let him battle it out with his $421million he owes to everyone and good riddance.
No matter what, they will never admit their chosen... (show quote)



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Sep 29, 2020 11:08:20   #
1alpha7
 
Milosia2 wrote:
The NYT has the actual returns!


It's illegal for NYT to expose Tax Returns without Permission!

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Sep 29, 2020 11:11:45   #
Simple Sam Loc: USA
 
1alpha7 wrote:
It's illegal for NYT to expose Tax Returns without Permission!


It is also illegal to print lies, but the NYT has repeatedly been sued for spreading lies.

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Sep 29, 2020 11:26:30   #
Seth
 
Simple Sam wrote:
It is also illegal to print lies, but the NYT has repeatedly been sued for spreading lies.


The NYT has gone a long way down since giving up on journalism.

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Sep 29, 2020 11:27:52   #
Tiptop789 Loc: State of Denial
 
Simple Sam wrote:
I believe that most people keep their tax forms a secret, even the most honorable of them. And on the subject of presidents, they take advantage of every loophole, just like every other tax and non tax payer. This started back with Harry Truman when taxes equaled 86.45 percent for income over $200K. His tax forms were never made public. JFK's taxes were never made public, Jimmy Carter kept his secret, and even Obama did not pay his fair share. Keep in mind, there is world of difference between "Personal" and "Business" taxes.
I believe that most people keep their tax forms a ... (show quote)


And tricky dick Nixon $749, trump has good company with Nixon. Also, it wasn't until after tricky dick got caught that presidents started making them public.

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Sep 29, 2020 11:28:55   #
Tiptop789 Loc: State of Denial
 
1alpha7 wrote:
It's illegal for NYT to expose Tax Returns without Permission!


Yes, but apparently not to comment about them

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Sep 29, 2020 11:29:44   #
Tiptop789 Loc: State of Denial
 
Simple Sam wrote:
It is also illegal to print lies, but the NYT has repeatedly been sued for spreading lies.


Listen to trump if you wa examples of lies.

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Sep 29, 2020 11:32:24   #
Seth
 
Tiptop789 wrote:
And tricky dick Nixon $749, trump has good company with Nixon. Also, it wasn't until after tricky dick got caught that presidents started making them public.


Yup, Nixon got caught doing on a smaller scale what Obama did decades later on a major scale, only Nixon paid the price.

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Sep 29, 2020 11:41:48   #
1alpha7
 
Seth wrote:
Yup, Nixon got caught doing on a smaller scale what Obama did decades later on a major scale, only Nixon paid the price.


Our Gov. Officials were/are afraid of the Black Peoples retaliation, so, Obama got away with practically everything... or should I say "everything'.
Obama & the Democrats h**e Trump because he can expose them. Trump's WH is in the process of doing just that and the Dems are creating havoc to slow him down.

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Sep 29, 2020 11:58:04   #
Simple Sam Loc: USA
 
Tiptop789 wrote:
And tricky dick Nixon $749, trump has good company with Nixon. Also, it wasn't until after tricky dick got caught that presidents started making them public.


Do you now want to discuss Nixon? Why not toss in Ford? Individual income tax returns — including those of public figures — are private information, protected by law from unauthorized disclosure. The Internal Revenue Service is barred from releasing any taxpayer information whatsoever, except to authorized agencies and individuals. There are NO laws, only a tradition, making any person's return public domain.

BTW, the NYT is the ONLY outlet that say the have Trump's return. When leaks happen, the mole always provides the documents to other outlets, an insurance policy. Curious, not this time. This means the NYT can say wh**ever they want and NOBODY can differ.

If the have his returns, heads are going to roll at the IRS!

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Sep 29, 2020 12:06:37   #
Seth
 
1alpha7 wrote:
Our Gov. Officials were/are afraid of the Black Peoples retaliation, so, Obama got away with practically everything... or should I say "everything'.
Obama & the Democrats h**e Trump because he can expose them. Trump's WH is in the process of doing just that and the Dems are creating havoc to slow him down.


They've been miscalculating all along, though. They employ tactics that work well against career whores politicians that won't and don't enjoy the same measure of success against a seasoned businessman who thinks several moves ahead.

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Sep 29, 2020 12:09:36   #
1alpha7
 
Seth wrote:
They've been miscalculating all along, though. They employ tactics that work well against career whores politicians that won't and don't enjoy the same measure of success against a seasoned businessman who thinks several moves ahead.


THX! I agree!

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Sep 29, 2020 23:02:26   #
federally indicted mattoid
 
permafrost wrote:
No matter what, they will never admit their chosen one is a loser..

What are the biggest takeaways from President Trump's tax documents released just before the 2020 p**********l e******n?
There are a lot to consider. Not in any particular order they include:

He is a terrible businessman. Anyone who consistently loses, hundreds of millions over 30 years and never has enough profit to ever pay taxes is just a poor business guy.
Dont forget 4 bankruptcies and obviously with the $421million that he owes and is coming due, he is an enormous risk as our President.
He is under enormous pressure to get everyone and anyone to use his money losing resorts and golf clubs. Now we know why he goes there constantly, because he is broke and going bankrupt. If the US taxpayer was not bailing him out in dozens of ways, his entire empire would collapse.
I often make remarks about GOLFCART1 (airforce one), little did I know that this is part of his strategy. He probably doesnt even want to play golf, he needs the income from the secret service details, the press that follows and has to pay for overnight accommodations and food at his resorts. This is getting to the point of being silly. The great billionaire Donald Trump is grifting for overnight stays by reporters that he calls f**e news media. Without them paying he would be broke.
Of course there is the amazing $70,000 for his hairdos. This borders on the bizarre. I spend $20 for my haircut and it looks ok, what about everyone else. That is before c***d as I don’t get it cut so much any more around, $150 a year, you know 7 - 8 times max. What in gods name does he have to do to spend $70,000 on his bloody hair?
And then there is no tax paid for 10 out of 15 last years. His $750 he paid in 2016 and again nothing in 2017. This is OBSCENE and I am tired of all of the enablers saying what a great guy he is.
How about Ivanka who was already an ‘employee’ of Trump holdings getting an additional ‘consulting fee’ of $747,000! Are you kidding me? And I refuse to make jokes about what she was doing for the consulting.
Back in the 80’s early 90’s he wrote off over 1.5 billion which meant he paid no taxes for years. Now it is happening again.

Net net - my take away is simple. This is the worst businessman in the history of the world. The only thing he is good at is paying lawyers and accountants to rip off the US government meaning taxpayers. And last but not least yet another $73 million loss that he is trying to take which if he loses, will mean another bankruptcy.

I am beyond embarrassed for the USA. Look around, look at what the world sees. A complete sham of a President who makes a lot of noise but is beholding to every autocrat and every corporation in the world.

I dont care how many judges he gives to Mitch McConnell and the christian evangelicals. I dont care how many guns he passes out to the 2nd amendment advocates. I dont care how many times he says Putin is a great guy and he attacks his own FBI and CIA and everyone else.

What I care about is he is a loser and he is making us into losers.

Dont let him make us into losers for another 4 years. Call his bluff, v**e and v**e him out and walk him out of the oval office into wherever he wants to go and let him battle it out with his $421million he owes to everyone and good riddance.
No matter what, they will never admit their chosen... (show quote)


Thanks Permafrost. Rational thought is nice to read here but usually in short supply.

The supporters of the sideshow probably don't know how they are damaging the country and how don the con is. They act like ostriches when confronted with all of his administration's mishandling of the p******c and foreign policy. Or worse, they try to make appear a success.

We've lost SO much standing in the world as other countries laugh at our incompetent president.

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