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Oct 1, 2020 12:35:24   #
permafrost Loc: Minnesota
 
Seth wrote:
Amazing, is it not, how graphs, charts and surveys can tell one story while those of us who are out, about and in contact with the very subjects of those graphs, charts and surveys see an entirely different reality?

When every single small and medium sized business owner I know in five or six different states and corporate contacts tell me one thing and some "reports" by people I've never met tell me the opposite, I tend to go with the highly credible people I know in person, whom I trust to deliver information on their own circumstances that I know is not at all politically motivated.
Amazing, is it not, how graphs, charts and surveys... (show quote)



Yes, graphs, like Polls can show all sorts of things.. but with all those available showing the same.. these seem very accurate..

I suppose it is different for me as I live in a strong blue state..

We led the nation in job creation in 2011, I have seen no discernable change in jobs from trump time..

we had more jobs then trained workers a decade ago..

My grand son works in a firm which start up in 2013.. they give good wage and great perks. he has lousy hours but is aiming at his own bis in time.. has a lot of money already invested so hope it works out..

and as you may have read.. he has only a high school equivalency and a GED as well.. but he did finish them at age 17 while he was in Job Corps.. best thing I managed to do for him.. it truly helped him..

sort of amuses me, his girl freind is a college grad and holds a job with the Police which would be one of those moved if the Unfund does go into effect.. she says that would be fine..

she is a strong republican, but I like her a lot anyway.. she is a goodie..

She and the job would be unchanged. only the funding path would differ..

the job is called ?? public something or other officer... darn.. wish I could name it.. sorr.y..

Anyway for now she has an office/desk in the police building wears a badge and uniform.. that would differ if they move the job.. As in no badge, no uniform.. job the same..

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Oct 1, 2020 12:41:39   #
Seth
 
permafrost wrote:
Damn, Seth,, your dad must have h**ed the new deal..

son in law??? you mean the unqualified white house advisor? Matters not,, no one in the white has any qualifications for anything.. living on dads money for a life time hardly counts for anything.. and he has used all of that..


No, those White House advisors are doing just fine, and the son-in-law in question was doing just fine on his own, as well, before becoming an advisor.

My family always worked tenaciously and paid our own way, never sought any help from the government or, for that matter, other individuals. My grandparents' children and their children, including me, were raised to be givers rather than supplicants and that's the way I've always lived.

We didn't subscribe to the doctrine, however, of giving a man a fish rather than teaching him how to fish, which would seem to be the doctrine of today's Democratic Party in order to buy v**es at not only the expense of the taxpayer, but ultimately at the lifelong expense of the recipient of the fish as well.

Fig A: the fish 🐟

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Oct 1, 2020 12:49:05   #
permafrost Loc: Minnesota
 
Seth wrote:
My family were staunch Democrats back in the day, but we were, and most of us who are still around from the "good old days" have always been realists -- that's why we don't v**e for any of today's Democrats, who, like everything else the left touches, have destroyed what was once a viable American political party, just as today's mainstream media has destroyed the journalism trade.

That's the philosophy and the strategy of the dogma you follow: destroy every institution, every moral venue and delete the history of a target country, gradually replace tolerance, under the guise of promoting tolerance, with h**e, then replace everything with their own brand of corruption and totalitarian rule.

Once they have achieved total power in the structure of governance, you'll see all the sugar coating you folks fall for disappear, because they won't need to use honey anymore and will have free reign to bring in the vinegar.

It happens time and again, and no matter how many times it happens, there are always rubes, dupes and dumbjohns in a free society who will welcome the same thing happening to them and their fellow citizens.

No amount of common sense, history or logic will change the minds of the lemmings, you will continue running toward that cliff with the blissful illusion you are doing the right thing, until... "Splat!"
My family were staunch Democrats back in the day, ... (show quote)



have to say, Seth..

the real right wing ideas are not so bad... I once considered myself at least a fiscal conservative.. but upon OPP. I found that in t***h I am far left.. gee would never have thought..

But I will never understand trump supporters.. noting in the trump/republican scheme of things bods well for the Middle class..

The t***sfer of wealth to the very rich goes on and on.. the living standard of the middle class is a struggle even with two people working..

I have no idea what the right thinks is progressing under trump that is good for them.. but they can never list definitive actions..

so I will v**e on Nov 3rd and hope for the best clear down the ticket..

