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Sep 24, 2020 22:18:38   #
Seth
 
Tug484 wrote:
I know.
There are several like that one on here.
They'll never change.


If they somehow have their way and we end up a totalitarian state, they will be blaming Trump and conservatives for the loss of liberty and for the misery they'll have helped bring about by supporting the left.

You just can't get through to these useful i***ts, they're like cyborgs programmed by the far left.

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Sep 24, 2020 22:35:05   #
Milosia2 Loc: Cleveland Ohio
 
Seth wrote:
The last thing anybody in our society needs is the perspective of anyone who, using their personal "fame and fortune" as a soapbox from which to expound, wishes to "explain" to us the vagaries of what has proven to be the most successful political experiment in the history of the world.

They generally exclude such facts, even though in doing so they seem to ignore the reality that our system enabled their own success, as the ruination of lives for those their efforts purport to help, and they leave out such important items as human nature and our own societal evolution.

The only "f*****m" in America is that which comes from the left -- using exaggerations and non-existent shortcomings in an effort to propagandize away our freedom of speech, our right to observe the tenets of our religious beliefs, our right to achieve without overbearing government getting in the way, our right to keep the fruits of our achievements and our right to self defense, among others things.

The left is dedicated to forcing its own doctrine down our throats whether we like it or not, and most of that goes contrary to everything America has always stood for.

If you want to find f*****m, you need look no farther than that which you support, no matter what its proponents like to call it. The left is extremely footloose with its false labels, its "adjustments" of history and the sugar coating of its actual agendas when it comes to sneaking up on a free society.

You folks seem to thrive on the "input" of very rich people who want to tell the rest of us how to live when their own circumstances place them out of reach of the price everyone else has to pay.

Your gurus are consistent, though. They never include cause and effect or human nature in their "calculations," and when misery arrives because of this, they never acknowledge it or take responsibility -- instead they tell us how great things worked out and their media stooges back them up.
The last thing anybody in our society needs is the... (show quote)


Severe and profound.

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Sep 24, 2020 22:39:57   #
Milosia2 Loc: Cleveland Ohio
 
son of witless wrote:
" This is largely due to the fact that American public schools have always failed to produce enough qualified engineers to meet the needs of its own industries. "

I blame the liberals who control education in the US of A.


Not the schools fault if Americans can’t pass a math test !!!!
Even the smartest of all can’t pass a math test.

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Sep 24, 2020 22:44:53   #
Milosia2 Loc: Cleveland Ohio
 
Carol Kelly wrote:
We never wanted the hordes that contribute nothing, just use our tax money. We originally wanted people to help in building this Republic and most of us continue to want these people, not people with their hands out.


If trump wins on November 3rd
Your Republic is over with.
Welcome to Somalia!

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Sep 24, 2020 22:46:17   #
Mikeyavelli
 
Milosia2 wrote:
If trump wins on November 3rd
Your Republic is over with.
Welcome to Somalia!


Like this?



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Sep 24, 2020 22:54:35   #
Seth
 
Milosia2 wrote:
Severe and profound.



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Sep 24, 2020 23:02:09   #
Seth
 
Milosia2 wrote:
Not the schools fault if Americans can’t pass a math test !!!!
Even the smartest of all can’t pass a math test.


If today's government run schools did their job and concentrated on teaching "the three R's" instead of indoctrinating children to be "woke," perhaps those math tests would have the same high rate of passing grades as they did when I went to school in the 1960s and early 1970s, or as they do in the charter schools the Democratic Party fights against tooth and nail (not because they give a rodent's derriere about said children, but because they bank a lot of lucre from teacher's unions).

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Sep 24, 2020 23:22:19   #
America 1 Loc: South Miami
 
Milosia2 wrote:
Not the schools fault if Americans can’t pass a math test !!!!
Even the smartest of all can’t pass a math test.


It is every bit the schools fault.
They could at least teach basic math.

