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Aug 3, 2020 22:28:43   #
rumitoid
 
(I still have no clue as to what "Q" is, but wh**ever.)

Christians today ignore 612 out of 613 Jewish Commandments and their required punishments in the OT, all except homosexuality: this they parade as the Great Sin. Jesus was very clear about divorce, but apparently he did not speak to today's Church. Pastors would not dare to tell their congregations that those divorced and remarried may have disobeyed him. These are, like the Pharisees, the respected leaders of the community. Be realistic! It's a different era. We have united against s***ery and genocide as evil, things approved of in the OT. Jesus' comments on divorce are just as archaic: "But I say unto you, That whosoever shall put away his wife, saving for the cause of fornication, causeth her to commit adultery: and whosoever shall marry her that is divorced committeth adultery." (Matthew5:23) Common cause of divorce in this country: incompatible differences. 86%. Uh-oh!

Any leader of almost any church would not whisper this in their hollowed grounds for fear of losing their tithing, another truly passe idea of the OT, like Sunday Service. There is no more tithing; that has ended. But that's for another time.

Christians wear different fabrics together, have gardens with different produce side by side, and do not stone their children to death for disrespect. That is far, far too primitive, something Muslims would do. Nope. That is the Law of the OT, like the a*********n of homosexuality. But if we read it carefully and within the context of that time, it is not the action of being gay but the abuse by authorities of people for such forced actions. Like a priest and altar boy today. The altar boy is not the a*********n.

Christians are cherry-picking Scriptures, looking for rallying points for poltical ends, to promote their Conservative agenda against the so-called, by them, "minions of Satan Democrats." That is the true enemy. They are looking to abet a secular society and do away with religion. Difficult to say that view is wrong to the fanatics. Zeatots have no nuance and see it as waffling. Thinking people see it as essential to a clear picture. The twain shall never meet.

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Aug 4, 2020 10:05:18   #
Parky60 Loc: People's Republic of Illinois
 
rumitoid wrote:
(I still have no clue as to what "Q" is, but wh**ever.)

Christians today ignore 612 out of 613 Jewish Commandments and their required punishments in the OT, all except homosexuality: this they parade as the Great Sin. Jesus was very clear about divorce, but apparently he did not speak to today's Church. Pastors would not dare to tell their congregations that those divorced and remarried may have disobeyed him. These are, like the Pharisees, the respected leaders of the community. Be realistic! It's a different era. We have united against s***ery and genocide as evil, things approved of in the OT. Jesus' comments on divorce are just as archaic: "But I say unto you, That whosoever shall put away his wife, saving for the cause of fornication, causeth her to commit adultery: and whosoever shall marry her that is divorced committeth adultery." (Matthew5:23) Common cause of divorce in this country: incompatible differences. 86%. Uh-oh!

Any leader of almost any church would not whisper this in their hollowed grounds for fear of losing their tithing, another truly passe idea of the OT, like Sunday Service. There is no more tithing; that has ended. But that's for another time.

Christians wear different fabrics together, have gardens with different produce side by side, and do not stone their children to death for disrespect. That is far, far too primitive, something Muslims would do. Nope. That is the Law of the OT, like the a*********n of homosexuality. But if we read it carefully and within the context of that time, it is not the action of being gay but the abuse by authorities of people for such forced actions. Like a priest and altar boy today. The altar boy is not the a*********n.

Christians are cherry-picking Scriptures, looking for rallying points for poltical ends, to promote their Conservative agenda against the so-called, by them, "minions of Satan Democrats." That is the true enemy. They are looking to abet a secular society and do away with religion. Difficult to say that view is wrong to the fanatics. Zeatots have no nuance and see it as waffling. Thinking people see it as essential to a clear picture. The twain shall never meet.
(I still have no clue as to what "Q" is,... (show quote)

All I have to say Rumi is to repent or "enjoy" your time in hell. Jesus' comments on divorce are just as relevant today as when he spoke them. You're the one who cherry-picks Scripture looking for rallying points for political ends and to promote your demonic agenda.

By the way, the "Q" stands for q***r.

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Aug 4, 2020 10:13:34   #
Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall
 
Parky60 wrote:
All I have to say Rumi is to repent or "enjoy" your time in hell. Jesus' comments on divorce are just as relevant today as when he spoke them. You're the one who cherry-picks Scripture looking for rallying points for political ends and to promote your demonic agenda.

By the way, the "Q" stands for q***r.


Thought the Q stood for Questioning????

Quick question Parky.... If a divorcee remarries, is that adultery? Are they living a life of sin?