I know you will not change your v**e either so I will simply rant until I am bored with it and then find better things to do..

Just to be clear.. I have tried and can not find a single positive thing to credit the trump administration with.. if fact he is so bad as is McConnel and company that I for the first time in my life actually have concern for the survival of the United States as I have known it for my life time..

Have a nice day.. I have to brave the chill and tidy up the yard...later..

some grandfather with a surprise..
some grandfather with a surprise.....

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Oct 1, 2020 13:05:41   #
Seth
 
permafrost wrote:
have to say, Seth..

the real right wing ideas are not so bad... I once considered myself at least a fiscal conservative.. but upon OPP. I found that in t***h I am far left.. gee would never have thought..

But I will never understand trump supporters.. noting in the trump/republican scheme of things bods well for the Middle class..

The t***sfer of wealth to the very rich goes on and on.. the living standard of the middle class is a struggle even with two people working..

I have no idea what the right thinks is progressing under trump that is good for them.. but they can never list definitive actions..

so I will v**e on Nov 3rd and hope for the best clear down the ticket..

I know you will not change your v**e either so I will simply rant until I am bored with it and then find better things to do..

Just to be clear.. I have tried and can not find a single positive thing to credit the trump administration with.. if fact he is so bad as is McConnel and company that I for the first time in my life actually have concern for the survival of the United States as I have known it for my life time..

Have a nice day.. I have to brave the chill and tidy up the yard...later..
have to say, Seth.. br br the real right wing id... (show quote)


It's like the woman in the paper towel commercial said, "you got something good, you stick with it."

Or, "don't try to fix something that ain't broke."

Our political system has weathered a long line of crises and quagmires, but it has endured by solving them by staying the course set by the founders, not by allowing itself to be "fundamentally t***sformed" by radical interlopers.

The left will not be satisfied with a concession here and a concession there. They will only use each concession as a stepping stone to the next, and that will continue until there is nothing left to concede.

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Oct 1, 2020 18:58:28   #
son of witless
 
roy wrote:
You got that right if trump gets reelected, I for one will not let our country be took over by a dicator.


Donald J. Trump has never tried to be a dictator or dicator. I am curious as to what you will do if the President was to win ?

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Oct 1, 2020 19:10:28   #
Seth
 
son of witless wrote:
Donald J. Trump has never tried to be a dictator or dicator. I am curious as to what you will do if the President was to win ?


He will wait to see the president dicate.

Dication must be a pretty serious thing for a president to do, wh**ever it is.

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Oct 1, 2020 19:20:30   #
son of witless
 
Seth wrote:
He will wait to see the president dicate.

Dication must be a pretty serious thing for a president to do, wh**ever it is.


While Dicator is not a valid word, believe it or not Dication is. " Any cation, of general formula X2+, formed by the removal of two electrons from a neutral species. "


https://www.yourdictionary.com/dication

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Oct 1, 2020 19:30:06   #
Seth
 
son of witless wrote:
While Dicator is not a valid word, believe it or not Dication is. " Any cation, of general formula X2+, formed by the removal of two electrons from a neutral species. "


https://www.yourdictionary.com/dication


"Cation" describing a positively charged ion, according to your link.

Well I'll be...

My takes on that are a) I didn't know Trump was into physics, and b) I wonder how the term was worked into vacation.

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Oct 1, 2020 19:54:42   #
son of witless
 
Seth wrote:
"Cation" describing a positively charged ion, according to your link.

Well I'll be...

My takes on that are a) I didn't know Trump was into physics, and b) I wonder how the term was worked into vacation.


I am concerned that by accusing Donald J. Trump of the crime of dication he is trying to make the case the President Trump is into " the removal of two electrons from a neutral species. " Why would President Trump want two electrons and what is a " neutral species " ? Do they mean g****r neutral species or what ? Just cause they swing that way, they think everybody else does too.

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Oct 1, 2020 20:13:23   #
Seth
 
son of witless wrote:
I am concerned that by accusing Donald J. Trump of the crime of dication he is trying to make the case the President Trump is into " the removal of two electrons from a neutral species. " Why would President Trump want two electrons and what is a " neutral species " ? Do they mean g****r neutral species or what ? Just cause they swing that way, they think everybody else does too.



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