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Sep 25, 2020 00:29:31   #
Milosia2 Loc: Cleveland Ohio
 
Seth wrote:
The last thing anybody in our society needs is the perspective of anyone who, using their personal "fame and fortune" as a soapbox from which to expound, wishes to "explain" to us the vagaries of what has proven to be the most successful political experiment in the history of the world.

They generally exclude such facts, even though in doing so they seem to ignore the reality that our system enabled their own success, as the ruination of lives for those their efforts purport to help, and they leave out such important items as human nature and our own societal evolution.

The only "f*****m" in America is that which comes from the left -- using exaggerations and non-existent shortcomings in an effort to propagandize away our freedom of speech, our right to observe the tenets of our religious beliefs, our right to achieve without overbearing government getting in the way, our right to keep the fruits of our achievements and our right to self defense, among others things.

The left is dedicated to forcing its own doctrine down our throats whether we like it or not, and most of that goes contrary to everything America has always stood for.

If you want to find f*****m, you need look no farther than that which you support, no matter what its proponents like to call it. The left is extremely footloose with its false labels, its "adjustments" of history and the sugar coating of its actual agendas when it comes to sneaking up on a free society.

You folks seem to thrive on the "input" of very rich people who want to tell the rest of us how to live when their own circumstances place them out of reach of the price everyone else has to pay.

Your gurus are consistent, though. They never include cause and effect or human nature in their "calculations," and when misery arrives because of this, they never acknowledge it or take responsibility -- instead they tell us how great things worked out and their media stooges back them up.
The last thing anybody in our society needs is the... (show quote)



** The only "f*****m" in America is that which comes from the left -- using exaggerations and non-existent shortcomings in an effort to propagandize away our freedom of speech, our right to observe the tenets of our religious beliefs, our right to achieve without overbearing government getting in the way, our right to keep the fruits of our achievements and our right to self defense, among others things. **
How many times has trump Denigrated the free press? How many times has he chided news media not fox?
How many whitehouse reporters has he dismissed?
Last I know trump is not the left !
Even when trump does this when you see with your own two eyeballs, you blame the Dems.
Why is that?

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Sep 25, 2020 01:12:10   #
America 1 Loc: South Miami
 
Milosia2 wrote:
** The only "f*****m" in America is that which comes from the left -- using exaggerations and non-existent shortcomings in an effort to propagandize away our freedom of speech, our right to observe the tenets of our religious beliefs, our right to achieve without overbearing government getting in the way, our right to keep the fruits of our achievements and our right to self defense, among others things. **
How many times has trump Denigrated the free press? How many times has he chided news media not fox?
How many whitehouse reporters has he dismissed?
Last I know trump is not the left !
Even when trump does this when you see with your own two eyeballs, you blame the Dems.
Why is that?
** The only "f*****m" in America is that... (show quote)


How many, how many, not near enough.

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Sep 25, 2020 02:13:04   #
Seth
 
Milosia2 wrote:
** The only "f*****m" in America is that which comes from the left -- using exaggerations and non-existent shortcomings in an effort to propagandize away our freedom of speech, our right to observe the tenets of our religious beliefs, our right to achieve without overbearing government getting in the way, our right to keep the fruits of our achievements and our right to self defense, among others things. **
How many times has trump Denigrated the free press? How many times has he chided news media not fox?
How many whitehouse reporters has he dismissed?
Last I know trump is not the left !
Even when trump does this when you see with your own two eyeballs, you blame the Dems.
Why is that?
** The only "f*****m" in America is that... (show quote)


FOX doesn't spend their every waking moment attacking Trump, and they don't take everything he says and twist the meaning to make him sound like he meant something entirely different.

FOX reports things as they see them. The mainstream media doesn't like it and neither do the Democrats, so they accuse FOX of partisan reporting.

That's BS. Their editorial broadcasting is their opinion. They save their opinions for their editorial and opinion shows, but they report news accurately.

