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Sep 7, 2020 13:15:19   #
John Meoff
 
kemmer wrote:
...with all his i***t little followers.




Now who's the name caller?

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Sep 7, 2020 13:44:20   #
Army
 
K turns people in for bad words but look who the Potty Mouth is now. K you should be ashamed yourself .

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Sep 7, 2020 13:46:14   #
Michael Rich Loc: Lapine Oregon
 
Army wrote:
K turns people in for bad words but look who the Potty Mouth is now. K you should be ashamed yourself .


Bona fide losers grasp all the one sided help available.

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Sep 7, 2020 14:00:45   #
Marty 2020 Loc: Banana Republic of Kalifornia
 
JFlorio wrote:
He has governed much more conservatively than I expected. However; to my disappointment he is not a fiscal conservative. Unfortunately, that number can be counted on one hand in D.C..


He’s better than anybody we’ve had in decades.

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Sep 7, 2020 14:29:49   #
Seth
 
John Meoff wrote:
Unfortunately, there are far too many of them. Eighty percent of America's Jews have been in the Democratic camp for decades. NYU, my Alma Mater, was notorious for being a hot bed of radicalism, led all too often by the Jewish students.

Even the Jewish students called it NY Jew. Eighty percent (there's that number again) of the student body was Jewish.

And so many of them played the Holocaust Card that could trump all arguments. It was very disillusioning. I always thought that a Jew who was liberal was akin to being in the Gestapo.
Unfortunately, there are far too many of them. Ei... (show quote)


Speaking as a Jew, I left the Democrats during the Carter Administration and my closest surviving relatives joined me within a year after Obama took office.

Most of the Jews I know who v**e Democrat these days are Reform and Conservative Jews. In New York I knew several Orthodox and Hasidic Jews who are political conservatives.

They belong to communities that don't do a lot of mixing with the less religious but don't sit home on E******n Day, either.

My own observation is that these younger, American born Reform types haven't had much exposure to older relatives who endured the horrors of the Third Reich, the pogroms in eastern Europe that came before or any of the other prime examples of what happens when a people are docile in the face of oppressive government.

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Sep 7, 2020 14:30:55   #
Skiladi21
 
maureenthannon wrote:
Look at what happens to "Socialist" countries: The U.S.S.R (United Soviet Socialist Republic), N**I Germany(National SOCIALIST Workers Party)! In more recent years, look at Cuba or Venezuela. Socialists usually like to: Divide the people, pitting some group against another, gave a Civil War to really tear the country apart; Convince the Common People that they are VICTIMS who need BIG BROTHER to protect them from the rich and powerful people! When a country is torn apart by Civil Wate and Social Unrest, a "SOCIALIST HERO" steps up to rescue the people. The people are tired of fighting, economic ine******y, etc. The Dictator is able to fool the people into buying his garbage, then takes away all their Freedoms, their property, and possessions, and has anyone who won't submit to their rule k**led! THEY USUALLY TARGET YOUNG PEOPLE, because the young ones have no real experience and are easier to manipulate! They attack religion, which Marx defined as "The OPIATE OF THE MASSES" Religious people and groups usually won't submit to a KING! They like to control the Media and the teacher's unions because \"Repeat something enough and the people will believe it"
Look at what happens to "Socialist" coun... (show quote)

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Sep 7, 2020 14:38:45   #
WEBCO
 
saltwind 78 wrote:
maureen, I didn't have to read your post long before I came across some outrageous misstatements.
The USSR was a Marxist c*******t empire led by a totalitarian and murderous dictator. It has nothing in common with the democratic socialists, much less the Democratic Party.
The n**i party was in no way socialist. It named itself the German workers socialist party to attract the German workers. Actually they sought the backing of the German capitalists to gain power. I was a representative of my teachers union, and I can assure you that they certainly don't control the NEA. My NEA chapter actually supported gun ownership. They were not allowed to use the word, " strike " in the representative assembly.
maureen, I didn't have to read your post long befo... (show quote)

So the N**i party of the 30s used the same playbook that todays democratic socialists use.

Tell working people that you are with them, until you are in power, then destroy them.

