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Sep 24, 2020 13:00:05   #
America 1 Loc: South Miami
 
Kevyn wrote:
No, that one we all like, the ones that need to be removed from places of honor are of confederates, the defeated t*****rs and enemies of the nation.


Good thing you are not a statue.

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Sep 24, 2020 13:02:27   #
America 1 Loc: South Miami
 
Abbie Hoffman wrote:
I am a liberal who doesn't want Lady Liberty to be taken down. I just want the promise engraved on her to be kept.

And, Lady Proud, my ancestors were already here, in 1619, the year in which the Europeans brought s***es from Africa to our shores.


So, you have been slaving away since 1619.

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Sep 24, 2020 15:50:30   #
straightUp Loc: California
 
rumitoid wrote:
C****-**. We heard it was the best and easiest to catch it here.

We are el Duce fans: actually witnessing a severely marginalized democracy turn blindly to f*****m is historic. A lesson...maybe.

Blatant corruption. An AG and Post Master General in servitude to a president to suppress the v**e and distort justice in his favor, a righteous and needed show of strength. F these minions of Satan Liberals.

{No, no: why your family, everyone listening, originally came to America?}

Hope and promise of a better life. Our representative says to the horde of our shores, Welcome. "Send these, the homeless, tempest-tost to me, I lift my lamp beside the golden door!" But no more under Trump. The Statue of Liberty is just another lady that he assaulted. "Hey, look at the torch of that chick."
C****-**. We heard it was the best and easiest to ... (show quote)


There was a time in America when tired, sick and hungry was in demand because that means they're desperate which makes them easy to exploit. But since then there has been a procession of bitter fights for the rights of workers and a progressive movement that rewarded these fights with new laws that protect the workers to the point of diminishing the advantage of desperate people and boom! The middle-class was born.

But that doesn't mean we don't need immigrants anymore and my answer to your title question provides an example of what I mean.

My family came here in 1963 by invitation. The American aerospace industry was desperately short on talent so they started soliciting engineers and scientists from Europe and my father was one of those engineers.

Americans don't like to admit this but the U.S. aerospace industry during the cold war relied heavily on talent from Europe. This is largely due to the fact that American public schools have always failed to produce enough qualified engineers to meet the needs of its own industries.

A generation later, as a software engineer, I find myself surrounded by talent from China, Russia and India. That's because America still hasn't put anymore priority on education to improve our own supply of engineers and scientists. So, American companies that need STEM talent are still forced to look elsewhere and as a result, most people immigrating here today are in fact better educated than most Americans.

But as you know, these are not the immigrants at the center of Trump's border fiasco. Those immigrants are indeed tired, sick and hungry. Most of them come here for the work. They know there is still a black market demand for desperate people who are willing to work under the table and for many of them that is a better option than starving or being k**led in their home countries.

But unlike the immigrants of the 19th century, these immigrants at the border today are not invited in any official sense because the actual demand for desperate workers is no longer legal. The immigrants keep coming because despite being illegal the demand is still there and as far as they are concerned, food is food.

So this creates the type of tension that politicians can leverage for their own purpose.. And this is what Trump has done. One of the biggest supporters of Trump's policy on the border (and his e******n campaign) is the private prison industry which benefits from the presence of i*****l i*******ts because the federal government pays these prisons based on the number of prisoners detained, which means each immigrant kept in these prisons actually cost the taxpayer more money than if the immigrant was just allowed in so they can find work.

This explains why under Obama, there were more deportations and under Trump there are more arrests. Trump isn't sending immigrants away, he's collecting them in private prisons which BTW, have no legal commitment to justice reform, human rights or the U.S. Constitution.

So I'm going to say the the inscription attached to Statue of Liberty is still valid because there is still a demand for the sick tired and hungry, it's just nothing to be proud of.

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Sep 24, 2020 16:18:49   #
Tug484
 
Milosia2 wrote:
If you’re not an Indigenous Indian you’re an immigrant.
Or just White Trash expelled or seeking refuge from the homeland.


White trash?
You're a piece of work!
What are you?
Trailer trash?
My dad said I am part Indian, so shut up!
I've got too many races in me to be prejudice.
If people studied their geneology, they'd find out they are a mixture of a lot of nationalities, too.