The mainstream media ignores every bit of corruption by Democrats, they editorialize their "news" to fit Democrat political agendas and they never report anything positive that Trump says, does or accomplishes. They have become the Democrats' propaganda ministry.

You may notice that there are people at FOX who don't like Trump or who at times criticize him -- you'll also notice that they don't lose their jobs. Most MSM venues will not allow anything favorable to Trump to be "reported" or to appear in an OpEd, and there have been people fired or harassed into quitting the NY Times and other "news" companies for violating their never-Trump policy.

What happens as a result is that anyone who depends solely on CNN, MSNBC, the New York Times, Yahoo! "News" and other "progressive" news venues for their news and information walks around in blissful ignorance, having been fed a heavy daily dose of "Trump F*****t," "Trump R****t," "Trump Liar," Trump said this, Trump said that, "Trump evil" and none of it is true. They follow the same propaganda strategy that has served totalitarians well for over a century -- keep repeating the same thing as often as possible in as many places as possible and people will believe it... The BS comes from all different directions, but it all started with one source, knowing it is human nature to believe a lie if it's packaged as something "everybody knows."

People call Trump a r****t, for example, yet they can cannot produce a single piece of evidence that will stand up to his record for exactly the opposite.

The same with all the other accusations and outright slander.

Meanwhile, the real corruption goes ignored. No one in the mainstream media or elsewhere on the left ever expresses the least bit of curiosity about the Bidens' Ukraine and China windfalls or wonders how the Obamas became rich enough to own both a Georgetown mansion and an estate on Martha's Vineyard. The Pelosis, Diane Feinstein, etc.

No one on the left seems at all curious or disturbed over Obama weaponizing federal agencies to spy on Republicans or on then candidate Trump -- when Republican Richard Nixon did the same thing on a much, much smaller scale the mainstream media and the Democrats had a twenty course feast that was known as Watergate. Yet Obama didn't even get a second look when he did much worse.

So yeah, I do see things with my own two eyeballs. I see a l*****t legacy media that blatantly acts as a PR firm for the Democratic Party and as a weapon against President Trump and the GOP.

Try watching a few of Kayleigh McEnany's White House press briefings and pay attention to the brow beating she gets from the MSM as they consistently try to get her to phrase an answer to the same question asked ten different ways in a way they can twist it to mean something other than what it means, or how they never ask any questions on the brefing's topic, but go right on the attack the second she starts asking questions.

As to the reporter whose credentials he temporarily revoked, that SOB doesn't ask questions, he preaches his opinions and lectures McAneny, and rudely tries to dominate the briefing, denying others the opportunity to ask any of their own hardball questions.

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Sep 25, 2020 02:18:50   #
Tug484
 
EmilyD wrote:
Maybe they're all the same person....


Possible.

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Sep 25, 2020 19:30:31   #
son of witless
 
Milosia2 wrote:
Not the schools fault if Americans can’t pass a math test !!!!
Even the smartest of all can’t pass a math test.


Are you honestly going to tell me that when you were growing up and in school you never ran into a bad teacher ? A bad math teacher ? When my kids were in school, our district had a math teacher who everyone knew could not teach, but they could not get rid of him. Fortunately he retired before my kids reached his grade.

My coworker had a son who unfortunately had this guy as a math teacher. His kid was pretty smart, but couldn't learn from this teacher. My coworker finally hired a private tutor so his son could get through the class. When the tutor examined the way the teacher taught he told my friend, " your son's math teacher is an i***t ".

Even my kid in a lower grade brought home long division homework she couldn't do. I had to teach her the way I learned long division, and she got it right away. Then she said, " but he won't let us do it your way. " I told her, " you do it the way I showed you to get the right answer, then write it out your teacher's way. That way your i***t teacher will pass you and he will think he is doing a good job. "

I am not bashing all teachers, just the liberal ones, who can't teach.

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