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Aug 4, 2020 10:19:17   #
Parky60 Loc: People's Republic of Illinois
 
Canuckus Deploracus wrote:
Thought the Q stood for Questioning????

Quick question Parky.... If a divorcee remarries, is that adultery? Are they living a life of sin?

It depends. Why don't you be a Berean and find out the answer for yourself.

And it doesn't matter whether you're divorced or not...we're ALL sinners.

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Aug 4, 2020 10:22:56   #
Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall
 
Parky60 wrote:
It depends. Why don't you be a Berean and find out the answer for yourself.

And it doesn't matter whether you're divorced or not...we're ALL sinners.


Thanks for the Non answer....

I didn't ask you if divorce was wrong... I asked if remarriage was a sin or not... If I wanted the biblical answer I'd consult the Bible... I'm interested in your answer...

If we're all sinners then I guess being q***r doesn't matter either, right?

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Aug 4, 2020 11:19:18   #
TexaCan Loc: Homeward Bound!
 
rumitoid wrote:
(I still have no clue as to what "Q" is, but wh**ever.)

Christians today ignore 612 out of 613 Jewish Commandments and their required punishments in the OT, all except homosexuality: this they parade as the Great Sin. Jesus was very clear about divorce, but apparently he did not speak to today's Church. Pastors would not dare to tell their congregations that those divorced and remarried may have disobeyed him. These are, like the Pharisees, the respected leaders of the community. Be realistic! It's a different era. We have united against s***ery and genocide as evil, things approved of in the OT. Jesus' comments on divorce are just as archaic: "But I say unto you, That whosoever shall put away his wife, saving for the cause of fornication, causeth her to commit adultery: and whosoever shall marry her that is divorced committeth adultery." (Matthew5:23) Common cause of divorce in this country: incompatible differences. 86%. Uh-oh!

Any leader of almost any church would not whisper this in their hollowed grounds for fear of losing their tithing, another truly passe idea of the OT, like Sunday Service. There is no more tithing; that has ended. But that's for another time.

Christians wear different fabrics together, have gardens with different produce side by side, and do not stone their children to death for disrespect. That is far, far too primitive, something Muslims would do. Nope. That is the Law of the OT, like the a*********n of homosexuality. But if we read it carefully and within the context of that time, it is not the action of being gay but the abuse by authorities of people for such forced actions. Like a priest and altar boy today. The altar boy is not the a*********n.

Christians are cherry-picking Scriptures, looking for rallying points for poltical ends, to promote their Conservative agenda against the so-called, by them, "minions of Satan Democrats." That is the true enemy. They are looking to abet a secular society and do away with religion. Difficult to say that view is wrong to the fanatics. Zeatots have no nuance and see it as waffling. Thinking people see it as essential to a clear picture. The twain shall never meet.
(I still have no clue as to what "Q" is,... (show quote)


How many times have you had this same conversation? Once again.....The law was given to the Jewish people! The birth, death, resurrection of Jesus Christ did away with the law. We are all under grace at this time! To explain this I am using the site, GotQuestions!

What does it mean that Christians are not under the law?

not under the lawaudio
Question: "What does it mean that Christians are not under the law?"

Answer: An exposition of Romans 10:4, which says: "Christ is the end of the law so that there may be righteousness for everyone who believes," will help in understanding what it means that Christians are not under the law. The apostle Paul clarifies the effects of original sin in Romans 2:12, stating, "All who sin apart from the law will perish apart from the law, and all who sin under the law will be judged by the law." All men stand condemned before God, whether they are Jews or not, or to put it another way, whether they have the Law of God or not. Paul also states, "For all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God" (Romans 3:23).

If we are without Christ, we are justly condemned in God’s sight by the Law that was given to His servant Moses. However, we might argue that those who are not Jewish and therefore do not benefit from the knowledge of the Mosaic Law (including the moral and ceremonial laws), should not be condemned in the same way. This is dealt with by the Apostle in Romans 2:14-15, where he states that the Gentiles have the essence of God’s legal requirements already ingrained and so are just as much without excuse.

The Law is the issue that has to be dealt with in order to bring us into a right relationship with God. "Know that a man is not justified by observing the law, but by faith in Jesus Christ. So we, too, have put our faith in Christ Jesus that we may be justified by faith in Christ and not by observing the law, because by observing the law no one will be justified" (Galatians 2:16). This passage reveals that the Law cannot justify or make righteous any man in God’s sight, which is why God sent His Son to completely fulfill the requirements of the Law for all those who would ever believe in Him.