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Sep 24, 2020 16:27:16   #
Seth
 
Tug484 wrote:
White trash?
You're a piece of work!
What are you?
Trailer trash?
My dad said I am part Indian, so shut up!
I've got too many races in me to be prejudice.
If people studied their geneology, they'd find out they are a mixture of a lot of nationalities, too.


No matter what you say, Milosia will disagree with you. He/she/it is simply impervious to the t***h.

https://youtu.be/ohDB5gbtaEQ

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Sep 24, 2020 16:48:00   #
Tug484
 
Seth wrote:
No matter what you say, Milosia will disagree with you. He/she/it is simply impervious to the t***h.

https://youtu.be/ohDB5gbtaEQ


I know.
There are several like that one on here.
They'll never change.

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Sep 24, 2020 17:01:00   #
Carol Kelly
 
rumitoid wrote:
C****-**. We heard it was the best and easiest to catch it here.

We are el Duce fans: actually witnessing a severely marginalized democracy turn blindly to f*****m is historic. A lesson...maybe.

Blatant corruption. An AG and Post Master General in servitude to a president to suppress the v**e and distort justice in his favor, a righteous and needed show of strength. F these minions of Satan Liberals.

{No, no: why your family, everyone listening, originally came to America?}

Hope and promise of a better life. Our representative says to the horde of our shores, Welcome. "Send these, the homeless, tempest-tost to me, I lift my lamp beside the golden door!" But no more under Trump. The Statue of Liberty is just another lady that he assaulted. "Hey, look at the torch of that chick."
C****-**. We heard it was the best and easiest to ... (show quote)


We never wanted the hordes that contribute nothing, just use our tax money. We originally wanted people to help in building this Republic and most of us continue to want these people, not people with their hands out.

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Sep 24, 2020 17:31:10   #
Russian Boris
 
So which one are you?
Don’t consider the others to be “white trash” just because you are.
There other categories of people populate this country and some are even citizens

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Sep 24, 2020 17:46:53   #
Kitten Courageous Loc: The Derelict Ship Maggie's Revenge
 
America 1 wrote:
So, you have been slaving away since 1619.


Native Americans didn't start keeping vital statistics until the 1800s.



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Sep 24, 2020 18:35:13   #
Mikeyavelli
 
rumitoid wrote:
C****-**. We heard it was the best and easiest to catch it here.

We are el Duce fans: actually witnessing a severely marginalized democracy turn blindly to f*****m is historic. A lesson...maybe.

Blatant corruption. An AG and Post Master General in servitude to a president to suppress the v**e and distort justice in his favor, a righteous and needed show of strength. F these minions of Satan Liberals.

{No, no: why your family, everyone listening, originally came to America?}

Hope and promise of a better life. Our representative says to the horde of our shores, Welcome. "Send these, the homeless, tempest-tost to me, I lift my lamp beside the golden door!" But no more under Trump. The Statue of Liberty is just another lady that he assaulted. "Hey, look at the torch of that chick."
C****-**. We heard it was the best and easiest to ... (show quote)


Your leaders came to change it.
My forefathers came to build it.



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Sep 24, 2020 19:28:01   #
son of witless
 
straightUp wrote:
There was a time in America when tired, sick and hungry was in demand because that means they're desperate which makes them easy to exploit. But since then there has been a procession of bitter fights for the rights of workers and a progressive movement that rewarded these fights with new laws that protect the workers to the point of diminishing the advantage of desperate people and boom! The middle-class was born.

But that doesn't mean we don't need immigrants anymore and my answer to your title question provides an example of what I mean.

My family came here in 1963 by invitation. The American aerospace industry was desperately short on talent so they started soliciting engineers and scientists from Europe and my father was one of those engineers.

Americans don't like to admit this but the U.S. aerospace industry during the cold war relied heavily on talent from Europe. This is largely due to the fact that American public schools have always failed to produce enough qualified engineers to meet the needs of its own industries.

A generation later, as a software engineer, I find myself surrounded by talent from China, Russia and India. That's because America still hasn't put anymore priority on education to improve our own supply of engineers and scientists. So, American companies that need STEM talent are still forced to look elsewhere and as a result, most people immigrating here today are in fact better educated than most Americans.