Use capitalism, the rich, to back you. Then you are owned by the party, do what you are told to do and say or you too are gone.

Use "your" thugs, the brown shirts,B*M and A****a to intimidate people in the streets.

You are correct...I don't see any similarities between social democrats and Marxists.

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Sep 7, 2020 14:47:21   #
kemmer
 
JFlorio wrote:
Says the fool following a demented candidate and a political whore.

For a disciple of Trump, you and yours are pretty free and easy with the word whore, something your exalted leader is very familiar with.

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Sep 7, 2020 15:08:43   #
debeda
 
Big Dolly wrote:
And besides, if Democrats wanted Socialism, then why isn't Bernie Sanders the Democratic candidate, hmm? And if Donald Trump eliminates the payroll tax, then what happens to Social Security?


Payroll tax and FICA taxes are separate. I'm not sure which one the President wants to cut?

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Sep 7, 2020 15:23:22   #
Larry Joe
 
saltwind 78 wrote:
" Socialism is a scare word that they have hurled at every advance the people have made in the last twenty years. Socialism is what they called public power, socialism is what they called Social Security, socialism is what they called farm supports, socialism is what they called bank deposit insurance, socialism is what they called the growth of free and independent labor unions. Socialism is their name for almost anything that helps all the people."

Harry S. Truman, 1952
" Socialism is a scare word that they have hu... (show quote)


So you now have the opportunity to v**e for National Socialism. Congratulations! Personally, I believe in the importance of the individual and a form of government that was created FOR the people, and not a government where the people work for the government.
Larry Joe

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Sep 7, 2020 15:24:15   #
John Meoff
 
Seth wrote:
Speaking as a Jew, I left the Democrats during the Carter Administration and my closest surviving relatives joined me within a year after Obama took office.

Most of the Jews I know who v**e Democrat these days are Reform and Conservative Jews. In New York I knew several Orthodox and Hasidic Jews who are political conservatives.

They belong to communities that don't do a lot of mixing with the less religious but don't sit home on E******n Day, either.

My own observation is that these younger, American born Reform types haven't had much exposure to older relatives who endured the horrors of the Third Reich, the pogroms in eastern Europe that came before or any of the other prime examples of what happens when a people are docile in the face of oppressive government.
Speaking as a Jew, I left the Democrats during the... (show quote)



That's just it Seth. I went to NYU from 62-67. Most Jewish students there were liberal. There were some conservatives, a la Milton Friedman types but not many. It always perplexed me because there had been the horrors of German National Socialism and Soviet Socialism was the most anti-Semitic ideology of the time.

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Sep 7, 2020 15:27:08   #
Larry Joe
 
John Meoff wrote:
Truman was a vile man.


No he wasn’t!
Larry Joe

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Sep 7, 2020 15:28:33   #
debeda
 
Larry Joe wrote:
So you now have the opportunity to v**e for National Socialism. Congratulations! Personally, I believe in the importance of the individual and a form of government that was created FOR the people, and not a government where the people work for the government.
Larry Joe


Well said, Larry

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Sep 7, 2020 15:33:21   #
Lt. Rob Polans ret.
 
saltwind 78 wrote:
" Socialism is a scare word that they have hurled at every advance the people have made in the last twenty years. Socialism is what they called public power, socialism is what they called Social Security, socialism is what they called farm supports, socialism is what they called bank deposit insurance, socialism is what they called the growth of free and independent labor unions. Socialism is their name for almost anything that helps all the people."

Harry S. Truman, 1952
" Socialism is a scare word that they have hu... (show quote)


Propaganda salty and Truman was pretty good with it. Socialism to me is bread lines and working at not what you are qualified for but what the state tells you to work at. Do I seem to be mixing socialism and c*******m? Tha'ts because socialism IS c*******m for slow learners.

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Sep 7, 2020 15:34:53   #
debeda
 
Lt. Rob Polans ret. wrote:
Propaganda salty and Truman was pretty good with it. Socialism to me is bread lines and working at not what you are qualified for but what the state tells you to work at. Do I seem to be mixing socialism and c*******m? Tha's because socialism IS c*******m for slow learners.



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