Christ Jesus redeemed us from the curse that has been brought through the law by becoming a curse for us (Galatians 3:13). He substituted Himself in our place and upon the cross took the punishment that is justly ours so that we are no longer under the curse of the Law. In doing so, He fulfilled and upheld the requirements of the Law. This does not mean that Christians are to be lawless, as some advocate today—a teaching called antinomianism. Rather, it means that we are free from the Mosaic Law and instead under the law of Christ, which is to love God with all of our being and to love our neighbors as we love ourselves.

Christ became the end of the Law by virtue of what He did on earth through His sinless life and His sacrifice on the cross. So, the Law no longer has any bearing over us because its demands have been fully met in the Lord Jesus Christ. Faith in Christ who satisfied the righteous demands of the Law restores us into a pleasing relationship with God and keeps us there. No longer under the penalty of the Law, we now live under the law of grace in the love of God.

Recommended Resource: The End of the Law: Mosaic Covenant in Pauline Theology by Jason Meyer

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Aug 4, 2020 17:09:44   #
Parky60 Loc: People's Republic of Illinois
 
Canuckus Deploracus wrote:
Thanks for the Non answer....

I didn't ask you if divorce was wrong... I asked if remarriage was a sin or not... If I wanted the biblical answer I'd consult the Bible... I'm interested in your answer...

If we're all sinners then I guess being q***r doesn't matter either, right?

Sorry canuckus, I've already given you my answer. I repeat...be a Berean. Trust in what God says, not man. The only answer I'll give you is a biblical one because I look at things from a biblical world view.

And being a sinner does not damn you to hell if you are saved. To practice sin does.

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Aug 4, 2020 17:20:33   #
Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON
 
rumitoid wrote:
(I still have no clue as to what "Q" is, but wh**ever.)

Christians today ignore 612 out of 613 Jewish Commandments and their required punishments in the OT, all except homosexuality: this they parade as the Great Sin. Jesus was very clear about divorce, but apparently he did not speak to today's Church. Pastors would not dare to tell their congregations that those divorced and remarried may have disobeyed him. These are, like the Pharisees, the respected leaders of the community. Be realistic! It's a different era. We have united against s***ery and genocide as evil, things approved of in the OT. Jesus' comments on divorce are just as archaic: "But I say unto you, That whosoever shall put away his wife, saving for the cause of fornication, causeth her to commit adultery: and whosoever shall marry her that is divorced committeth adultery." (Matthew5:23) Common cause of divorce in this country: incompatible differences. 86%. Uh-oh!

Any leader of almost any church would not whisper this in their hollowed grounds for fear of losing their tithing, another truly passe idea of the OT, like Sunday Service. There is no more tithing; that has ended. But that's for another time.

Christians wear different fabrics together, have gardens with different produce side by side, and do not stone their children to death for disrespect. That is far, far too primitive, something Muslims would do. Nope. That is the Law of the OT, like the a*********n of homosexuality. But if we read it carefully and within the context of that time, it is not the action of being gay but the abuse by authorities of people for such forced actions. Like a priest and altar boy today. The altar boy is not the a*********n.

Christians are cherry-picking Scriptures, looking for rallying points for poltical ends, to promote their Conservative agenda against the so-called, by them, "minions of Satan Democrats." That is the true enemy. They are looking to abet a secular society and do away with religion. Difficult to say that view is wrong to the fanatics. Zeatots have no nuance and see it as waffling. Thinking people see it as essential to a clear picture. The twain shall never meet.
(I still have no clue as to what "Q" is,... (show quote)
You're saying you don't have a clue what the Christian Faith is all about. If you think you do, then explain what Jesus meant when he said, "Think not that I come to abolish the law and the prophets, I come not to abolish, but to fulfill."

And, using the Bible as a yardstick for another of your rants is blasphemous.

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Aug 4, 2020 19:23:32   #
Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall
 
Parky60 wrote:
Sorry canuckus, I've already given you my answer. I repeat...be a Berean. Trust in what God says, not man. The only answer I'll give you is a biblical one because I look at things from a biblical world view.

And being a sinner does not damn you to hell if you are saved. To practice sin does.


I understand your reluctance to commit to an answer...

Allow me to rephrase my question... If a divorced individual remarries are they practicing sin (adultery)?

I am aware of my answer and what the Bible says... I'm curious as to your understanding...
Your biblical understanding....

FYI: Yup can only be a sinner if you practice sin... I'm sure you are aware of this, and your above statement was simply poorly worded

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Aug 4, 2020 19:24:36   #
Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall
 
TexaCan wrote:
How many times have you had this same conversation? Once again.....The law was given to the Jewish people! The birth, death, resurrection of Jesus Christ did away with the law. We are all under grace at this time! To explain this I am using the site, GotQuestions!