But as you know, these are not the immigrants at the center of Trump's border fiasco. Those immigrants are indeed tired, sick and hungry. Most of them come here for the work. They know there is still a black market demand for desperate people who are willing to work under the table and for many of them that is a better option than starving or being k**led in their home countries.

But unlike the immigrants of the 19th century, these immigrants at the border today are not invited in any official sense because the actual demand for desperate workers is no longer legal. The immigrants keep coming because despite being illegal the demand is still there and as far as they are concerned, food is food.

So this creates the type of tension that politicians can leverage for their own purpose.. And this is what Trump has done. One of the biggest supporters of Trump's policy on the border (and his e******n campaign) is the private prison industry which benefits from the presence of i*****l i*******ts because the federal government pays these prisons based on the number of prisoners detained, which means each immigrant kept in these prisons actually cost the taxpayer more money than if the immigrant was just allowed in so they can find work.

This explains why under Obama, there were more deportations and under Trump there are more arrests. Trump isn't sending immigrants away, he's collecting them in private prisons which BTW, have no legal commitment to justice reform, human rights or the U.S. Constitution.

So I'm going to say the the inscription attached to Statue of Liberty is still valid because there is still a demand for the sick tired and hungry, it's just nothing to be proud of.
There was a time in America when tired, sick and h... (show quote)


" This is largely due to the fact that American public schools have always failed to produce enough qualified engineers to meet the needs of its own industries. "

I blame the liberals who control education in the US of A.

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Sep 24, 2020 20:11:43   #
teabag09
 
Lt. Rob Polans ret. wrote:
I never saw a s***e. I don't think I ever will and that's fine. The whole concept is just wrong. Do I want Lady Liberty to stay? Yes why not? That promise has been met, immigrants have to meet certain standards or they are sent home (too sickly 20%) first try my mom's parents, second they got in.


Lt. I have met a former s***e. It was in 1954 in Jackson Mississippi. My father was stationed there after returning from Korea. We had huge drainage ditches in our back yards and his job was, along with his mule, was to keep his section of ditches clear of debris. He and his mule would come by weekly and I had the fortune of befriending him. I'd tell my mom when I saw him a ways up the ditch and she would make me either two hot dog or two baloney sandwiches and a jar of lemonade to take to him. I was almost 5. He would tell me stories of his up bringing and as hard as that life was he wasn't bitter and was very thankful he was getting a pay check so he could better take care of his mule and family. That was a very different time but it affected me greatly. I am very fortunate to have met that gentle man.

I also got my mouth washed out with soap for calling two friends, I'd just tussled with n****rs, by my mother even though it was a common word used then. Mike

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Sep 24, 2020 20:26:55   #
teabag09
 
Milosia2 wrote:
I you you’ve seen a credit card, you’ve seen a S***e!
If you’ve seen a prison you’ve seen s***es.
The rest are mostly White Trash.
If you’ve seen Jews with numbers tattooed on their arms you’ve seen s***es.


Sweetie, I have 6 credit cards which I use regularly. I pay them off before each due date. I don't over spend them and so I can pay them off. I have one card that is for medical only. That way I have a record of medical for tax purposes. I have one I use for deductions, personal property taxes etc. I have one I use for general use. The other three I use sparingly just to boost my credit score so if GOD forbid I needed money in a hurry I wouldn't have a problem getting it. By the way I have a $100,000.00 home equity loan on standby because of my credit history that I use once a year to keep it open and pay it back the next month so as to not incur interest.

I haven't payed interest on any of the cards or the home equity loan ever and I have a credit score of 830 out of 850. So don't talk to me or others about being s***es, seems to me maybe you're the s***e. Mike

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Sep 24, 2020 21:50:47   #
EmilyD
 
Tug484 wrote:
I know.
There are several like that one on here.
They'll never change.

Maybe they're all the same person....

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Sep 24, 2020 22:05:48   #
America 1 Loc: South Miami
 
Abbie Hoffman wrote:
Native Americans didn't start keeping vital statistics until the 1800s.


I am part Native American, and quite happy and capable taking care of myself.

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