What does it mean that Christians are not under the law?

not under the lawaudio
Question: "What does it mean that Christians are not under the law?"

Answer: An exposition of Romans 10:4, which says: "Christ is the end of the law so that there may be righteousness for everyone who believes," will help in understanding what it means that Christians are not under the law. The apostle Paul clarifies the effects of original sin in Romans 2:12, stating, "All who sin apart from the law will perish apart from the law, and all who sin under the law will be judged by the law." All men stand condemned before God, whether they are Jews or not, or to put it another way, whether they have the Law of God or not. Paul also states, "For all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God" (Romans 3:23).

If we are without Christ, we are justly condemned in God’s sight by the Law that was given to His servant Moses. However, we might argue that those who are not Jewish and therefore do not benefit from the knowledge of the Mosaic Law (including the moral and ceremonial laws), should not be condemned in the same way. This is dealt with by the Apostle in Romans 2:14-15, where he states that the Gentiles have the essence of God’s legal requirements already ingrained and so are just as much without excuse.

The Law is the issue that has to be dealt with in order to bring us into a right relationship with God. "Know that a man is not justified by observing the law, but by faith in Jesus Christ. So we, too, have put our faith in Christ Jesus that we may be justified by faith in Christ and not by observing the law, because by observing the law no one will be justified" (Galatians 2:16). This passage reveals that the Law cannot justify or make righteous any man in God’s sight, which is why God sent His Son to completely fulfill the requirements of the Law for all those who would ever believe in Him.

Christ Jesus redeemed us from the curse that has been brought through the law by becoming a curse for us (Galatians 3:13). He substituted Himself in our place and upon the cross took the punishment that is justly ours so that we are no longer under the curse of the Law. In doing so, He fulfilled and upheld the requirements of the Law. This does not mean that Christians are to be lawless, as some advocate today—a teaching called antinomianism. Rather, it means that we are free from the Mosaic Law and instead under the law of Christ, which is to love God with all of our being and to love our neighbors as we love ourselves.

Christ became the end of the Law by virtue of what He did on earth through His sinless life and His sacrifice on the cross. So, the Law no longer has any bearing over us because its demands have been fully met in the Lord Jesus Christ. Faith in Christ who satisfied the righteous demands of the Law restores us into a pleasing relationship with God and keeps us there. No longer under the penalty of the Law, we now live under the law of grace in the love of God.

Recommended Resource: The End of the Law: Mosaic Covenant in Pauline Theology by Jason Meyer
How many times have you had this same conversation... (show quote)


Apologies.... Where did Jesus say we are no longer under the law?

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Aug 4, 2020 19:46:48   #
Parky60 Loc: People's Republic of Illinois
 
Canuckus Deploracus wrote:
...FYI: Yup can only be a sinner if you practice sin... I'm sure you are aware of this, and your above statement was simply poorly worded

H**e to break it to you canuckus but you can be a sinner and not practice sin.

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Aug 4, 2020 20:05:54   #
Rose42
 
Canuckus Deploracus wrote:
Thanks for the Non answer....

I didn't ask you if divorce was wrong... I asked if remarriage was a sin or not... If I wanted the biblical answer I'd consult the Bible... I'm interested in your answer...

If we're all sinners then I guess being q***r doesn't matter either, right?


The biblical answer is the correct answer. Why would you care about any other answer? Despite what the rumitoid thinks its very clear.

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Aug 4, 2020 20:12:23   #
rumitoid
 
Canuckus Deploracus wrote:
Apologies.... Where did Jesus say we are no longer under the law?


He didn't, Paul did.

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Aug 4, 2020 20:15:01   #
rumitoid
 
Rose42 wrote:
The biblical answer is the correct answer. Why would you care about any other answer? Despite what the rumitoid thinks its very clear.


Lol, more misdirection. That comment was not made to me. Pay attention or stop your duplicity.

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Aug 4, 2020 20:15:13   #
Rose42
 
Blade_Runner wrote:
You're saying you don't have a clue what the Christian Faith is all about. If you think you do, then explain what Jesus meant when he said, "Think not that I come to abolish the law and the prophets, I come not to abolish, but to fulfill."

And, using the Bible as a yardstick for another of your rants is blasphemous.


Thats the t***h but this is his pattern. A mocking of God’s word always follows a string of insults which is followed by a few Rodney King-ish ‘can’t we all just get along posts.

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